Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 5:53 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: What other unfortunate laws are happening elsewhere in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-18 Thread Thyge
I do not think that WMF's filing a suit against NSA should be a starting point for demanding the WMF to cure all the evils of the World, political or otherwise . Even handling the recognized problems of some minor Wikipedias fall outside the scope of the WMF. Wikipedia is the Encyclopedia anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 15-03-18 03:09 AM, Mathias Damour wrote: [from the Convention on the Rights of the Child] [...] this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds Interestingly enough, to me this reads /against/ the idea of a Wikipedia for Kids insofar as the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread
On 18 March 2015 at 12:59, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: For instance, would a Russian Kids' Wikipedia carefully avoid promotion of homosexuality as their law now demands (to pick one salient example amongst thousands). Yes it would. Though this has been bounced about as a project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread Dennis During
Thanks for moving this close to completion. I hope finalization goes well. However, It found Special:UsersWhoWillBeRenamed totally useless at Wiktionary, as I'm sure it is at any mature project. Only 25 names appear at time. On Wiktionary the first page only includes names using exclusively

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2015 at 14:02, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: But TLDR - a Wikpedia *adapted* for children is a good idea. http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's basically the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'd be the most vocal opponent of an encyclopedia *censored* for children. But I would be a very vocal proponent of an encyclopedia *adapted* for children. Not by dumbing it down and not by removing information that some cultures, religions or governments consider immoral or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread
Correction. This link lists backwards from Fae but misses out Fae: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UsersWhoWillBeRenameddir=prevoffset=Fae This link lists forwards from Fae but again misses out Fae!:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2015 at 16:07, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Indeed. http://schools-wikipedia.org is already used around the world - it's a great example of what can be done if Wikimedians work with (even passively with) other orgs. Everyone likes it, not many are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Thyge ltl.pri...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think that WMF's filing a suit against NSA should be a starting point for demanding the WMF to cure all the evils of the World, political or otherwise. Well, not all the evils of the world, obviously. :) But there

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing interim COO

2015-03-18 Thread Lila Tretikov
Dear Wikimedians, At the Wikimedia Foundation, our mission is to empower, support and engage people around the world to share in free knowledge. One of our top priorities for the WMF in 2015 is improving organizational effectiveness in service of this mission. This means we need to strengthen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 13:59, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 15-03-18 03:09 AM, Mathias Damour wrote: [from the Convention on the Rights of the Child] [...] this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds Interestingly enough, to me this reads /against/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 02:32, Samuel Klein a écrit : Thanks for summarizing this, Mathias. I love the work that has been done so far on Wikikids, and think WMF should think about creative ways to make such projects successful. Gathering knowledge for all audiences requires simpler language than most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread Dennis During
I'm a bit confused about implications of SUL for edit history. What name will show up in page history for a contribution made by someone who, after SUL, has a new name? The new name, if any, of that user? The name being used at the time, which would now be attributed to someone who did not make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New financing model for editations

2015-03-18 Thread Richard Symonds
I worry that running an auction and a raffle for each - or even some - editathons would be a lot of work, even if you just focus on the admin work (I'm not sure what the laws around fundraising auctions and lotteries are but that could be costly too). The FDC and the community in general are very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing interim COO

2015-03-18 Thread Pine W
Welcome Terry. Will we have a chance to meet you at the Wikimedia Conference? Is the COO role temporary for the duration of the strategy review or does interim mean indefinite pending a more expansive search for a permanent COO? Gayle, thanks for your resilience in the HR role. Good luck!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread MF-Warburg
Special:Log/renameuser Am 19.03.2015 00:59 schrieb Dennis During dcdur...@gmail.com: So, for the third time: Will there be a report accessible to normal users that has the name changes for the most voluminous contributors who have had a name change so that one can transfer one's experience

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Commons

2015-03-18 Thread Carmen Alcázar
Hello. I am Wikipedian in residence and want to upload a high quality tiff archive and I can't seem to upload more than 100.00 MB. I get this message: You can only upload files with a size of up to 100.00 MB. What is happening ? Do you know what I can do? -- *Wikipedia es algo especial. Es como

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread Dennis During
Thanks MFWarburg. Almost exactly what I want and certainly good enough for now. On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:43 PM, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: Special:Log/renameuser Am 19.03.2015 00:59 schrieb Dennis During dcdur...@gmail.com: So, for the third time: Will there be a report

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-18 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: These off topic emails about the same subject Andreas grinds his axe about perpetually are pretty annoying. Can moderation do something please? I'm not sure what forum would be more on-topic, if not this one. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 20:41, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 15-03-18 02:19 PM, Mathias Damour wrote: [...] the content must be appropriate for children [...] The problem is exactly that. What is or is not appropriate for children is an inherently *political* question, the answer to which is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit : http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's basically the refutation of all attempts to, er, filter the base product. Teachers love it, what about children? Le

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 15:02, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit : Both were printed in Russian in the Soviet Union, so they also had, um, ideological adaptations, which I was smart enough to spot (yay for me), but the reason I loved it is that it had large illustrations, clear and large font and engaging language.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing interim COO

2015-03-18 Thread Gayle Karen Young
Dear colleagues, It was a difficult decision to leave the Wikimedia Foundation as its CTCO. Some of my best memories of my time with the Wikimedia movement include the privilege of interacting and learning from Wikipedians at the Chapters Conferences and Wikimanias in D.C., Hong Kong, and London,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
I'm not dismissing other approaches! I'm noting one approach that did work :-) On 18 March 2015 at 20:02, Mathias Damour mathias.dam...@laposte.net wrote: Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit : http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:00 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Keegan, Just a thought: you could invite WMFers to have SUL finalization parties during a few lunch hours. Invite people out of their silos to work with you and interact with the community to answer account-owner FAQs,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-18 Thread Pine W
Hi Keegan, Just a thought: you could invite WMFers to have SUL finalization parties during a few lunch hours. Invite people out of their silos to work with you and interact with the community to answer account-owner FAQs, translate the QA, and interact with WMF's customers. While this is a little