Hi Lodewijk, Thanks for letting us know! IDEAL has been back up in the page, but we recently made a few changes that ended up accidentally removing the option from the form. It's all fixed now :)
Regarding IBAN: Finance is still working with our bank and we should be sending an update once we hear from them. Thanks, Pats On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > > Hi Pats, > > Please be aware that iDEAL is still not functional on the Dutch fundraiser > page. Also, IBAN is missing. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > Thanks for telling that the iDEAL will be back soon. I don't quite > > understand from your answer why you add the increased hurdle of emailing > > the team for the IBAN though. Am I overlooking something? > > > > Best, > > Lodewijk > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Patricia Pena <pp...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Lodewijk, > >> > >> Currently IDEAL is temporarily down on our pages (it went into > maintenance > >> mode after our annual campaign), but should be back up soon :) We know > >> the importance of this method for Dutch donors and have supported this > >> option since we started fundraising in the NL. We also support offline > >> bank > >> transfer (IBAN) and donors can get the account number with our Donor > >> Services team. > >> > >> We had an extremely successful Fundraising campaign this year, and there > >> will be some great mobile optimization coming up in the next few months, > >> which will allow mobile donors to complete their donations in a much > >> faster > >> and easier way. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Pats > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > A while back now, the chapters were no longer allowed to fundraise, > >> because > >> > the Wikimedia Foundation argued they would be better able to do this. > At > >> > the time, this sounded somewhat reasonable. However, since then, there > >> have > >> > been some disturbing developments - at least for Dutch donors. > >> > > >> > No longer it is possible to pay electronically (iDEAL, one of the most > >> > common methods is no longer supported - 'electronic banking' simply > >> refers > >> > you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer > >> (using > >> > an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://donate.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:FundraiserLandingPage&country=NL&uselang=en&utm_medium=spontaneous&utm_source=fr-redir&utm_campaign=spontaneous > >> > > > >> > only > >> > allows credit card and paypal, and the 'other ways to give' simply > sends > >> > you to the helpdesk if you want to make a bank transfer payment. > >> > > >> > What is the reasoning behind this? Have bank transfers become a legal > >> > swamp? Are there statistics suggesting that this method was no longer > >> > required by donors? Did the European bank account somehow get > >> temporarily > >> > suspended? > >> > > >> > If it has become so hard to donate, maybe it makes more sense to send > >> the > >> > donors to the local chapter pages where they can actually donate in > the > >> > local suitable methods (in this case, Wikimedia Netherlands offers > both > >> > iDEAL and IBAN > >> > <http://www.wikimedia.nl/pagina/doneren-aan-wikimedia-nederland>). > >> > > >> > One of the Dutch OTRS team members asked for elaboration, but didn't > >> quite > >> > get a satisfying answer. I hope this is a temporary situation, and > that > >> > this threshold will be removed again. It would be sad if we go through > >> all > >> > kind of trouble to enable long tail methods like bitcoin, but skip > bank > >> > transfer... > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > > >> > Lodewijk > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Pats Pena | Sr. Manager, Global Operations > >> Wikimedia Foundation > >> office +1 (415) 839 6885 x6764 > >> cell: +1 (415) 816 3349 > >> fax: +1 (415) 284 9511 > >> pp...@wikimedia.org > >> > >> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in > the > >> sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. 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