Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread WereSpielChequers
Two weeks ago I emailed the fundraising team with the following note, quietly and discretely pointing out an error in their messaging. Sadly I haven't had a reply and I think that in the UK they are still using the £3 buys a coffee for a programmer line: Aside from the incidental nature of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Ed Saperia
Sent from my iPhone On 19 Dec 2014, at 08:44, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Two weeks ago I emailed the fundraising team with the following note, quietly and discretely pointing out an error in their messaging. Sadly I haven't had a reply and I think that in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:44 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Two weeks ago I emailed the fundraising team with the following note, quietly and discretely pointing out an error in their messaging. Sadly I haven't had a reply and I think that in the UK they are still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Rjd0060
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: These objectionable items are all standard advertising practice. No-one should be surprised. Perhaps better is expected of the Foundation that we all support. Many people are surprised - I know I was.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: *Fundraising operating principles* I would like to reiterate my call to see us develop some practical operating principles for fundraising that would give some real-world guidelines for website-banners and emails. Board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
I have to say, I don't see anything remotely objectionable in that email. Bold italicised text on a yellow background might not win any design awards but effective fundraising often doesn't win design awards.* I am not 100% sure how much donors care how soon our fundraiser ends (these days at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Southwood
Are you by any chance American? Cheers, peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Keating Sent: 19 December 2014 01:47 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread David Gerard
Everyone who speaks English is American, particularly the English. On 19 December 2014 at 12:21, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: Are you by any chance American? Cheers, peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
Are you by any chance American? Cheers, peter No, I'm English. :) Chris ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Southwood
I can only assume this is intended as some form of humour, but I don’t get it. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gerard Sent: 19 December 2014 02:25 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
Are you American? On 19 Dec 2014 12:35, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: I can only assume this is intended as some form of humour, but I don’t get it. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Southwood
OK, I was just wondering if acceptance of this form of marketing was an American thing or more generally an English language thing. Obviously not universally acceptable to English speakers, even in USA and England, but possibly more offensive to people with other cultural backgrounds. Cheers,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Southwood
Not even slightly, even though I speak English. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Keating Sent: 19 December 2014 02:41 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread svetlana
Hi, David Gerard wrote: Everyone who speaks English is American, particularly the English. Peter Southwood wrote: I can only assume this is intended as some form of humour, but I don’t get it. This line is a parody. Similarly to Everything that is eatable is an apple, particularly oranges.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: OK, I was just wondering if acceptance of this form of marketing was an American thing or more generally an English language thing. Obviously not universally acceptable to English speakers, even in USA and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
I support the idea that translation also needs to happen between cultures within the same language. I made the example of the Italian because it is my own, but of course there are other English-speaking cultures other the American one, and they would deserve the same attention. Of course it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Peter Southwood wrote: OK, I was just wondering if acceptance of this form of marketing was an American thing or more generally an English language thing. Obviously not universally acceptable to English speakers, even in USA and England, but possibly more offensive to people with other

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Liam Wyatt
There are some valid differences of opinion being expressed about the cultural-linguistic appropriateness of the language used in the fundraising email. But these are tangential to the substantive issue I was attempting to raise. Ideally, Wikimedians should feeling empowered and excited to share

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Andrew Gray
It's now If everyone reading this right now gives £3, our fundraiser will be done within an hour. That's right, the price of a cup of coffee is all we need. So I suppose the take-home message is that WMF fundraising has high estimates of what a coffee costs, rather than their programmers having

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Andrew Gray wrote: (In all seriousness: I generally agree with Liam's concerns, but I'd also like to note that the banners running on mobile are much more discreet, though are just as eye-catching. Well done to whoever thought of those.) When I encountered one of those I had to scroll four

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: It's the end

2014-12-19 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 We have a new office at D.C? :) *Regards,Itzik Edri* Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-12-19 Thread Patricia Pena
Hi Lodewijk, Thanks for letting us know! IDEAL has been back up in the page, but we recently made a few changes that ended up accidentally removing the option from the form. It's all fixed now :) Regarding IBAN: Finance is still working with our bank and we should be sending an update once we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: It's the end

2014-12-19 Thread Pharos
For those unfamiliar with the glories of the United States Postal Service, a P.O. Box is simply a rented mail slot in a public post office. Thanks, Pharos On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: It's the end

2014-12-19 Thread James Alexander
Also: We've actually had the DC Address for a couple years now, it's for a check processing service (Years ago they were processed by hand at the office but that took a lot longer and was no longer the most cost or time efficient way to do it). James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 19/12/2014 00:08, Liam Wyatt a écrit : This email was sent by WMF fundraising today. I'm embarrassed. Read the email first, then I'll tell you why, below. Then what ? I suggest the reasons why the WMF and Sue Gardner did struggle for years against the ability of the chapters to fundraise

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-12-19 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Pats, Thanks. Lodewijk On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Patricia Pena pp...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Lodewijk, Thanks for letting us know! IDEAL has been back up in the page, but we recently made a few changes that ended up accidentally removing the option from the form. It's all fixed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: It's the end

2014-12-19 Thread Brad Courcelles
Perhaps because that is the address they want people to use if they are mailing in a check for a donation? On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Yeah I know. But I still don't understand why we the foundation have P.O. box address at the

[Wikimedia-l] Some bugs in payment form (was: Why is bank transfer no longer possible?)

2014-12-19 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Pats, (offlist) The English form seems to work fine. However, if I am clicking iDEAL in Dutch, it puts the address/name as a required field - while this should not be necessary in iDEAL. Seems like an easy bug to fix. But also when I enter a name etc, it simply returns to the same page,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: It's the end

2014-12-19 Thread James Alexander
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Brad Courcelles courcellesw...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps because that is the address they want people to use if they are mailing in a check for a donation? Obviously not in Fundraising so grain of salt but I think that's exactly the reason. If someone is using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is bank transfer no longer possible?

2014-12-19 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 19/12/2014 08:33, Gerard Meijssen a écrit : Hoi, I blogged about this [1]. By ignoring the rest of the world, they effectively give ownership to the WMF to the USA way of working. On a more practical level, they hand over money for their convenience that is in my opinion an absolute waste. By

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some bugs in payment form (was: Why is bank transfer no longer possible?)

2014-12-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 December 2014 at 21:02, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: (offlist) Nope ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: