Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary opt-out

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Southwood
Yes, the signal tends to be lost in the noise. Cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: Kevin Wayne Williams kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Love it! 2013/8/7, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: I have been thinking about this for a while, and now finally managed to write it down as a proposal. Details are on meta on the following link, below is the intro to the proposal:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually, an offline version of WIkipedia, though useful in remote locations and for secure-internet areas like schools (or prisons), is probably not as desirable as copies of specific content, such as a Wikipedia dump of the Paleontology portal or something like that. For people who wish to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
This may work very fine for little stubs about repetitive stuff, like the introductions of cities (location, population, foundation date, country, etc). But, how will that work for the rest of sections of Berlin (history, geography, politics...)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin 2013/8/7

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I thought so myself, but then I did a bit of research to figure out the state of natural language generation. I could not find easily a current state of the art, but I found this list of examples on the KPML website that is linked from the proposal, they are from 1998:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Anders Wennersten
Thanks for sharing your very interesting ideas. While I am not fully support your idea of implementation, I share your basic view of the need and think some of the concepts you introduce has a very high potential to better utilize the power of us having many versions. I have put in my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Most times the best approach is a compilation of several approaches. Perhaps we can use the Denny system for the little introduction of articles (for example: geography, biographies) and optional automatic translation for the rest of the article. I mean, if you follow a red link in a little

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 06.08.2013 20:03, Nathan wrote: I'll take on faith that anti-Americanism doesn't explain why you jump to this conclusion when there are many that make more sense, but how do you explain then the fact that the English Wikipedia (which, presumably, has a similar North American bias) is having

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Laura Hale
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely to be the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you, Anders. Yes, I published the idea in order to garner feedback and further evolve it. It is by no means ready-perfect-finished, it is rather really just a first draft. So suggestions, constructive critique, and improvements are obviously extremely welcome. -- 2013/8/7 Anders

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Obviously, this system should be only used as far as it carries. I don't know how far it might carry us - it might fail miserably, and not get beyond the Rome is a city. Rome is in Italy. Rome is known for The Colosseum, coffee and Vatican City (state). stage. It might lead to a glorious future,

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Thursday, 10-14:00 – Chapters Dialogue Session

2013-08-07 Thread Nicole Ebber
Forwarding this from wikimania-l, sorry for crossposting. Cheers, Nicole -- Forwarded message -- From: Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Date: 7 August 2013 21:15 Subject: Thursday, 10-14:00 – Chapters Dialogue Session To: Wikimania general list (open subscription)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Yaroslav M. Blanter, 07/08/2013 13:27: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely to be the case but not 100% obvious. Nathan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Ah, I believe these are editor's edit-measurements based on IP address, which is something quite different from base of operation. I tend to edit pages geo-located in the US when I visit those places, and I imagine many others not based in the US do the same. The same holds for all other countries

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Mark
On 8/7/13 4:22 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Yaroslav M. Blanter, 07/08/2013 13:27: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary opt-out

2013-08-07 Thread The Cunctator
Yes, it should be made clear that opt out will always be an acceptable user preference. On Aug 6, 2013 7:26 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Todd Allen wrote: [comments about VisualEditor] Hi Todd. Thank

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary opt-out

2013-08-07 Thread The Cunctator
This perspective is not a productive one for building and maintaining a community. You need to have a better way of granting legitimacy to people's concerns while being able to discern histrionics. Generally the optimal easy is to have there be a pathway by which the complainants have to fix the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary opt-out

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Southwood
Histrionics is generally not a productive policy either. It gets tedious after a while. Cheers Peter - Original Message - From: The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:54 PM Subject: Re:

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This Month in GLAM: July 2013

2013-08-07 Thread The 'This Month in GLAM' team
*This Month in GLAM* is a monthly newsletter documenting recent happenings within the GLAM project, such as content donations, residencies, events and more. GLAM is an acronym of *G*alleries, *L*ibraries, *A*rchives and *M*useums. You can find more information on the project at glamwiki.org.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates from the WMF Grantmaking department

2013-08-07 Thread Anasuya Sengupta
As for the FDC/annual plan grants, that would require for them to be recognised Wikimedia partner orgs in the new affiliation model, right? Nemo Unless I am mistaken, it would, yeah. I'm assuming that Anasuya is hoping that they would be able to achieve affcom recognition in their