Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 136, Issue 47

2015-07-20 Thread Jon Davies
Fantastic news and long overdue - I hope the women editors will receive all the support they need. On 19 July 2015 at 14:43, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via

[Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, may i propose to fix the attribution problem for the one common use case do it like wikipedia does. somebody who refers to images from commons like wikipedia does it should be on legal safe grounds. there is a recent incident of non-wiki-love where user harald bischoff states comes into

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiWomen's User Group

2015-07-20 Thread Isabella Apriyana
Congratulations! On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, I am pleased and honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committe the recognition [1] of a new member of the family of Wikimedia affiliates: The WikiWomen's User Group.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Jane Darnell
I would agree - it has annoyed me for years that on Dutch Wikipedia, if you use a painting image from Commons in an article, you may attribute the painter (though it's not required) but you may NOT attribute the painting's owner (often a museum and this seems ridiculous to me). I agree we should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
What do you mean by legalize? The license is what the license is, while we might influence future versions of the license, we don't really control how current licenses are interpreted. That is an issue for the courts. There is a modest ambiguity in CC BY-SA 3.0 about the attribution clauses

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Craig Franklin
Indeed, as Kirill says, the grants process is owned by the WMF (albeit one hosted on Meta), not by the community, so I'm not sure why the Meta community needs to get involved. It actually seems to me that the foundation wiki would be a better home for processes like this so that community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Book Grant program

2015-07-20 Thread Dennis During
Is the omission of sister projects (Commons, Species, Wiktionary) intentional? On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: That's great. :) if you add something for queries please contact joh@example.org or something like that on the Book Grant page too (

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Pine W
I agree that if the grants discussions were on Foundation wiki that WMF staff would have more leeway to make decisions without going through the Board or community. It seems to me that Meta is a community project wiki that is governed by community leadership and community content moderation, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Newyorkbrad
I would have a serious problem with someone litigating, or threatening to litigate, over an instance of technical non-compliance with the license terms; much less so if the (alleged) infringer persisted in republishing without requested attribution information after warnings. Has anyone directly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 July 2015 at 18:09, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: it is also hard for me to get behind the notion of punishing someone for demanding that reusers due the things that Commons actually recommends that they do. It's not a question of punishment, but of protecting Commons'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Board of Trustees Chair and Vice Chair positions

2015-07-20 Thread Oona Castro
Very good news! Congratulations, Patricio! I'm happy for you and for Wikimedia movement! Oona 2015-07-17 15:48 GMT-03:00 Nasir Khan nasir8...@gmail.com: Great news! Congratulations Patricio and Alice! thanks Nasir Khan Wikimedia Bangladesh -- *Nasir Khan Saikat* www.nasirkhn.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Richard Symonds
I think the next step is for someone to notify him that he's being talked about. :-) On 20 Jul 2015 13:39, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 20 July 2015 at 18:09, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: it is also hard for me to get behind the notion of punishing someone for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
Poking around I found the following related discussions listed below (all in German) dealing with the current issue and a similar 2013 complaint. In the second link Harald responds a couple times to the 2013 complaint. The Google translate versions of the linked discussions are somewhat hard to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Pine, As you insist on such formality, can you imagine that it is a huge turn-off for others? The thing that troubles ME most, is that a friendly space policy is something that is so obvious in so many ways, that I cannot fathom what the objection could be and therefore what the added value is of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: snip Since when has that ever been a thing? With respect to licenses such as CC, we follow the same rules as anyone else. Not really. Commons actually recommends that an explicit credit line accompany CC BY

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
***note this reply is entirely in my personal capacity and in no way represents anything official*** On Jul 20, 2015 3:09 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: the distinction because wikipedia is owned by wmf we refer differently to commons than anybody else needs to go away imo.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
***note this reply is still entirely in my personal capacity and in no way represents anything official*** On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: Since when has that ever been a thing? With respect to licenses such as CC, we follow the same rules as anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Lilburne
On 20/07/2015 19:38, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 20 July 2015 at 18:09, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: it is also hard for me to get behind the notion of punishing someone for demanding that reusers due the things that Commons actually recommends that they do. It's not a question of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 20 July 2015 at 18:09, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: it is also hard for me to get behind the notion of punishing someone for demanding that reusers due the things that Commons actually recommends

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Gerard, The process for starting an RfC is relatively easy, and I'm generally willing to be the initiator of one. Likewise, board resolutions happen freqently, can be straightforward, and could take place to support a friendly space policy. If there isn't an RfC or board resolution or some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 2. CA says that there are ...a (legal-approved) list of... event banned users, a protocol for appearance (or threat of it) at events by banned users and that it will Supply to Conference Coordinators for events beginning in Q1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Book Grant program

2015-07-20 Thread Keilana
Re: contact information - there is now contact information! Re: sister projects - we're focusing on article writing for the pilot since it's so small - to make measuring impact a little less onerous - but if the pilot goes well I think we will definitely open it up more! -Emily On Mon, Jul 20,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiWomen's User Group

2015-07-20 Thread Sydney Poore
Thank you everyone for the warm welcome for this new WikiWomen's User Group. Help us spread the work all around the world to chapters and other affiliated organizations that are working on the gender gap already and would find this group an useful place to connect with other people with similar