[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Dear Maggie and all, There have been a number of responses from the mainland Chinese media in the past week, and I found myself thinking about the two below, as well as the term "infiltration": https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1234607.shtml

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Update to this: I can't confirm if [3] can be observed or confirmed due to the time between incident and current time, but other factual statements can be backed. On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 at 18:06, William Chan wrote: > Hi, > > 1. I must say that, for those who were desysopped, there are very clear

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello, all. First, Yiufamily, sorry for not defining that term! An "office hour" is an informal chat (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours) - I've been doing these about once a quarter with a twist, as they are video calls that are broadcast afterwards with notes of what was

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

What does "Office Hour" means? and when will it be hosted? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello ytcontact07, Maggie has apologised for the translation in this thread and a better translation has now been provided on meta Wiki ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_actions/September_2021_statement/zh ). The translation concerns have been addressed and I believe they would be more

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello ytcontact07 It is just like evacuating a village before a typhoon hits, or a volcano erupts. It's going to inconvenience a few people but it's better than doing nothing. Some people may not return to the village but the villagers were saved and they'll be ready if it happens again even

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello Maggie, First of all, as others have pointed out, this English-Chinese translation is horrendous. I am pretty certain even Google translate wouldn't contain this much of misused characters. Please revise this translation. Second, you have made some very serious allegations in this

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello, all. I have some responses to your questions posted here and elsewhere that I've just dropped on Meta on the talk page of the statement there . I was asked to concentrate there

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello Maggie, hello all, If you can communicate on the subject, when was your team first made aware of the situation ? Trying to figure out how long this has lasted. And were affected users (by which I mean users who had their emails and passwords reset) ultimately able to recover their

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Or even Affiliates in Taiwan or Hong Kong were a better solution, as some Wikimedia Movement terms are best understood by our own members of the community. Hopefully the Foundation would try to solve the translate issues. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi, 1. I must say that, for those who were desysopped, there are very clear evidence and feelings from Hong Kong editors that the elections that empowered them to the positions they got came from rigged elections with canvassing being observed but never dealt due to acts to deal with them being

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

No idea why it got half of the content, but what I can say, is that they removed emails and reset passwords of user accounts until they "voluntarily" stepped down. This may mean a need to dive into email logs. On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 at 17:43, Yair Rand wrote: > (For those trying to play catch-up

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

(For those trying to play catch-up on the Wikipedia-in-China issue, I recommend diving into some old Signpost archives: [1] ("The BBC looks at Chinese government editing"), [2] ("Interview: Carl Miller on Wikipedia Wars"), [3] ("Community View: Observations from the mainland"), [4] ("Special

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Andres, I am not Maggie (definitely here) but as far as I know, some members from the zhwp are also affected. If I am correct, it is their email being removed and password got reset. William On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 16:45, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Hi Maggie, > > Thanks for your post; I have

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi, again. I just realized I failed to answer one of the questions. I'm sorry; it's rather late in my day, and I didn't mean to overlook it. In addition to what was noted earlier, I believe it was 12 other users who were contacted and asked to adjust their behavior to work within community

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello, all. First, our apologies for the translation. We had hoped to provide this service to make it easier for our Chinese language communities, but clearly it didn't work out as we had hoped. I'm enormously grateful to say that a Chinese translation is now available on Meta:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Thank you Maggie, for the announcement. It's a sad day, and I'm sure there were many sad actions that resulted in this. Two questions from my end: * Could you commit to making a better translation available (through community processes or otherwise) for the record? I think this decision may be

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Leo, I think that this is a Google Translation product. But yes, it is in such bad shape where even Chinese natives can barely read. But I acknowledge the fact that the urgency and secrecy of the matter made consulting external parties, to the extent, even contractors working for WMF,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Maggie, Thanks for the prompt response. I do not know who those ‘native speakers’ are, perhaps that’s just a way to avoid providing language proficiency certificate. I do not know. Google translation might even do better. I am more than certain that this translation is not just faulty or

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hello, all. A few responses. First, Nathan and William, we will share as much information as we can, but will need to be careful about what we say about the individuals involved for legal and safety reasons. This is indeed related to increasing resilience across Wikipedias and not at all

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Maggie, I’m not sure which translation service you’ve retained. This is a grossly unprofessional and barely intelligible Chinese translation. In the very least, I’m pretty sure there are plenty undergrads at Berkeley who you can pay minimum wage with that would do so much better than this.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Maggie and William, thanks a lot for the answers. Best Yaroslav On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 6:45 PM Nathan wrote: > Maggie, > > Thank you for taking these very difficult actions to protect both the > members of our community as well as the values that it seeks to uphold. I > also appreciate the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Maggie, Thank you for taking these very difficult actions to protect both the members of our community as well as the values that it seeks to uphold. I also appreciate the degree of transparency provided and hope that more information will be disclosed as it is appropriate. I imagine questions

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Maggie, May I ask if the action is a part of a wider effort to improve community resilience (not only at zhwp, but across multiple projects)? Regards, William Chan On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 00:39, Maggie Dennis wrote: > Hi, Yaroslav. > > No, not all admins residing on the mainland have been

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi, Yaroslav. No, not all admins residing on the mainland have been desysopped, only those whose involvement with the group in question have raised significant concerns about community election processes and whose behavior has been problematic in relation largely to canvassing or demonstrated

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Yaroslav, No, not all had been desysopped. Regards, William Chan On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 00:28, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > Hi Maggie, > > thanks for sharing. I think this is indeed very important. > > Just to understand this better - have all administrators on all projects > who reside in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

Hi Maggie, thanks for sharing. I think this is indeed very important. Just to understand this better - have all administrators on all projects who reside in the Mainland China been desysopped? If this is the case, is there a policy that no user residing in the Mainland China can become