[Wikimedia-l] Annual Plan development

2014-02-07 Thread ENWP Pine
What is the plan for community and board involvement in the development phases of the Annual Plan? Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mail

[Wikimedia-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, We have often had discussions about generating texts to be used in Wikipedia articles. The drawback of articles that are generated in this way is that they do not get updated as more information becomes available. The data in Wikidata is comparable with the kind of data often used in such pr

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Argentina report: January 2014

2014-02-07 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
Dear Wikimedians, Here is the monthly report of Wikimedia Argentina for January 2014. You can read the full report (in Spanish and English) here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Argentina/Reportes/2014-01 Also, the full reports of past months are available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Strainu
Hi Gerard, The problem that I have with Wikidata and automatically generated content like the reasonator does is: how do you know when has the script and the data reached an acceptable level? I've tested Reasonator a little with Romanian vilages and found errors in both the Wikidata fields and in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are two parts to your question. - When is the available data good enough - When is the script that does the text generation good enough The second is something that you can help with. When it is good enough for one item that is really well developed like JS Bach, it is good enoug

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Magnus Manske
Hi Andy, that message comes up when the JavaScript is broken. I just tried the Bach link, and it works fine for me. Probably a stale browser cache; force-reloading the page should help. Cheers, Magnus On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Your link has "gone very wrong". I woul

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Andy Mabbett
Your link has "gone very wrong". I would wait the suggested half hour before telling you this, but by then I hope to be asleep. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Feb 7, 2014 4:42 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > Hoi, > > We have often had discussions about generating t

[Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Hi, I just got a message that the Finnish Police have asked the fi.wikipedia, by sending an email to the wikifi-ad...@list.wikimedia.org, to give a written statement about their possible violation of the laws that regulate fundraising in Finland. There is a little news about this already onlin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Monk
Has anyone translated the email into English? Would be interesting to see what it says... Alex Monk On 7 February 2014 21:33, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > Hi, > > I just got a message that the Finnish Police have asked the fi.wikipedia, > by sending an email to the wikifi-ad...@list.wikimedia.org,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Seb35
It’s incredible that some governments think they "own" the language(s) mainly spoken in their country: fi.wikipedia.org is in Finnish but not related to Finland (non-Finnish people could visit fi.wikipedia.org, and Finnish people could visit other language Wikipedias). And it’s sad if they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1889/18890039001#L17P16b Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Kevin Gorman
My Finnish is hardly perfect, but the letter essentially outlines the Finnish law regarding what is and what isn't money collection activities, and then compares what goes on with fi.wikipedia.org with the relevant Finnish statutes, concluding that the fundraising campaign is in fact a money collec

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Isarra Yos
Who exactly would the webmaster of fi.wikipedia.org even be? On 08/02/14 00:24, Kevin Gorman wrote: My Finnish is hardly perfect, but the letter essentially outlines the Finnish law regarding what is and what isn't money collection activities, and then compares what goes on with fi.wikipedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Craig Franklin
The Foundation. Which is why WMFI shouldn't try to reply to this except to refer them on. Cheers, Craig On 08/02/2014 11:11 AM, "Isarra Yos" wrote: > Who exactly would the webmaster of fi.wikipedia.org even be? > > On 08/02/14 00:24, Kevin Gorman wrote: > >> My Finnish is hardly perfect, but th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Kevin Gorman
I suspect that the Finnish Police would consider whoever in charge of wikifi-ad...@list.wikimedia.org the webmaster; few people outside of our world understand how Wikipedia works. I second forwarding them on to the Foundation. Best, Kevin Gorman On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Craig Franklin w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Charles Gregory
In Australia, we (Wikimedia Australia) had to get fundraising approval before the 2010 fundraiser (when the chapters accepted and processed the payments and then passed a share back to the Wikimedia Foundation). This was made more complicated due to the fundraising laws being a state issue rather

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Kevin Gorman
I would dispute the suggestion the Finnish Wikipedia is specific to Finland; I read it regularly and have never been to Finland. There are at a bare minimum something like 300,000 fluent Finnish speakers who don't live in Finland (and I don't think that's counting the portion of Swedes who speak F

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread George Herbert
Most importantly for all this, the SERVERS are not hosted in Finland (unless something snuck in there behind my back). Under US and EU laws, I would think there's no Finnish jurisdiction over where the servers are located. If the Finnish Police are asserting authority over any website written in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Charles Gregory
Of course it's not a strict 1:1 ratio! But I was comparing it to (for example) English or Spanish, which the country of origin represent a minority of all speakers worldwide. Charles On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote: > I would dispute the suggestion the Finnish Wikipedia i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement for the police about the fundraising?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hello all, We are handling this issue, and we are contacting the authorities to resolve their questions. If you receive any official inquires about fundraising on Finnish Wikipedia, please direct them to the Wikimedia Foundation legal team, to me or Andrei Voinigescu (avoinige...@wikimedia.org).