[Wikimedia-l] Re: Subject: Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Butch Bustria
I would second Risker's call. Let me rephrase my words earlier. My apologies, I wrote it past midnight in my time zone and I might have been half awake. To put in context, if the concern is addressed to affcom, it should be addressed via an affiliate executive as authorised by their board

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Nathan
It doesn't? Killing threads used to be a regular event. Wild that all of this appears to be over a disputed 100 euro payment. On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 7:41 PM Risker wrote: > I think at this point it is time to take this matter off this mailing > list. I think we have all learned more than we

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Risker
I think at this point it is time to take this matter off this mailing list. I think we have all learned more than we ever expected to know about the Wikimedia Slovakia user group. It is unfortunate that the software doesn't permit locking of threads. Risker/Anne

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Subject: Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Risker
I think at this point it is time to take this matter off this mailing list. I think we have all learned more than we ever expected to know about the Wikimedia Slovakia user group. Risker/Anne ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list --

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Michal Matúšov
Radoslava, I hoped that the next time for me to contribute here I would only slightly correct some small misunderstandings... But with you it is going to be more than slightly... Nevertheless, you have personally addressed me, so... Also, please the next time respect the topic of this thread and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:56 PM Todd Allen wrote: > That "strategy" crap is from WMF, not the communities, and matters not one > bit. > You will not refer to hundreds of other people's hard work as "crap" on this list, Todd. You have been placed on moderation. You are welcome to continue

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Radoslava F. Semanova
Michal, stop those personal attacks. No one lies to you, nor to anyone else. Matej is a good and fair chairman. I am exhausted from watching time and again your unfounded accusations on Matej, me, and whoever you mind. Please, stop it! Radoslava Semanová Vice-chair of Wikimedians Slovakia User

[Wikimedia-l] Subject: Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Matej Grochal
Dear all this is Matej Grochal, chair of Wikimedians of Slovakia and one of the parties in the conflict. I am just coming into the discussion as I was not aware of it from the beginning and was not a member of this mailing list. Let me offer you my input on this matter. About a year ago, Mr

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Enterprise website (was: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise)

2021-10-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear Liam, Correct me if I'm wrong, but your notification two weeks ago, as linked in your post below, did not even include the https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/ URL. All you said was this: The launch of the project’s standalone website, denoting the service as “open for business”, will take

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Todd Allen
You put in a URL that links to one. And there, you're done. Having a "howto" gadget like that is not the purpose of an article. The purpose of an article is to describe, not have a "simulator". A URL to one on some other site in the external links section might be quite in order, but that is out

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Dynamic content on Wikipedia (was: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise)

2021-10-26 Thread Strainu
Pe marți, 26 octombrie 2021, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> a scris: > I think that the WMF has a whole departament devoted to product. They still need to balance between the requests of millions of readers, 70K users and tens of affiliates. > This is not about someone

[Wikimedia-l] Dynamic content on Wikipedia (was: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise)

2021-10-26 Thread Strainu
Changing subject, this is no joke. Pe marți, 26 octombrie 2021, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> a scris: > "Don't assume that just because you can't do something it's impossible or even particularly hard. " > I don't assume it, just we can't do it:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
"Don't assume that just because you can't do something it's impossible or even particularly hard. " I don't assume it, just we can't do it: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169027 or https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238259 If you know a way to do this kind of interactive content in any

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Strainu
Pe marți, 26 octombrie 2021, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> a scris: > Anders: we can't add a physics simulator. We totally can. It takes programming knowledge and a technical administrator, but it's possible. Don't assume that just because you can't do something it's

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Butch Bustria
Hi Michal, We would like to clarify if this communication blast received clearance through an en banc resolution of your committee or entirely your personal decision? If the entire affcom was bypassed or did not explicitly authorise your action, your position will also be at risk. Thanks. Kind

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Anders: we can't add a physics simulator. (https://www.physicsclassroom.com/Physics-Interactives/Newtons-Laws). This is not "info wars", this is being useful. And we can't do it because... well, because we are... obsolete. From: Anders Wennersten Sent:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Francesc Fort
I find interesting what Anders and Galder said. I believe that Galder's complaint (which I agree with) is not incompatible with Anders observation. We can be both obsolete (technology) but yet relevant to society. F. Missatge de Liam Wyatt del dia dt., 26 d’oct. 2021 a les 17:44: > Yes the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Anders Wennersten
We have an army of volunteers to guarantee correctness and that issues of controversies are dealt with in a way that hopefully all parties can accept we have no cookies or technical things that make us follow up on our editors, truly believing in the full integrity of our users our

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Liam Wyatt
Yes the website , and press release , were

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks Anders, "We are the opposite to obsolete" is a good sentence, because this would imply that our platform is the bow of an icebreaker. But we still, in 2021, can't do this things (you can help by expanding this list): * Simultaneous edition * Auto-save in sandbox * Publishing

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Anders Wennersten
"We will have more and more and more millions, but we will still... yes... obsolete." Galder What phenomenon do you see challenge Wikipedias role as a source for common knowledge, an encyklopedia for everyone? I see that for the last 20 years no successful commercial encyclopedia has been

[Wikimedia-l] An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Dear wikimedians, Some years ago, I visited Uzbekistan. I was shocked and amused to find that the largest paper note was 2.000 soʻm at that time, with a plan to start with the 5.000 paper note soon. The most used one still was the 1.000 soʻm note, that was about 35 US cents in the bank and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Manavpreet Kaur's role in AffCom's issues

2021-10-26 Thread Subhashish
I echo SJ's words. This is ad hominem, especially against someone who has been a part of the Wikimedia community much before being a part of WMF, continues to remain a part of her home community in volunteer capacity, and has expanded her volunteerism to contribute to global roles. That, IMO, is a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-26 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Actually, IMHO no matter if elected or appointed - all committees established directly by WMF BoT resolutions are obviously part of the WMF structure. Cheers, wt., 26 paź 2021 o 13:20 Paulo Santos Perneta napisał(a): > (Clarification: They are chosen by AffCom from a pool of self nominated

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
(Clarification: They are chosen by AffCom from a pool of self nominated candidates usually from the communities that make the Wikimedia Movement - but community involvement stops there, AFAIK) P. Paulo Santos Perneta escreveu no dia terça, 26/10/2021 à(s) 12:16: > That (AffCom history) I don't

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
That (AffCom history) I don't know, apart that once they were known as ChapCom. At least since 2017 (and probably well before?) AffCom members are chosen by AffCom itself, and the only entity they answer to is the WMF BoT. Best, Paulo Gnangarra escreveu no dia terça, 26/10/2021 à(s) 12:01: >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-26 Thread Gnangarra
During my time on Wikimedia Australia Committee/board the Affcom members were elected by the Affiliates, though like all committees individuals can be cooped to fill specific needs On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 18:53, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > "Affcom cant be violating this as they are a volunteer

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
"Affcom cant be violating this as they are a volunteer community elected committee." - No, despite the dubious information that AffCom keeps about themselves on their meta page, they are not "elected", and they do not answer to the community 8Wikimedia Movement), as you seem to believe. They are