Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-29 Thread Gnangarra
Given the application got 100% of what was requested There would be more value in duplicating the event by flying the speakers in to another location(ie SE Asia, South America) rather than which give a more diverse demographic of people having access the information. We saw this in the value of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-29 Thread Gergő Tisza
Making a bunch of unsupported and mostly unrelated accusations of bad faith is usually not a great way of raising support for your grant request. Long rants about how more money would be needed without even a hint of what that money would be used for are also unhelpful. I recommend letting this thr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-29 Thread Craig Franklin
I'm afraid I don't really see the logic in this. Even if we assume for a moment that the WMF is sitting on top of an enormous, inexhaustible pile of cash, it doesn't make sense that it should just splash that money around on community initiatives without carefully assessing whether it is the best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread John
David Cuenca Tudela, Looking at the proposed grant you only asked for 36000, you get that, then you decided that the WMF is being greedy and you now want more money. If you need 72,000 should not your initial request realized that and adjusted the requesting amount accordingly? I will also note th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hola Ivan, Así es, la idea es que la WMF pague las becas de viaje para la gente que no se lo puede permitir, y el resto de la conferencia lo pagaría la WMDE. En este caso la cantidad para la bolsa de viaje me parece demasiada baja para hacer que este evento (la primera vez que se realiza) funcion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dariusz, What is the point of spending the funds frugally if our mission is not accomplished? Why do we need to compare an event of this magnitude to a small chapter? The money is there to be used, not to sit on top of it without knowing what to do with it. If the WMF doesn't know what to do with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Natacha Rault
no comprendo! > Le 28 juin 2017 à 20:09, Ivan Martínez a écrit : > > Hola David. > > Hasta donde entendí está escrito en la subvención solicitada un total de 36 > 000 euros, y el resto iba a ser cubierto por fondos que provienen de WMDE. > ¿No es así?. Como voluntario del Comité de Subvenciones

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Ivan Martínez
Hola David. Hasta donde entendí está escrito en la subvención solicitada un total de 36 000 euros, y el resto iba a ser cubierto por fondos que provienen de WMDE. ¿No es así?. Como voluntario del Comité de Subvenciones a Conferencias, quedo pendiente y en consideración de tú comentario. Saludos,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi David, On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has > started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to > cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was > 3

[Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hello, Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was 36,000 EUR, but in my opinion that should be at least 72,000 EUR. I have t