The rights and wrongs of this dispute aside (and, crikey, I really have not
idea who is in the right at this point), and putting aside the right/wrong
of releasing the email (I tend to side with Erik):
This is the form of language that e.g. men use to dismiss women as
"emotional".
It's vile and
And more to the point; not knowing is a poor defence. Surely any level of
due diligence on new board members would have exposed this troubling
incident?
Tom
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 09:27 Fæ wrote:
> On 9 January 2016 at 09:06, Chris Keating
> wrote:
>
I think the point is that the list owner is deiberately using those tactics
to gain attention :)
Tom
On 11 Jan 2015 13:55, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote:
Would it not be more practical to ask the list owner at Google to kill
his list and create a new one with a new name and to NOT
At a guess; unpleasant snark.
Tom
On 21 Jun 2014 16:49, Tomasz W. Kozłowski twkozlow...@gmail.com wrote:
Earlier today, I used the Gmane.org gateway to send a message to this
mailing list in response to the Iraqi 2014 elections thread started
by GerardM.
Here is the content of my message
I cannot believe I am saying this; but I totally agree with Russavia.
Wil; why not have a go contributing to some WP articles and seeing what
your experience is.
We have a comment statement that gets made on flame threads, which boils
down to isn't there an article you could be writing?
Tom
Child Protection- I'd like to hear about ways that policy might be
changed here to better protect children, especially given some of the
content on Commons. I'd also like to hear about specific examples of
content on Commons that a parent might not find appropriate for their
children. Note
Wil I ask this as a serious, non-snarky question; have you stepped back for
a second and thought about your actions here.
Some responses have been a bit tough. But I don't think you've handled
yourself at all well.
Imagine, for example, I came into your place of work and started asking
Osteopathy is one of those “difficult” ones, where it does have some real
evidence to back it up - but in the UK certain practitioners make exceptional
and (hokum) claims.
The NHS recommends it for Lower Back Pain
(http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Osteopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx, and
Hi Ting,
It's lovely to see such operatic vision! And I for one would love to see
some of those things happen.
But, just to bring it down a bit; the technological issues rear their ugly
heads. Engineering-wise, hosting Wikipedia is a tough problem. Distributing
Wikimedia hosting across the globe
tl;dr: voting creates winners and losers, and losers are unhappy and
disengage.
We see this effect anyway. Correlation does not imply causation. :)
Tom
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I've been watching this unfold over the weekend. And am sorely disapointed
with the rudeness from ALL sides (not from everyone, it should be said)
The action of removing admin access with little warning, and last thing on
a Friday is obnoxious and rude. I'd expect the foundation to review
If you mean publish something on tweeter while browsing a WMF project, I
can't see the point. I'm sure most users know they can have more than one
tab/window at a time.
Weren't you asking for evidence to back up similar assertions a minute ago?
:D
Those said, I don't use Twitter in the
Or, you could click a button.
Why is making something easy a problem?
And more to the point; a very large number of people would become confused
with the processes you're describing. You are somewhere in the top 0.1% of
technically literate persons!! So judging what is possible or not based on
On 18 April 2013 14:39, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote:
Le 2013-04-18 14:42, Thomas Morton a écrit :
Those said, I don't use Twitter in the first place, so I really have no
idea what kind of gap you would like to fill with your feature.
*rolls eyes*
Sorry, I don't
Heh, the CSV's have some amusing, umm. campaign names in them...
Tom
On 1 April 2013 20:42, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.chwrote:
Thanks Marc and Michael!
Am 01.04.2013 21:28, schrieb Marc A. Pelletier:
http://samarium.wikimedia.org/
My understanding is that this was
Not uncommon for Xkcd :p
Although the article being used is changing so rapidly that it's unlikely
to cause much disruption.
On an unrelated note; I can't make head nor tails of some of those csv
files... Are we really collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars daily???
:s
Tom
On Monday,
It's a weird dichotomy.
I've spent several hundred quid on source material for my current topic
area. I could easily have spent several grand.
Paid editing is a major issue, because it conflicts with our culture
But if someone were able to buy my sources then it would be of huge
benefit.
And,
Hi Toni!
Welcome aboard :) look forward to meeting you at some point over the next
few months.
Tom
On 26 March 2013 14:00, Toni Sant toni.s...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Hello!
Some of you may already know me, but I thought it would be good to send out
a message to this list to let everyone
I offered to look into this some time last year, and apply for a grant to
write an up to date piece of software. However it didn't get a good
response, with the foundation promising an OTRS update early this year...
apparent progress was made at that point, but it petered out very quickly.
Tom
I've always considered this poor policy on the part of Wikipedia; a sort of
intellectual grab that we do so well :(
I've uploaded images before by great photographers, after working to obtain
their permission, and make a point of crediting them when inserting the
image into the article - partly
expenses in the U.S., just over two years of the difference between
typical junior software engineer pay at the Wikimedia and Mozilla
foundations is the same amount that the average American who enters
bankruptcy because of medical expenses has in debt.
On 5 January 2013 11:11, Thomas Morton
From a good governance point of view maximum is a bad idea.
This motion would introduce so very poor governance ideas without clear
aims.
Tom
On Monday, December 24, 2012, James Salsman wrote:
Federico,
Thank you for your very helpful reply. I'm sorry, I didn't realize
that Glassdoor.com
On 4 Dec 2012, at 19:09, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote:
That's nice and all, but there should also be no sticking. When I scroll
a page, I expect the -entire page- to scroll. Anything that breaks that and
moves with or sticks with the page is extremely visually distracting
and gets
On 23 October 2012 11:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a Page information
link
in the sidebar (under Toolbox) in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds
And up here in Lincoln.
Tom Morton
On 12 Oct 2012, at 17:23, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Also working for me.
John Vandenberg.
sent from Galaxy Note
On Oct 12, 2012 11:21 PM, Jim Redmond j...@scrubnugget.com wrote:
No trouble here either.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM,
If anyone has a good idea for a name, but lacks to funds or means to pick
it up (and the WMF declines to do so), feel free to get in touch. I am
happy to handle the purchase and later transfer (if it wins!) for you :)
Hopefully that removes that hurdle :D
Tom
On 27 September 2012 13:48,
Of course; if a member of the local Muslim community put on a fake uniform
for the shop in question, and stood outside handing out leaflets about the
better place... that would be a problem.
This is what IB appear to be alleging.
All of these metaphor, however, are very interesting; but not
On 12 September 2012 12:29, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote:
On 12 September 2012 12:27, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:
[...] fortunately courts do not rely on metaphors :)
Tom
Oh they do. That's precisely what case law is. Inaccurate metaphors
On 12 September 2012 12:34, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
*@Tom:* Case law is all about analogous situations so these matter very
much.
The side-suggestion you make is more about tortious deception (I pretend to
be an employee or official representative of someone, or pretend not to
be),
On 11 September 2012 12:16, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 September 2012 09:41, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Reading through it now I have had time, and with my legal cap on..
IB probably have a strong enough case to win some of their claims
Gloating (and throwing insults) is childish, and will not help resolve the
situation.
Tom
On 10 September 2012 12:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Noticed by Keegan Peterzell.
http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Special%3ARecentChangeslimit=500
Turns out you can't
Just to note:
Everyone (including in the recent board statement) seems to be avoiding
mention that this new travel site has come about due to Wiki Travel admins
having an interest in moving away from IB, or that it will be seeded with
Wiki Travel content.
It seems intellectually dishonest to
...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 September 2012 14:53, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Everyone (including in the recent board statement) seems to be avoiding
mention that this new travel site has come about due to Wiki Travel
admins
having an interest in moving away from IB
I see none of the issues raised were really addressed.
Another spam filled, little populated, project then.
*sigh*
Tom
On 23 August 2012 11:53, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
On 22 August 2012 22:39, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
For those interested, a quick
2) The X ray tech who took the image
3) The person / institution who paid to have the image taken
a) The HMO or patient if in the USA
b) The government if in many parts of the world
4) The doctor who ordered the image
5) The doctor who read the image
6) The hospital / shareholders of
One of the key problems with the interface is that it doesn't do a lot to
seperate editing and reading.
I know the point is to make editing easy - and to encourage readers to
become editors. But realistically most of them will not - and we could do
significantly better in streamlining our anon.
On 25 July 2012 21:01, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25 July 2012 20:44, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
One of the key problems with the interface is that it doesn't do a lot to
seperate editing and reading.
I know the point is to make editing easy
On 12 July 2012 10:27, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 July 2012 08:47, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
At the heart of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia projects' success is
democratic action, driven by those who are engaged in the process of
promoting, supporting, and
On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike
against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian).
Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not
much like SOPA/PIPA in that it
On 3 July 2012 12:02, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:15, Svip wrote:
I can't believe _I_ am not the ultimate ruler on what is valuable
enough to get on Wikipedia. It seems most of the delete comments on
the Justin Bieber article are mostly people who
On 4 July 2012 00:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 July 2012 00:48, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
There's nothing that prevents a subject from having an article in both
namespaces. One can be seen as the complement of the other; mainspace
would
become more
Jimmy's platform is Wikipedia.
The media struggle to seperate the two (note the connect back to SOPA
in this case)
Not that I agree entirely with Andreas. But certainly I think the
community could have a view on this.
Tom Morton
On 27 Jun 2012, at 18:01, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
On 27 June 2012 21:25, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 June 2012 18:51, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: And
hell, there really are two points of view about copyright,
I understand you've not really
On 18 June 2012 12:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 June 2012 12:29, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I guess Tom misunderstood my comment. I wrote down a simple plan how an
external solution could work and how to minimize the effort to maintain
it.
On 18 June 2012 12:42, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 June 2012 12:41, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 18 June 2012 12:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
The Board acted according to the Harris report, which just said to do
it on the site itself
It is not convincing since it interferes with the work of our editors
that aren't interested in such a feature.
Seems unlikely. Although please feel to expand on this with specifics.
If we tag images inside the project itself then we impose our judgment
onto it, while ignoring or
On 18 June 2012 15:16, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.comwrote:
Am 18.06.2012 15:06, schrieb Thomas Morton:
It is not convincing since it interferes with the work of our editors
that aren't interested in such a feature.
Seems unlikely. Although please feel to expand
This has been debated numerous times; to what extent does the attribution
have to relate to the exact contribution of each author.
A list of authors has been considered acceptable in the past (including
on-wiki).
Tom
On 12 June 2012 23:48, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
On Mon, Jun
Indeed; and so it was...
{{facepalm}}
Tom
On 11 June 2012 17:32, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
here is one that is worth keeping!
http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Rootstrikers
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike is the terror of
On 17 May 2012 18:19, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San
Francisco office as a Technical Product Analyst, supporting the Visual
Editor team. James started his work as a remote contractor yesterday
and will
On 17 May 2012 18:25, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org wrote:
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Thomas Morton
morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 17 May 2012 18:19, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s my pleasure to announce that James Forrester is joining our San
As a fictional example, let's suppose some members of Congress propose
legislation to build a new Brooklyn Bridge. Under the subject: HR 999
Proposal to build a new Brooklyn Bridge, there would be one pro and one con
argument edited only by members of Congress and one pro and one con
What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective
information
from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would
recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction) because I
thought it overpriced and boring.
Whilst my viewpoint on this
Just to highlight my earlier point about sourcing, the article on Florence
currently says:
Opera was invented in Florence.
This happens to be true - but I have no proof of it, and it may well simply
be the opinion of the original writer. Much of the rest of the historical
section is the same;
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