[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

il Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 4:17 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review Hi, I wanted to bring you a bit of Movement Strategy Forum flair, in case you haven't tasted it yet. Oby_Ezeilo said<https://forum.moveme

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi, I wanted to bring you a bit of Movement Strategy Forum flair, in case you haven't tasted it yet. Oby_Ezeilo said : *I prefer this* 1. *You can

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

I agree with Quim Gil's replies on thiss. I see many positive benefits to the forum websiote that uses Discourse. By the way, I have been editing Wikipedia for over fifteen years. By the way I am mentioning my number of years, only to note my own connection with the community; longevity of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi, thank you for this conversation. It is especially important to hear more opinions from more people. If you are willing but still hesitating to add your perspective, please go ahead and comment here or in the channel you prefer. I will comment on the forum related points later today, but in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Just to change the subject for a short minute: This is a Board of Trustees election. It is supposed to be managed by the Elections Committee , a Board-appointed committee of community members. Their mandate was reviewed

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Let's take the main argument here seriously for a moment: the Wikimedia movement needs a better platform for inclusive, public, multi-language, long-term discussion. We'll especially need this if we expect the Global Council to succeed and live up to our hopes for participation and transparency.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hey all, I find myself mostly in agreement with Gergő. A reluctance to experiment is a problem in this movement which prevents meaningful change. The current state of MediaWiki is such that having discussions on it is very painful. We can do better. However, there've been quite a few different

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

13, 2022 2:51 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 6:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter mailto:ymb...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All, I thought I would just let it go, but I do not think the discussion

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 6:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > Dear All, > > I thought I would just let it go, but I do not think the discussion > currently runs in a good direction. > > I do not think it is useful to advocate that Meta is a good discussion > platform. It is not. It is dead. At best,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

g the front door in another building, with >> another technology, and once they are in we say them that our building is >> the other one, the one that is falling down (but don't visit the basement, >> please, is full of money) is the worst of the strategies. >> >> Best, >

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on't visit the basement, >> please, is full of money) is the worst of the strategies. >> >> Best, >> Galder >> >> --------------- >> >> From: Ciell Wikipedia >> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:03 PM >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l]

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

oney) is the worst of the strategies. > > Best, > Galder > -- > *From:* Ciell Wikipedia > *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:03 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List > *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum > community review >

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the basement, please, is full of money) is the worst of the strategies. Best, Galder From: Ciell Wikipedia Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:03 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review Hi, First: I am

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi, First: I am a big fan of having 'one front door' for people that are trying to find answers to questions they do not know where to ask (last year's movement communications insights on this ). I think a forum,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi Tgr :) Of course you've been involved in Discourse administration as much as anyone. > Our community's hostility to experiments is one of the biggest obstacles > to adaptation and addressing long-present problems > That seems unfair. Please reconsider. (your opinion carries a lot of weight

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi Mike, Yes, on-wiki replies are fine and the organizers of the election will contact you to clarify the details. We will find a fix to the problem of the content license on the forum. Thank you for pointing this out. About features, this is what the election organizers want to try out: * Let

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

No single feature in this off-wiki experiment created in order to make MediaWiki more obsolete cab't be achieved at Meta now. No one. If there's something that should be included in Meta and Discourse has, then I would like to remember that we have more than 100 million USD in a giant money pool

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

On 11/6/22 05:10:51, Quim Gil wrote: For context, the same email gives an option to candidates to answer the questions via email. In this case, the election organizers will post the answers in the forum on their behalf. Answering by email isn't a great solution. I'm hoping to be able to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 2:33 AM Mike Peel wrote: > So I just received this: > > > Thank you all again for submitting your candidatures for the Wikimedia > > Foundation Board of Trustees. The Board Selection Task Force and the > > Elections Committee are excited to inform you about the first

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

So I just received this: > Thank you all again for submitting your candidatures for the Wikimedia > Foundation Board of Trustees. The Board Selection Task Force and the > Elections Committee are excited to inform you about the first community > engagement opportunity of this 2022 Board election

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 12:52 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Even if you don't want mediawiki for various reasons, you can set it up in > Wikimedia Cloud. We already hosted Discourse there for years. > Cloud is 1) not exactly an improvement

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Meta to > discuss about Wikimedia, can also be done perfectly with this extension. > > Thanks > > Galder > -- > *From:* Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 1, 2022 12:01 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List > *Subject:* [Wik

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gs better? A total error. > > I have said this before, but we have plenty of money. We are swimming in a > giant money pool. Our software is obsolete, and every move we make away of > it, makes it even more obsolete, despite having the money to solve it. > > Thanks > > Galder &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

1, 2022 12:01 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review Let's see the "features" Discourse have and MediaWiki don't: * Anyone can join with their Wikimedia account. No registration is required. * This is a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

e Peel Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review Hi again, The proposal for a new forum comes with a problem statement<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Forum/Proposal#Why_a_Movement_Strategy_Forum>, a list of mai

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi again, The proposal for a new forum comes with a problem statement , a list of main features aimed to address this problem, and a set of questions to help everyone find points of tangible discussion

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi Quim Will there be any notion of Single Login in the future (when/if it starts being hosted by WMF) ? Florence Le 31/05/2022 à 23:38, Quim Gil a écrit : Hello everyone, This is an invitation to all Movement Strategy participants and Wikimedians in general to try out a new platform

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/Forum/Proposal From: Mike Peel Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 12:35 AM To: Quim Gil Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review > There is no on-site privacy policy, it just li

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

> There is no on-site privacy policy, it just links to > wikimediafoundation.org ? > > See this pinned topic: > > User privacy considerations in this forum > https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/user-privacy-considerations-in-this-forum/55

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 12:17 AM Mike Peel wrote: > This is not a community review - this is an off-wiki discussion. > Participation is also welcome here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Forum/Proposal > It's a Discourse instance. https://discourse.org

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi Quim, Is this a legitimate WMF website? It is a pre-launch site going through a community review and maintained by the Movement Strategy and Governance team at the Wikimedia Foundation. It seems to have been launched, at least by your email? Trying to trace where this website is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi Mike, On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:55 PM Mike Peel wrote: > Hi, > > Is this a legitimate WMF website? It is a pre-launch site going through a community review and maintained by the Movement Strategy and Governance team at the Wikimedia Foundation. > Trying to trace where this website is >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

Hi, Is this a legitimate WMF website? Trying to trace where this website is being hosted doesn't go very far - the domain seems have its DNS at gandi.net, with the registration via pir.org, and its contact info is at afilias.info? Compare to wikimedia.org that at least says "Registrant