Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-08 Thread James Salsman
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:04 AM, James Heilman wrote: > IMO we need to work on the issue of undisclosed paid editing from a number > of different sides: > > 1) We need to get the word out to the wider world that paying someone to > write your Wikipedia article is inappropriate. We also need to publ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-08 Thread James Heilman
IMO we need to work on the issue of undisclosed paid editing from a number of different sides: 1) We need to get the word out to the wider world that paying someone to write your Wikipedia article is inappropriate. We also need to publicly state which companies have been banned / blocked from edit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Rogol, Here are a few thoughts: 1. I tend to think that WMF would need to worry about its legal protections if WMF provided grants for content work. I am wondering if there is a way to work around that difficulty by having a separate organization do the fundraising. 2. A separate organization

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Rogol, I'm thinking about your question and several related issues. I want to let you know that I may be silent for a few days, but I do plan to respond. If I haven't responded by next Friday, please remind me. Thank you and have a good weekend. Pine __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-03 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Pine If the objects of the affiliate are compatible with those of the Foundation, then you could ask for a grant. If they are not, why would the Foundation even consider letting you raise funds on their sites. "Rogol" On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Pine W wrote: > I wonder if WMF would be w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-03 Thread Pine W
I wonder if WMF would be willing to let a non-WMF affiliate put up fundraising (which I consider to be another form of advertising, and perhaps some survey respondents did too) banners to get funds for COIN and related backlogs. Perhaps if the fundraising was done by a separate organization, then t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-03 Thread James Salsman
> what proportion of articles at NPP appear paid for? > And what percentage of socks / sock cases relate to paid editing? I would sure like to know this. I would also like to whether the Foundation could, hypothetically, hire editors to address the COIN and related backlogs (AFC, etc.) without en

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Strategy] August 1: Strategy update - Preparing for Wikimania, the strategic direction, and New voices insights (#22)

2017-08-02 Thread James Heilman
I find the slide about whether or not people feel we are "free of advertising" interesting as we only got a 7.3 (with lower scores among younger readers). We unfortunately are not free of advertising.