Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Katie Chan
On 28/04/2013 06:15, rupert THURNER wrote: also agree to simplify the rules. what i'd really love would be to better standardize and with it simplify "volunteer community", for all elections and votes. and at least my wish would be that people who donate their time by sending code patches to soft

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

2013-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Philippe Beaudette, 28/04/2013 06:48: Yep. Meta. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/LCA_Announcement I don't remember reading anything like that in that page, and checking again I find only something about "community advisory board"... confusion increases. Nemo __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

2013-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The problem of internal communication came up again at WMCON, but only about internal-l, see the couple quick opinions expressed: Oliver Keyes, 11/04/201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

2013-04-28 Thread Jan Eissfeldt
The annual plan 2012-13, published a couple of months after the announcement mid 2012, provided more explicitation; saying on p. 42: "..we intend to invest in more thoroughly understanding the non-en-WP communities, and growing our social and political capital. To that end, we will build a team of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] volunteers who don't know about opportunities

2013-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sumana Harihareswara, 24/02/2013 16:07: [...] I don't know the answer. Like Josh, I don't know how well our publicity about these things is penetrating our volunteer communities, and I don't know what level of penetration I would be satisfied with. I suspect that others have better answers rega

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

2013-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jan Eissfeldt, 28/04/2013 11:23: The annual plan 2012-13, published a couple of months after the announcement mid 2012, provided more explicitation [...] I remember that passage very well, I know that these positions have been announced a long time ago; I specifically asked documentation of «T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Itzik Edri
I agree. We should limit it to only community members, or to give equal right to everyone. Asaf, you right, but we are talking also about the FDC elections. a processes where we are not granting chapters and others organizations the right to vote but granting to the WMF. Giving only WMF staff, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Huib Laurens
I would say my view on the voting rules also, like last year where I was a active editor but wasn't allowed to vote because of the rule that you can't be blocked on more then one project. I was that year a administrator, list administrator and member of the LangCom. But was blocked on a project wh

[Wikimedia-l] Accommodation best practices

2013-04-28 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi everyone, Last year after the Berlin Hackathon I sent an email to internal-l about the accommodation. The text I sent was quite sharp to get a response. A lot of people replied to the email and it contained a lot of useful opinions. The discussion was quite heated at some point and I would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Accommodation best practices

2013-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Maarten Dammers, 28/04/2013 11:58: Last year after the Berlin Hackathon I sent an email to internal-l about the accommodation. The text I sent was quite sharp to get a response. A lot of people replied to the email and it contained a lot of useful opinions. The discussion was quite heated at some

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2013-04-28 Thread joko suwito
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[Wikimedia-l] FDC round 2 results are up

2013-04-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Greetings friends, As you know, the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) helps to make decisions about how to effectively allocate movement funds to achieve Wikimedia’s mission, vision, and strategy. [1]. On behalf of the FDC, I am pleased to announce recommendations for Round 2 of funds allocation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew Gray
On 28 April 2013 06:15, rupert THURNER wrote: > also agree to simplify the rules. what i'd really love would be to > better standardize and with it simplify "volunteer community", for all > elections and votes. and at least my wish would be that people who > donate their time by sending code patch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Sue Gardner
Interesting thread, Itzik --- to be honest, I had forgotten that staff had been granted the right to vote regardless of edit count. I wouldn't be surprised if the only staff members who do vote are those who would qualify under the edit count requirement anyway. Seems to me that rather than creati

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Sarah Stierch
I think it's a good idea Sue. Wikipedians are different than Wikimedians, etc.. There are many people on boards of chapters and involved in the community that might not "edit" on wiki spaces, making them perhaps unable to vote. And there are a lot of people involved in the community that aren't edi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Pavel Richter
2013/4/28 Sue Gardner > If edits on meta, mediawiki, outreach, etc., qualify, and we were to lower > the edit count requirement, then I think that would be inclusive of > most/all contributors. Would something like that make sense? > > Yes, that would be a very good solution! Pavel > Thanks, >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread MF-Warburg
2013/4/28 Pavel Richter > 2013/4/28 Sue Gardner > > > If edits on meta, mediawiki, outreach, etc., qualify, and we were to > lower > > the edit count requirement, then I think that would be inclusive of > > most/all contributors. Would something like that make sense? > > > > Yes, that would be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Risker
I'd actually suggest the opposite: That the only people eligible to vote for the three elected seats be active participants within the Wikimedia projects. That would drop the staff/contractor and advisory board eligibility. Alternately, let's make everyone eligible, including chapter staffbu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Steven Walling
On Sunday, April 28, 2013, Risker wrote: > I'd actually suggest the opposite: That the only people eligible to vote > for the three elected seats be active participants within the Wikimedia > projects. That would drop the staff/contractor and advisory board > eligibility. Alternately, let's mak

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Risker wrote: > I'd actually suggest the opposite: That the only people eligible to vote > for the three elected seats be active participants within the Wikimedia > projects. That would drop the staff/contractor and advisory board > eligibility. Alternately, le

[Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Deryck Chan
Dear trusty Wikimedians, The FDC decisions are out on Sunday. Despite my desperate attempts to assist WMHK's board to keep up with deadlines and comply with seemingly endless requests from WMF grantmaking and FDC support staff, we received an overwhelmingly negative assessment which resulted in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Fae
I am very sorry to read this Deryck. I know how completely committed you are to our movement and you have my sincere respect. I hope that those with influence carefully consider the issues you raise, and take a moment for doubt and serious review. Fae (mobile)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Erik Moeller
As background, relevant links I was able to find regarding the WMHK funding discussions: WMHK FDC proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Hong_Kong/Proposal_form Responses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Nathan
Asking for money to do something you are passionate about, and being subject to the scrutiny and criticism of your valued peers, was always going to be a wrenching and soul-sucking process. This is a good time to acknowledge that, and to think about how the FDC can make volunteers more comfortable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Alex Peek
Honest hardworking non-profits deserve more taxpayer money. I am optimistic that future generations figure this out On 28 April 2013 16:42, Nathan wrote: > Asking for money to do something you are passionate about, and being > subject to the scrutiny and criticism of your valued peers, was alwa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Jeromy-Yu Chan (Jerry~Yuyu)
Hi all I am ACTUALLY PANIC when reading this. Normally I would say please don't go, but realizing myself I am not on the Local Chapter board already and even myself start to feel don't know what to do next And I am sorry to say, the decision had totally stir up the emotion of the whole Wikimania

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

2013-04-28 Thread Mike Godwin
Sue writes: "Interesting thread, Itzik --- to be honest, I had forgotten that staff had > been granted the right to vote regardless of edit count. I wouldn't be > surprised if the only staff members who do vote are those who would qualify > under the edit count requirement anyway. > > "Seems to m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

2013-04-28 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 28 April 2013 09:49, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > The problem of internal communication came up again at WMCON, but only > about internal-l, see the couple quick opinions expressed: < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_** > 2013/Documentation/Day_2/WMF_**board#Charles:_W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: >As background, relevant links I was able to find regarding the WMHK >funding discussions: > >[...] Thanks for the links. I took a look at the current FDC members list[1] and the decision-making information[2] but I'm still a bit unclear how decisions like this[3] are made. Is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi sorry to hear about that Deryck. Hope we'll get to see you back around here. As said during the feedback session, we still have to figure out how to fund the first employee. The FDC process is a really heavy process that do take a huge amount of time and energy. This is a process everyone sh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-28 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 26/04/13 19:38, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Andrea Zanni wrote: At the moment, Wikisource could be a interesting corpora and laboratory for improving and enhancing OCR, as the OCR generated text is always proofread and corrected by humans. Try also Distributed Proofreaders. It is my impressio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread David Gerard
On 29 April 2013 06:14, Christophe Henner wrote: > As said during the feedback session, we still have to figure out how to fund > the first employee. > The FDC process is a really heavy process that do take a huge amount of time > and energy. This is a process everyone should want to avoid as m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > As background, relevant links I was able to find regarding the WMHK > funding discussions: > > WMHK FDC proposal: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Hong_Kong/Proposal_form > > Responses: > https: