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2015-12-03 Thread James Heilman
1) Yes everyone realizes that using a non free image in our fundraising banners is not okay. It was a mistake. These things happen and we correct them. 2) When is it okay to run smaller commercial ads rather than larger fundraising banners? Never. I would much rather see the WMF become smaller

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2015-12-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I rather see the WMF pick up the work that it does not do. Money seems to be a dirty word but it is what makes some things possible. Money is raised by adverts. DEAL WITH IT When people say that they rather see the WMF and its need for money become less, they typically are well served . They

[Wikimedia-l] Product Department Office Hour with Wes Moran, Thursday, 10 December

2015-12-03 Thread Rachel diCerbo
Hi there, The WMF has scheduled an office hour with Wes Moran, VP of Product, for Thursday 10 December, at 20:00 UTC. We can use the time as an informal meet and greet, or ask questions about product process, strategy, and planning. You can participate in #wikimedia-office on Freenode, and logs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Article in the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/12/02/wikipedia-has-a-ton-of-money-so-why-is-it-begging-you-to-donate-yours/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

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2015-12-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Pine W wrote: > Under the redesigned grants scheme, WMF Project grants might be able to > help with this kind of software development work for Commons and/or > Wikisource. I happen to know a developer here in Cascadia who might be >

[Wikimedia-l] A moderator's Pleas

2015-12-03 Thread Richard Ames
All - Please use a new subject line when introducing a new topic. Please start the thread with a new message (not a reply) to wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org More frequent posters: please consider the soft limit of 30 posts per month... see: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Regards,

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2015-12-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > For me Commons and Wikisource could do with an abundant sprinkling of > improved user interface. > Well, of course. But, from where I see it, this is something to be address centrally: Commons and Wikisource

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Jane Darnell
This is exactly why we need "Stuctured Data for Commons" and I for one was really disappointed to see it get tossed onto the back burner yet again: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Archive#Structured_metadata_for_Commons On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gerard

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2015-12-03 Thread Pine W
Under the redesigned grants scheme, WMF Project grants might be able to help with this kind of software development work for Commons and/or Wikisource. I happen to know a developer here in Cascadia who might be interested, either as an individual or in association with a Wikimedia affiliate, in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is that time of year where money is asked from the people. Arguably we would do more when the Wikimedia foundation was not so FF-ing Wikipedia centred.The arguments for not giving Wikisource have passed their sell by date and usability for exposing its wonderful work is imho a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-03 Thread Liam Wyatt
TL;DR - we've reached "peak banner", how do we change the fundraising model to be about working smarter, not just pushing harder. This needs to be part of a broader process that involves strategic planning transparency, endowment discussions, editor-recruitment, etc. Not just about fullscreen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Community consultation on the future of Wikimania

2015-12-03 Thread Ellie Young
Josh, A lot of work has gone into preparing for the consultation.It will be going out December 14. We are looking forward to getting everyone's feedback in the weeks after and into early January. Ellie > On Dec 2, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Josh Lim wrote: > > Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Community consultation on the future of Wikimania

2015-12-03 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Ellie Young wrote: > A lot of work has gone into preparing for the consultation.It will be > going out December 14. We are looking forward to getting everyone's feedback > in the weeks after and into early January. Is there a

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2015-12-03 Thread Lisa Gruwell
We agree with you that WMF fundraising should not use stock photography. This was a mistake by a designer. We specify in our contracts with outside designers that the images used should be custom artwork that WMF owns (and can then share) or freely licensed images. We pulled that banner

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2015-12-03 Thread geni
On 3 December 2015 at 19:29, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > We agree with you that WMF fundraising should not use stock photography. > This was a mistake by a designer. > They made a mistake with a Getty image? >We pulled that banner yesterday >and asked our designers for a new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Rob
Excellent (and prompt) resolution, thank you! We can all put down our pitchforks now. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > We agree with you that WMF fundraising should not use stock photography. > This was a mistake by a designer. We specify in our

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2015-12-03 Thread Rob
I don't think this rises to the level of outrage, but it's a little important. The goal of the WMF should be to promote free and open content, and this adds to the perception that the WMF is disconnected from those goals and the community. I don't care if they use a stock photo if they need to,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk
That is not a small thing. That is an enormous thing. We show people some unfree image while propagating free stuff. Hypocrisy? We are speaking about thousands of people seeing it. It is good that the stuff was removed, but from my point of view that another image with link to an external

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A moderator's Pleas

2015-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Richard Ames wrote: > All - > > Please use a new subject line when introducing a new topic. Please start > the thread with a new message (not a reply) to > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org My apologies. I have no idea how my email became a new

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2015-12-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
"On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > We agree with you that WMF fundraising should not use stock photography. > This was a mistake by a designer. We specify in our contracts with outside > designers that the images used should be custom artwork that WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Rob
I doubt the selection of a single image occupied that much staff time and discussion. No process is perfect. This is a small thing, that was quickly fixed. I doubt a lot of money was wasted here. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:11 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > "On Fri, Dec 4,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread geni
On 3 December 2015 at 23:30, Rob wrote: > > It was a photo of a cup of coffee. It was a mistake that was quickly > acknowledged and corrected. Let's keep things in perspective, please. > It was a Getty image on one of the most high profile sites on the web. Legal doesn't

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2015-12-03 Thread Gnangarra
hold it, back up the truck for a moment If the WMF has a fundraising team and a PR/media team why is it paying a third party to provide the banners surely someone should be able to design them in house, what about someone from the design teams working on other projects. If no one has the skills

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread geni
On 3 December 2015 at 23:29, Gnangarra wrote: > hold it, back up the truck for a moment > > If the WMF has a fundraising team and a PR/media team why is it paying a > third party to provide the banners surely someone should be able to design > them in house, what about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread MZMcBride
Rob wrote: >It was a photo of a cup of coffee. It was a mistake that was quickly >acknowledged and corrected. Let's keep things in perspective, please. Agreed. I'd much rather see focus put on Liam's e-mail about the general fund-raising problem, the current solution to which is deploying

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF November 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, December 3, 19:00 UTC

2015-12-03 Thread Praveena Maharaj
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. -- Forwarded message -- From: Praveena Maharaj Date: Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM Subject: Invitation to WMF November 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, December 3, 19:00 UTC To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner (again)

2015-12-03 Thread rupert THURNER
One feedback I got today is to not display the banner any more if the person donated. On Dec 3, 2015 16:37, "Liam Wyatt" wrote: > TL;DR - we've reached "peak banner", how do we change the fundraising > model to be about working smarter, not just pushing harder. This needs >