Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train-a-Wikipedian (TAW): New initiative

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

Good initiative, I let some suggestion at Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:CIS-A2K/Train-a-Wikipedian



The only substantial criticism is the Wikipediacentrism on this project;
because most of those things that you will teach in this project could be
applied in all Wikimedia Movement on-line communities, but if you would not
include on the learning, they may not know that.

See ya.


On 2 November 2015 at 14:11, Katy Love  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, Tito. Looking forward to hearing how the
> Train-a-Wikipedian project goes in those five languages.
>
> Katy
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to inform you about a new project “Train-a-Wikipedian” (TAW),
> > powered by CIS-A2K.
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Train-a-Wikipedian
> >
> > You may know of the English Wikipedia program Adopt-a-user
> > . We wanted to
> start
> > something similar for the Indian Wikimedia communities.
> >
> > In February and June this year, CIS-A2K conducted Train the Trainer
> >  (TTT) and MediaWiki
> > Train
> > the Trainer
> > <
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Events/MediaWiki_Train_the_Trainer_Program
> > >
> > (MWTTT). After conducting these two events, and communicating with the
> > participants we found the necessity to start a training program that
> we’ll
> > be running on regular basis, and from there we conceived this
> > “Train-a-Wikipedian” program.
> >
> > Initially, we’ll concentrating on these 5 Indian languages Wikis: 1)
> > Kannada, 2) Konkani, 3) Marathi, 4) Odia, 5) Telugu. But, we may expand
> > soon, if our program is a success.
> >
> > In our TAW main page
> > , we have
> > listed a number of topics those we’ll discussing during our training. We
> > hope to conduct hangout or webinar sessions.
> >
> > Please provide your feedback and suggestion. :-)
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > User:Titodutta
> >
> > English Wikipedia administrator
> > CIS-A2K Program Associate (consultant)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in operational management.

[Gregory Varnum]

Thank you, Terry, for your service - and best wishes on your next adventure!

-greg (User:Varnent)


> On Nov 5, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Lila Tretikov  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I’m writing to let you know that Terry Gilbey will be leaving the WMF. As
> Interim Chief Operating Officer this year, he helped us improve operational
> processes across the organization during an important time. I thank him for
> completing this service.
> 
> During this time WMF teams became stronger, with more freedom to make right
> decisions in support of our communities. The Team Practices Group will
> continue to carry forward maintaining and helping improve the
> organizational processes we put into place.
> 
> With improved processes in place, I see the need to focus our attention on
> WMF culture. With this change, we will take the first step: Boryana will
> join the C-Level team, representing HR and employee voice at the top level
> of organizational leadership.
> 
> Our search for a new Chief Financial Officer is well on its way. Until we
> have a new CFO on board, the Finance team will report to me. The Office IT,
> Administration, and the Team Practices teams will report to Boryana. The
> Technology team that was co-managed by Terry and Wes will continue to be
> managed by Wes until we fill the leadership role internally or externally.
> 
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[Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Quim Gil]

Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
Wikimedia servers.

Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.

There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.

We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
the Q for details.[4]

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
[4]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A

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[Wikimedia-l] Changes in operational management.

[Lila Tretikov]

All,

I’m writing to let you know that Terry Gilbey will be leaving the WMF. As
Interim Chief Operating Officer this year, he helped us improve operational
processes across the organization during an important time. I thank him for
completing this service.

During this time WMF teams became stronger, with more freedom to make right
decisions in support of our communities. The Team Practices Group will
continue to carry forward maintaining and helping improve the
organizational processes we put into place.

With improved processes in place, I see the need to focus our attention on
WMF culture. With this change, we will take the first step: Boryana will
join the C-Level team, representing HR and employee voice at the top level
of organizational leadership.

Our search for a new Chief Financial Officer is well on its way. Until we
have a new CFO on board, the Finance team will report to me. The Office IT,
Administration, and the Team Practices teams will report to Boryana. The
Technology team that was co-managed by Terry and Wes will continue to be
managed by Wes until we fill the leadership role internally or externally.


  Lila
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Sam Klein]

Thank you.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
> product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> Wikimedia servers.
>
> Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
> still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
> the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
> work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
> collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
> and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
>
> There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
> will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
> will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
>
> We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
> the Q for details.[4]
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> [4]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Tito Dutta]

That's an interesting update. Thanks for sharing.
--
Tito

On 5 November 2015 at 23:05, Quim Gil  wrote:

> Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
> product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> Wikimedia servers.
>
> Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
> still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
> the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
> work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
> collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
> and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
>
> There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
> will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
> will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
>
> We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
> the Q for details.[4]
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> [4]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Update from the Wikimedia Performance Team

[Ori Livneh]

Hello,

This is the first monthly report from the Wikimedia Performance Team.
The purpose
of these reports is to showcase our work, track our progress, and spark
conversation.

## Who we are ##

As the Wikimedia Foundation’s Performance Team, we want to create
value for readers
and editors by making it possible to retrieve and render content at the
speed of thought, from anywhere in the world, on the broadest range of
devices and connection profiles.

We are five engineers: Aaron Schulz, Gilles Dubuc, Peter Hedenskog,
Timo Tijhof,
and me. Each of us was born in a different country and has a different mother
tongue. We work out of San Francisco, London, Stockholm, and Montpellier.

## What we are working on ##

* Availability. Although Wikimedia Foundation currently operates six data
centers, MediaWiki is only running on one (in Ashburn, Virginia). If you
are an editor in Jakarta, Indonesia, content has to travel over 15,000
kilometers to get from our servers to you (or vice versa). To run MediaWiki
concurrently from multiple places across the globe, our code needs to be
more resilient to failure modes that can occur when different subsystems
are geographically remote from one another.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88445

* Performance testing infrastructure. WebPageTest provides a stable
reference for a set of browsers, devices, and connection types from
different points in the world. It collects very detailed telemetry that we
use to find regressions and pinpoint where problems are coming from. This
is addition to the more basic Navigation Timing metrics we gather from real
users in production.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109666

* Media stack. We're currently working on overhauling our thumbnail
infrastructure to achieve multiple goals. Improving future-proof
maintainability by taking thumbnail code out of MediaWiki-Core and using a
service instead to perform thumbnail operations. Saving on expensive
storage by no longer storing multiple copies of all thumbnails on disk
forever. Enabling far-future expires for images, to greatly improve their
client cacheability. And finally switching to the best performing
underlying software to generate thumbnails faster.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111718

* ResourceLoader. ResourceLoader is the MediaWiki subsystem that is
responsible for loading JavaScript and CSS. Whereas much of MediaWiki's
code executes only sparingly (in reaction to editors modifying content)
ResourceLoader code runs over half a billion times a day on hundreds of
millions of devices. Its contribution to how users experience our sites is
very large. Our current focus is on improving ResourceLoader's cache
efficiency by packaging and delivering JavaScript and CSS code in a way
that allows it to be reused across page views without needing to be
repeatedly downloaded.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102578

## How are we doing? ##

In future reports, we will spend less time on introductions and more time
reporting on how particular performance metrics have trended since the
previous report and why. In the meantime, we invite you to check out our
dashboards:

* https://performance.wikimedia.org/
* https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/navigation-timing
* https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/time-to-first-byte
* https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/job-queue-health

## Feedback? ##

Please let us know what you think about these reports and whether we have
picked the right lists to send it to. (We're going to make sure this
information is available on mediawiki.org too.)

Until next time,
Aaron, Gilles, Peter, Timo & Ori
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Laurentius]

Il giorno gio, 05/11/2015 alle 18.35 +0100, Quim Gil ha scritto:
> Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve
> a
> product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> Wikimedia servers.

This is great news!

Just to understand, is it still present in MediaWiki but not active on
Wikimedia sites or it not in the MediaWiki code anymore?

Laurentius



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Chris Keating]

Yay! Great news about Superprotect's scrapping, also really good to hear
the direction of travel on the development process.

Chris
On 5 Nov 2015 17:36, "Quim Gil"  wrote:

> Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
> product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> Wikimedia servers.
>
> Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
> still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
> the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
> work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
> collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
> and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
>
> There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
> will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
> will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
>
> We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
> the Q for details.[4]
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> [4]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Dan Garry]

On 5 November 2015 at 10:14, Laurentius  wrote:

> Just to understand, is it still present in MediaWiki but not active on
> Wikimedia sites or it not in the MediaWiki code anymore?
>

There was a patch merged which removed the protection level completely:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/251286/

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Leila Zia]

great news, indeed!

Thanks to everyone involved during the different stages of this process for
making this happen. :-)

Leila

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> \o/
>
>A.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Dan Garry  wrote:
>
> > On 5 November 2015 at 10:14, Laurentius 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Just to understand, is it still present in MediaWiki but not active on
> > > Wikimedia sites or it not in the MediaWiki code anymore?
> > >
> >
> > There was a patch merged which removed the protection level completely:
> > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/251286/
> >
> > Dan
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

At last it is gone. Great news. Looking forward.

Bodhisattwa
On 6 Nov 2015 00:40, "Pierre-Selim"  wrote:

> It's a great news to hear that superprotect is gone and the willingness of
> a better collaboration.
> It's a long-awaited move.
>
> 2015-11-05 20:03 GMT+01:00 Chris Keating :
>
> > Yay! Great news about Superprotect's scrapping, also really good to hear
> > the direction of travel on the development process.
> >
> > Chris
> > On 5 Nov 2015 17:36, "Quim Gil"  wrote:
> >
> > > Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve
> a
> > > product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> > > dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> > > Wikimedia servers.
> > >
> > > Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However,
> > we
> > > still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays
> > at
> > > the product deployment phase. We need to become better software
> partners,
> > > work together towards better products, and ship better features faster.
> > The
> > > collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual
> trust
> > > and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> > > build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
> > >
> > > There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2]
> that
> > > will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> > > stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> > > particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier
> on
> > > will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> > > potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
> > >
> > > We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors.
> > Check
> > > the Q for details.[4]
> > >
> > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> > > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> > > [4]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Pierre-Selim]

It's a great news to hear that superprotect is gone and the willingness of
a better collaboration.
It's a long-awaited move.

2015-11-05 20:03 GMT+01:00 Chris Keating :

> Yay! Great news about Superprotect's scrapping, also really good to hear
> the direction of travel on the development process.
>
> Chris
> On 5 Nov 2015 17:36, "Quim Gil"  wrote:
>
> > Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
> > product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> > dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> > Wikimedia servers.
> >
> > Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However,
> we
> > still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays
> at
> > the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
> > work together towards better products, and ship better features faster.
> The
> > collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
> > and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> > build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
> >
> > There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
> > will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> > stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> > particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
> > will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> > potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
> >
> > We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors.
> Check
> > the Q for details.[4]
> >
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> > [4]
> >
> >
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Asaf Bartov]

\o/

   A.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Dan Garry  wrote:

> On 5 November 2015 at 10:14, Laurentius  wrote:
>
> > Just to understand, is it still present in MediaWiki but not active on
> > Wikimedia sites or it not in the MediaWiki code anymore?
> >
>
> There was a patch merged which removed the protection level completely:
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/251286/
>
> Dan
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF October 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, November 5, 19:00 UTC

[Praveena Maharaj]

REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Praveena Maharaj 
Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:00 PM
Subject: Invitation to WMF October 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting:
Thursday, November 5, 19:00 UTC
To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org


Dear all,

The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on Thursday,
November 5, 2015, at 7:00 PM UTC (11 AM PST). The IRC channel is
#wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net, and the meeting will be broadcast as
a live YouTube stream.

Meeting agenda:

* Welcomes
* A few words from Jimmy Wales
* Strategy update
* Community update
* WMF top-level metrics
* Showcase: Content Translation
* Questions/discussions

Please review
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings for further
information about the meeting and how to participate.

We’ll post the video recording publicly after the meeting.

Thank you,
Praveena

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Todd Allen]

Yes indeed, thank you.
On Nov 5, 2015 10:36 AM, "Quim Gil"  wrote:

> Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
> product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> Wikimedia servers.
>
> Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
> still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
> the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
> work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
> collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
> and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
>
> There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
> will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
> will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
>
> We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
> the Q for details.[4]
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> [4]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update from the Wikimedia Performance Team

[Brad Jorsch (Anomie)]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Ori Livneh  wrote:

> Improving future-proof maintainability by taking thumbnail code out of
> MediaWiki-Core and using a service instead to perform thumbnail operations.


How does that affect third-party use of MediaWiki where people aren't able
to (or just aren't wanting to) install bespoke services?


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On 2015-11-05 18:35, Quim Gil wrote:
Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve 
a

product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
Wikimedia servers.



Great, thank you, it is clearly a step in a good direction.

Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[MZMcBride]

Brion Vibber wrote:
>In other words -- ignore the superprotect red herring! Please look at the
>documentation of the product process and give feedback on that, it's much,
>MUCH more important:
>
>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process

Great news to read that "superprotection" is dead! Erik brought an
invaluable amount of good to Wikimedia, but that mis-feature was
unequivocally bad. Personally, I think it was more of an albatross than a
red herring. ;-)  Good riddance.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Pete Forsyth]

Thank you for sharing the news, Quim.

Following Quim's announcement, there was also, for the first time since
nearly 1,000 Wikimedians requested the Foundation address this issue in
2014,[1] a formal statement about it from the organization's leadership.
Executive Director Lila Tretikov said today in the live-streamed, monthly
Metrics & Activities meeting:

"We wanted to remove Superprotect. Superprotect set up a precedent of
mistrust, and this is something it was really important for us to remove,
to at least come back to the baseline of a relationship where we're working
together, we're one community, to create a better process. To make sure we
can move together faster, and to make sure everybody is part of that
process, everybody is part of that conversation, and not just us at WMF."[2]

-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Letter_to_Wikimedia_Foundation:_Superprotect_and_Media_Viewer
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePV-7nhO-z0#t=18m50s
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

[Andreas Kolbe]

On October 30, the Wikimedia Foundation posted its audited financial
statements for the year ended June 30, 2015.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/0/0b/Audit_Report_-_FY_14-15_-_Final.PDF

The figures contained in these statements have a bearing on the present
discussion. Some highlights:

Net assets at end of year:
$77.8 million
(up $24.3 million from $53.5 million)

Current assets include:
$35.2 million in cash and cash equivalents
$29.0 million in short-term investments.

Total support and revenue:
$75.8 million
(up $23.3 million from $52.5 million)

Total expenses:
$52.6 million
(up $6.7 million from $45.9 million)

Internet hosting costs:
just under $2 million
(down $0.5 million from $2.5 million)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

[Pine W]

I was happy to see increasing net assets and increasing revenue. The
fundraising messages that WMF sends should to reflect the facts about where
the money will go and about the current financial status of WMF.

I've been told by someone whose history with the Wikimedia community is
longer than mine that many years ago, the chapters used to be in stronger
financial positions than WMF was. Eventually this flipped. As recently as a
few years ago were consistent questions about the effectiveness and
integrity of the chapters. In more recent history, the chapters seem to be
doing well in terms of effectiveness and integrity, and now the bulk of the
revenue is going to WMF where there are more questions about effectiveness
and integrity. I'm particularly troubled by the lack of responses from WMF
to a number of questions that I repeatedly asked about the 2015-2016 Annual
Plan, and I'd really like to see some work done on increasing financial
transparency in WMF as well as enhancing the integrity of the online
fundraising messages.

Pine

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> On October 30, the Wikimedia Foundation posted its audited financial
> statements for the year ended June 30, 2015.
>
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/0/0b/Audit_Report_-_FY_14-15_-_Final.PDF
>
> The figures contained in these statements have a bearing on the present
> discussion. Some highlights:
>
> Net assets at end of year:
> $77.8 million
> (up $24.3 million from $53.5 million)
>
> Current assets include:
> $35.2 million in cash and cash equivalents
> $29.0 million in short-term investments.
>
> Total support and revenue:
> $75.8 million
> (up $23.3 million from $52.5 million)
>
> Total expenses:
> $52.6 million
> (up $6.7 million from $45.9 million)
>
> Internet hosting costs:
> just under $2 million
> (down $0.5 million from $2.5 million)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Craig Franklin]

Good riddance to a bad mistake.  Hopefully the underlying causes of the
MediaViewer conflict can be addressed before any other incidents of this
nature occur.

Cheers,
Craig
On 06/11/2015 3:36 AM, "Quim Gil"  wrote:

> Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
> product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
> dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
> Wikimedia servers.
>
> Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
> still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
> the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
> work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
> collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
> and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
> build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.
>
> There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
> will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
> stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
> particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
> will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
> potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.
>
> We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
> the Q for details.[4]
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
> [4]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A
>
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> Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

[Ricordisamoa]

Hi Quim,
you really made my day. :-)

Il 05/11/2015 18:35, Quim Gil ha scritto:

Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
Wikimedia servers.

Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.

There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.

We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
the Q for details.[4]

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
[4]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process/2015-11-05#Q.26A




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[Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Belissarius

[Pine W]

Colleagues,

The Wikipedia community has received news of the passing of
User:Belissarius. He spoke Polish natively and English at a high level of
proficiency. He wrote about himself on his Wikipedia user pages at
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Belissarius
and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belissarius. Confirmation of his
passing appeared in the *Polish Daily News *at
http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/polonia/red-piotr-domaradzki-nie-zyje/

A self-portrait of him appears here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulkownik_P.JPG

His record includes 107,753 edits to Polish Wikipedia, and over 1000 edits
each to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Belissarius

May he rest in peace.

Regards,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update from the Wikimedia Performance Team

[Ori Livneh]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Ori Livneh  wrote:
>
> > Improving future-proof maintainability by taking thumbnail code out of
> > MediaWiki-Core and using a service instead to perform thumbnail
> operations.
>
> How does that affect third-party use of MediaWiki where people aren't able
> to (or just aren't wanting to) install bespoke services?
>

It doesn't. There is no plan to strip MediaWiki of its existing
capabilities or to make it depend on this service. And since the intention
is to improve existing quality of service (as opposed to providing new
functionality), I don't expect the feature-set to diverge.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Belissarius

[Asaf Bartov]

Sad news. :(

   A.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Colleagues,
>
> The Wikipedia community has received news of the passing of
> User:Belissarius. He spoke Polish natively and English at a high level of
> proficiency. He wrote about himself on his Wikipedia user pages at
> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Belissarius
> and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belissarius. Confirmation of his
> passing appeared in the *Polish Daily News *at
> http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/polonia/red-piotr-domaradzki-nie-zyje/
>
> A self-portrait of him appears here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulkownik_P.JPG
>
> His record includes 107,753 edits to Polish Wikipedia, and over 1000 edits
> each to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Belissarius
>
> May he rest in peace.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

[Ricordisamoa]

Il 01/11/2015 11:46, Shlomi Fish ha scritto:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:14:11 -0700
Asaf Bartov  wrote:


Dear friends,

Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to the
Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month, after long
illness.


sorry to hear about that. My condolences go to his family and friends.

Regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Belissarius

[Ricordisamoa]

Il 05/11/2015 22:57, Asaf Bartov ha scritto:

Sad news. :(

A.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Pine W  wrote:


Colleagues,

The Wikipedia community has received news of the passing of
User:Belissarius. He spoke Polish natively and English at a high level of
proficiency. He wrote about himself on his Wikipedia user pages at
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Belissarius
and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belissarius. Confirmation of his
passing appeared in the *Polish Daily News *at
http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/polonia/red-piotr-domaradzki-nie-zyje/

A self-portrait of him appears here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulkownik_P.JPG

His record includes 107,753 edits to Polish Wikipedia, and over 1000 edits
each to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Belissarius

May he rest in peace.

Regards,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Belissarius

[Shlomi Fish]

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 13:52:54 -0800
Pine W  wrote:

> Colleagues,
> 
> The Wikipedia community has received news of the passing of
> User:Belissarius. He spoke Polish natively and English at a high level of
> proficiency. He wrote about himself on his Wikipedia user pages at
> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Belissarius
> and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belissarius. Confirmation of his
> passing appeared in the *Polish Daily News *at
> http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/polonia/red-piotr-domaradzki-nie-zyje/
> 

Sorry to hear about that.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

> A self-portrait of him appears here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulkownik_P.JPG
> 
> His record includes 107,753 edits to Polish Wikipedia, and over 1000 edits
> each to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Belissarius
> 
> May he rest in peace.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pine
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