Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote: Within Wikimedia CH, this is an idea that we have discussed a few years ago: how can we support software and other communities that our community depends on, while avoiding to just give away money. In the end, we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Erik, there are cases in which this is clearly the right thing for us to do. 1) An annual 'supporting the ecosystem' program, that channels grants and visibility to important partners, seems interesting. Could this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread James Salsman
I would love to see the Foundation support archive.org and webcitation.org. I have seen dozens of community members express hopes for Foundation monetary support of both continued survival and faster response time for both. But I am not aware of any acknowledgement from the Foundation other than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Documentation of the Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-04-16 Thread Jon Davies
Thanks Cornelius (and everyone else for this and all you did at the conference. Great to share the learning so quickly. I have posted it on to our wiki. Jon On 15 April 2014 18:12, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Wikimedians, on behalf of the Documentation Team of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Documentation of the Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-04-16 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
On 15.04.2014 19:12, Cornelius Kibelka wrote: on behalf of the Documentation Team of the Wikimedia Conference 2014 I'm happy to announce that we published all the minutes and photos of all sessions, as far as they were available and ready. Check them out on https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Craig Franklin
I find myself in furious agreement with Charles here. For years the Foundation has been insisting (and quite rightly so) that allied organisations consider only the stark benefit-per-dollar that they can extract for each piece of movement funding, as measured by KPIs and metrics. Handing out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 April 2014 13:03, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Grants directed to the development specific functionality that Wikimedia can use and which can later be included in other project's core offerings? Sure, I don't think anyone has a problem with that. But I think that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Craig Franklin
I don't think the message of having a bit of discipline in your budget and making value-for-money a prime consideration is at all a bad thing for chapters to be doing. The way that the message was hammered in was at times arrogant, aggressive, or plain out insulting, but the message itself was a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi, I would like to point out a couple of points: * WMF or other affiliates can (and should, IMHO) look out for sponsorships towards other organisations worth supporting when there is the occasion, this is IMHO a legitimate activity (and investment) as any other, i.e. the sponsor gains the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Nathan
Many of the chapters are still in startup mode - a challenge that the WMF should avoid when targeting organizations for sponsorship or donation. Perhaps more saliently, OSM, MariaDB, Internet Archive etc. are not representing the Wikimedia movement, aren't using Wikimedia trademarks, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-04-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Article on the matter in The Daily Dot, April 14: http://www.dailydot.com/business/wikipedia-paid-editing-scandal-stanton/ Apparently, Tim Sandole complains of not having been managed properly by anybody, saying, The person I dealt with at Wikimedia didn't seem to know anything about Wikipedia.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-04-16 Thread
On 16 April 2014 15:19, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: ... Apparently, Tim Sandole complains of not having been managed properly by anybody, saying, The person I dealt with at Wikimedia didn't seem to know anything about Wikipedia. I believe it was clear from Sue's frank report and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our next strategy plan-Paid editing)

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Maggs
On 26 Mar 2014, at 21:35, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: snip It would be great if this sort of rating was being systematically checked - but at a vague estimate of thirty seconds to scan, grade, and tag, aggregated across all pages on enwiki, that's about fifteen or twenty

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 16/04/2014 14:13, Craig Franklin a écrit : I don't think the message of having a bit of discipline in your budget and making value-for-money a prime consideration is at all a bad thing for chapters to be doing. The way that the message was hammered in was at times arrogant, aggressive, or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile Operator IP Drift Tracking and Remediation

2014-04-16 Thread Adam Baso
Inline. Thanks for starting this thread. Sorry if I've overlooked this, but who/what will have access to this data? Only members of the mobile team? Local project CheckUsers? Wikimedia Foundation-approved researchers? Wikimedia shell users? AbuseFilter filters? It's a good question. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile Operator IP Drift Tracking and Remediation

2014-04-16 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi Adam, One thought: you don't really need the date/time data at any detailed resolution, do you? If what you're wanting it for is to track major changes (last month it all switched to this IP) and to purge old data (delete anything older than 10 March), you could simply log day rather than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/15/2014 05:12 PM, David Gerard wrote: Yeah, one of the first things to do is to talk to these partner organisations (because they are partner organisations) and ask what would actually be helpful, rather than helpy One thing that Erik has not mentionned (probably because it simply

[Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-16 Thread Russavia
Hi all, I just wanted to find out what the stance of the WMF is on the issue of WMF employees and contractors editing articles on themselves, or fellow employees, in direct contravention of COI guidelines? Is this a practice that is officially frowned upon? Whilst researching the Belfer fiasco I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile Operator IP Drift Tracking and Remediation

2014-04-16 Thread Adam Baso
Great idea! Anyone on the list know if there's a way to make the debug log facilities do the MMDD timestamp instead of the longer one? If not, I suppose we could work to update the core MediaWiki code. [1] -Adam 1. For those with PHP skills or equivalent, I'm referring to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-16 Thread
It would be fantastic if the Foundation were to take *positive action* and make it clear that its employees are immediately directed to not edit Wikipedia articles about each other, ex-colleagues, the Foundation, the Foundation's partners, suppliers and contractors or the Foundation's critics.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Quim Gil
At least about non-profit software organizations that we rely on (aka upstream projects), I agree with the idea of having a strategy of support and the sensible resources to support it. The easy part is to explain the principle and the strategy to our editors and donors. We got here because these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-16 Thread Victor Grigas
Hi, I can't speak on behalf of the rest of WMF staff, but since I made three edits to the 'Zack Exley' article, I feel that I owe a public explanation of the three edits that I made. Here are the edits: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zack_Exleydiff=506286326oldid=504412402 In my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:48 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: I would love to see the Foundation support archive.org and webcitation.org. I have seen dozens of community members express hopes for Foundation monetary support of both continued survival and faster response time for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-16 Thread Sue Gardner
On 16 April 2014 14:03, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Could the WMF and the BoT perhaps clarify whether COI editing amongst WMF staff/contractors is officially discouraged/forbidden, and whether there is something official in writing which lays out guidelines for how and when

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On the software side, we have Ubuntu Linux (itself highly indebted to Debian) / Apache / MariaDB / PHP / Varnish / ElasticSearch / memcached / Puppet / OpenStack / various libraries and many other dependencies [2],