Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Lodewijk
the problem is all projects use a different format :) Maybe it is worth the effort to investigate if we can come to a single format... at least on the input side. Lodewijk 2014-08-04 3:43 GMT+02:00 Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm: Does the same apply to other sister projects? It could make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread David Gerard
We don't know yet for sure what the disappeared page is. I would advise caution before spreading it across the Net and back. Remember that Wikipedia is *big and scary* to people outside it. It's quite possible this is something that really doesn't belong in a BLP, but the subject doesn't quite

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine. Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers, and not the community at large? -- Andy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Liam Wyatt
Lodewijk: Yes indeed. The citation/footnote coding format for different language editions of Wikipedia is not the same, not to mention the other Wikimedia projects. I wonder if this is something that Wikidata could (eventually) handle? I have been hoping that one day all books (at least those with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread
On 04/08/2014, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine. Why would that need to be dealt with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2014 11:03, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine. Why would that need to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread
On 04/08/2014, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: ... I wonder if this is something that Wikidata could (eventually) handle? I have been hoping that one day all books (at least those with ISBNs) could have a Wikidata entry. This would mean that all of the bibliographic There is no point in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:22, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/08/2014, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2014 11:03, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the issue to the OTRS volunteers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 08:18, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: the problem is all projects use a different format :) Maybe it is worth the effort to investigate if we can come to a single format... at least on the input side. I believe such is being discussed, as part of the wider

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:15, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if this is something that Wikidata could (eventually) handle? I have a brain-dump about how this might work, in my user pace at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Citations_-_the_future For me, one of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Asking Google to output Wikipedia citation format in Scholar

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2014 11:43, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The current editing interface on the English Wikipedia has the cite tool which effectively does the same thing if you put in the ISBN I find that often rimes out, sadly. (It works well with Google books URLs, though.) -- Andy Mabbett

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commonwealth Games

2014-08-04 Thread Pyb
Andy Mabbett andy@... writes: Do we have anyone at the Commonwealth Games? The first edition of the European Games is intended to take place in Baku, Azerbaijan, in June 2015. We may try to obtain some accreditations for photographers. I do not have enough time to take care of this project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread Fred Bauder
On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine. Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers, and not the community at large? --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-04 Thread Jessie Wild
I put the slides on commons immediately after the presentation: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grantmaking_Impact_Assessment,_2013-14.pdf As for the cost-benefit question: YES ABSOLUTELY we need all the costs involved! This is one of the major gaps we saw in reporting: we weren't able to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I will be there :) Thanks, GerardM On 4 August 2014 15:56, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote: I put the slides on commons immediately after the presentation: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grantmaking_Impact_Assessment,_2013-14.pdf As for the cost-benefit question:

[Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
This is a good read in its own right: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_sell_at_any_price_reviewed_by_sarah_o_holla.html but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread Magnus Manske
You're familiar with this, I take it: http://radio.publicdomainproject.org/ On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: This is a good read in its own right:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread Jesse de Vos
Thanks, great article. At Sound and Vision in the Netherlands we recently digitized nearly 10.000 (mainly Dutch) 78 rpm records. Unfortunately researching whether this material is PD or not is an enormous effort. By the looks of it only a very small part of it will be PD in the US. Once the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2014 15:11, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine. This is surprisingly common with indie records.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwXayHbUQ2o https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record-Rama 2014-08-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: This is a good read in its own right:

[Wikimedia-l] Subject: Re: Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread Tim Davenport
Arguably of more importance than the loss of unique (1 specimen only) 78 records are the loss of unique newspapers and political leaflets, which are legion. The latter naturally had a lower survival rate than mass produced-and-comparatively durable phonograph records. This is not to say that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-04 Thread rupert THURNER
hi jessie, nice to hear this from you! how will the central cost be considered, e.g. grantmaking department of the wmf? rupert Am 04.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org: I put the slides on commons immediately after the presentation:

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Serbia ED

2014-08-04 Thread Filip Maljkovic
Dear friends, We would like to inform you that Wikimedia Serbia board of trustees and Wikimedia Serbia Executive Director, Mile Kiš, have mutually decided to part ways and to end Mile's employment at the position of ED. Mile will remain Wikimedia Serbia ED until September 1. We would like

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania Hackathon wants your signatures

2014-08-04 Thread Quim Gil
1,6 days before the start of the Wikimania Hackathon... #impatient If you are planning to attend, there is something simple that you can still do. Please go to https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#Topics and leave your signature in the sessions that you wish to attend. It's pretty

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread geni
On 4 August 2014 15:53, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2014 15:11, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread geni
On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: We don't know yet for sure what the disappeared page is. I would advise caution before spreading it across the Net and back. Remember that Wikipedia is *big and scary* to people outside it. It's quite possible this is something

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rarest records

2014-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2014 19:07, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Eh there used to be fairground/seaside booths where you could cut your own record. One the plus side this stuff should last longer than say floppy discs. I've wanted one of these for years: http://www.elpj.com/ OTOH, even the Internet

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effective censorship of Wikipedia by Google

2014-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2014 19:15, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: We don't know yet for sure what the disappeared page is. I would advise caution before spreading it across the Net and back. Remember that Wikipedia is *big and scary* to people

[Wikimedia-l] Multilingual office hours

2014-08-04 Thread Pine W
Most office hours are understandably in English, but I for one would be interested in supporting language diversity in our office hours. I believe that at least three WMF employees in the Grantmaking Department speak some Spanish, and Spanish is spoken by a large percentage of the global south,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Multilingual office hours

2014-08-04 Thread MF-Warburg
How do you envision the bilingual office hours to be set up? Should there be someone who translates everything that is being said? It seems to me that having office hours in simply a different language than English, if enough informed staffers are able to speak it, would be more feasible. Am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Multilingual office hours

2014-08-04 Thread Pine W
Google Translate is adequate for imperfect but understandable Spanish and French translations into English, so anyone who needed live interpretation or post-meeting translation of Spanish or French into English could use Google Translate. I don't know how feasible it is to use Google Translate