James,
I believe they were talking about the cloning/death star discussion. Not
everything is about you, mate.
In regards to the relative merits of the candidates, it would be grossly
unprofessional for Erik, Jan-Bart, or anyone else to publicly discuss the
relative merits of people who may or
Actually, as Erik Zachte, I am unhappy when someone like Ting makes a
serious proposal on this list and then the thread is used for mockery
on the subject. For mockery, strange comparisons etc., one is welcome
to open an new thread...
Kind regards
Ziko
Me too. Wikipedia is what it is through the community, and a CEO well
respected in the community who, over the years proved to have handled many
situations with care, and involving the relevant stakeholders is, at least
imo, the best what can happen to the wmf.
Rupert.
Am 30.01.2014 16:56
Craig Franklin wrote:
...
it would be grossly unprofessional for Erik, Jan-Bart, or anyone else
to publicly discuss the relative merits of people who may or may not
be involved in a confidential hiring process
No, the Board resolved to consult the community as necessary to
assist with
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:55 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
We should be discussing the merits of individual candidates in the open.
No... we should not. That would greatly hamper the board's ability to get
good candidates. Most people who are already in a current job are not
On 31 January 2014 12:55, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
Craig Franklin wrote:
...
it would be grossly unprofessional for Erik, Jan-Bart, or anyone else
to publicly discuss the relative merits of people who may or may not
be involved in a confidential hiring process
No, the
On 30 January 2014 11:22, Steve Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote:
Funnily enough the cost of doing so has been looked into:
http://news.com.au/technology/lehigh-university-figure-out-how-much-it-costs-to-build-death-star/story-e6frfro0-1226275852491
In short, $8,100,000,000,000,000 and would
On 01/30/2014 02:22 AM, Steve Zhang wrote:
Funnily enough the cost of doing so has been looked into:
http://news.com.au/technology/lehigh-university-figure-out-how-much-it-costs-to-build-death-star/story-e6frfro0-1226275852491
In short, $8,100,000,000,000,000 and would take about 800,000
... try to clone Sue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_Futurama_characters#Cubert_Farnsworth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_(2009_film)
Could the WMF strategy extend to creating a Death Star
to preserve all of human knowledge?
If Sue and Leonie Haimson were mutual
I find it kind of sad to see how this thread after Ting reopened it (surely
after careful consideration) morphed into frivolity. So let me say I deeply
respect Ting's choice to reapply, and to do so, very on-topic, in the open.
That takes courage. I personally think Ting would be a great CEO.
I absolut agree with all Erik said.
Steffen
2014-01-30 Erik Zachte ezac...@wikimedia.org:
I find it kind of sad to see how this thread after Ting reopened it
(surely after careful consideration) morphed into frivolity. So let me say
I deeply respect Ting's choice to reapply, and to do so,
+1
Thank you Erik.
A serious remark on the clone discussion: Instead of trying to copy a
status quo I strongly suggest to move on and embrace the idea of
something or someone new: change is not always easy - sometimes even
scary - but change is inevtiable, necessary and good.
Am
My suggestion of Leonie Haimson as co-director was most certainly not
frivolous, and concern trolling on comments made in the spirit of fun
to try to sideline consideration of her is offensive.
Erik and others, what has Ting accomplished that would make him a
better Director or Co-director than a
Hello dear all, hello Transition Team, hello dear board,
I am still willing to take the challenge.
Looking into the description of the search criteria:
citeKey to the success of the Executive Director will be a commitment
to understand and advance Wikimedia's core values./cite
- In many
Part of me still thinks we'd be better off and it would be easier to try
clone Sue rather than trying to find a suitable replacement for her...
On 29/01/2014 7:03 PM, Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote:
Hello dear all, hello Transition Team, hello dear board,
I am still willing to take the
On 29 January 2014 12:21, Steve Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote:
Part of me still thinks we'd be better off and it would be easier to try
clone Sue rather than trying to find a suitable replacement for her...
Hm, clone armies. Could the WMF strategy extend to creating a Death
Star to preserve all
Funnily enough the cost of doing so has been looked into:
http://news.com.au/technology/lehigh-university-figure-out-how-much-it-costs-to-build-death-star/story-e6frfro0-1226275852491
In short, $8,100,000,000,000,000 and would take about 800,000 years.
Probably not a viable solution :)
On
Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:
...
we are trying to reach potential candidates in a different way
Does Leonie Haimson want to interview to be co-director?
http://www.classsizematters.org/about-us/
She started editing in the past year, after suffering from a paid
advocacy-introduced inaccuracy
2014/1/21 Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org:
I am not going to debate the different kinds of movement representation in
the board, but I would argue that the community directly and indirectly
influences 100% of the board, as appointed members are appointed by
(s)elected members and
Hoi,
Sorry I cannot parse this suffering from a paid advocacy-introduced
inaccuracy contrary to the peer reviewed secondary literature
Thanks,
GerardM
On 22 January 2014 11:29, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:
...
we are trying to reach potential
Thanks for the assurance that the community directly and indirectly
influences 100% of the board.
Could someone point me to where this happened for the founder of the
Wikimedia Foundation?
Thanks again,
Fae
On 21 January 2014 17:28, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey
I am
Founder of the Wikimedia Foundation = One who founded/established the
foundation? Sorry; I didn't get your question.
Regards,
Jee
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the assurance that the community directly and indirectly
influences 100% of the board.
GerardM, please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Class-size_reductiondiff=563977349oldid=405118703
...for starters. The editor from 2010 is a strident charter schools
movement proponent who strongly prefers parochial education to public
education in the U.S., which is a surprisingly
Founder of a company that hosted the first wiki setup named as Wikipedia
after someone else suggested it due to the failure of Nupedia.
There is currently a Foundation where he is limited to the boy who
sometimes talks to the press only after YEARS of internal wars, including
press coverage of he
Oh for heavens sake, what does that have anything to do with this thread?
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Experience is a
The 100% being reduced to at least 90% but, in fact, my wording was
friendly to start a flame war. Sorry for that.
Em 22/01/2014 11:27, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info escreveu:
Oh for heavens sake, what does that have anything to do with this thread?
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Any views or opinions
Hey
There is no “community consultation” period in the selection proces. Its simply
not feasible or desirable to have someone have a public “vetting” phase. The
good news is that you elected representatives on the board who have a strong
voice in the selection process and final approval.
Hey Frederico
I will write an update for the meta page in the coming week or so but just to
give you a general sense of where we are at: we are trying to reach potential
candidates in a different way, and so far that looks like a good strategy. This
means more direct contact between the
Hello,
I would also prefer to avoid an expression such as fiasco. Having not
found a candidate in 2013 was unpleasant, unfortunate, undesirable...
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Dienstag, 21. Januar 2014 schrieb Jan-Bart de Vreede :
Hey Frederico
I will write an update for the meta page in the
Hi Jan-Bart,
I was unaware that the panel had gone back to the drawing board with
looking at new candidates. I gather from the tenor of Sue's original
posting that she was planning to have moved on by now, has she committed to
continuing to work on for the forseeable future while you continue to
Thanks for getting back to me.
Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:
There is no community consultation period in the selection proces. It's
simply not feasible or desirable to have someone have a public vetting
phase.
I'm not sure I understand how it would be infeasible. It's 2014, not 1814.
I think we've
Thanks Jan-Bart for the answer.
Jan-Bart de Vreede, 21/01/2014 12:09:
[...] I am not sure what you are referring to as “avoid another fiasco”, [...]
Sorry, I'll clarify: it would be a fiasco (only) if you had the same
result again. I was just aiming for a summary of the previous and
current
Hey
I am sure it is technically feasible, its just not realistic from a hiring
perspective. I cannot tell a potential candidate that process includes a public
vetting process, this is something that is just not going to happen. We are
hiring an ED for the Wikimedia Foundation, and the Board of
I have to say that much as I would like to have the opportunity for us, as
the community, to participate in the process, I understand that this could
likely deter many quality people from applying (and we don't want only
those who are currently between jobs, right?).
best,
dariusz pundit
On
I don't know what to think about a final community consultation on a
specific name. Personally I suspect that I wouldn't be able to say
anything about it, as with
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Executive_Director_Transition_Team/Update_9_December.
Speaking of which, I wonder how the problems
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