[Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-22 Thread Kim Bruning
For those interested, a quick reminder: The travel guide RFC will (soft) close in 1 hour, 17 minutes as of the moment this mail is sent. (At 0:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide sincerely, Kim Bruning __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> On 22 August 2012 20:50, Anthony wrote: >>> It possibly has a very thin copyright. >> >> Copyright doesn't have thickness. Either it is copyrightable or it isn't. > > Incorrect. In some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Anthony wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Dalton >> wrote: >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upperarm.jpg >> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arm.agr.jpg would probably be a >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 22 August 2012 20:50, Anthony wrote: > It possibly has a very thin copyright. Copyright doesn't have thickness. Either it is copyrightable or it isn't. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Todd Allen
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upperarm.jpg > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arm.agr.jpg would probably be a > better example. > > There's a good chance that wouldn't be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upperarm.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arm.agr.jpg would probably be a better example. There's a good chance that wouldn't be considered copyrightable under US law. __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upperarm.jpg > > That photo, according to the licenses on that page, has copyright. Do > you disagree? It possibly has a very thin copyright. And even that very thin copyright would be unlikely to hold

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM, geni wrote: > In the case of the US we can consider the constitutional basis of > copyright "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by > securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive > Right to their respective Writings and Discover

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 August 2012 19:44, wrote: > In most cases ( Covering the significant majority of all x-rays existing, but > not ruling out the possibility of rare uses of X-ray photography as an > artistic medium) . . . > > 7 None of the above > > Utilitarian work = uncopyrightable http://commons.wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread geni
On 22 August 2012 14:14, wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:19 PM, geni wrote: >>> On 21 August 2012 19:44, wrote: >>> Utilitarian work = uncopyrightable >>> >>> >>> Only under a fairly limited number of legal systems. >>> >>> >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:14 AM, wrote: >> Now clearly being able to judge that X is a utilitarian work is the more >> normal problem with >> this argument and why it is seldom used. Diagnostic images are one of the >> few clear-cut >> situati

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > I really doubt non-artistic works are copyrighted as a general rule anywhere I'm not sure what you mean by "non-artistic", but if you mean "purely utilitarian", as that term is interpreted by the court, then this is a good point. I was going to suggest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:02 AM, James Heilman wrote: > There are two things if the images are not copyrightable: > > 1) If users add images from lets say a textbook. Will someone on commons > simply delete them and thus it would be a waste of time. > > 2) Do we exposure either ourselves or the

[Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours

2012-08-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) The next Wikidata office hours are coming up. You're invited to come and ask your questions - technical or non-technical. Some of the things to talk about are for example the things listed in the "This needs your input" box on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata but other topics

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:19 PM, geni wrote: >> On 21 August 2012 19:44, wrote: >> >>> Utilitarian work = uncopyrightable >> >> >> Only under a fairly limited number of legal systems. >> >> [[ciatation needed]] I really doubt non-arti

[Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread James Heilman
There are two things if the images are not copyrightable: 1) If users add images from lets say a textbook. Will someone on commons simply delete them and thus it would be a waste of time. 2) Do we exposure either ourselves or the WMF to legal problems. And if so is this important enough to warran

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-22 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/8/21 Delphine Ménard : > If, however, we're going to mix editor's experience and satisfaction > about Wikimedia, I am cruelly missing any kind of feedback question > about the work of the chapters and/or other organisations or groups in > the Wikimedia Universe that would give people the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:19 PM, geni wrote: >> On 21 August 2012 19:44, wrote: >> >>> Utilitarian work = uncopyrightable >> >> >> Only under a fairly limited number of legal systems. >> >> -- >> geni >> >> ___