Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Sam Wilson
Jitsi is also integrated into Riot (the Matrix client). I was in a group 
trying it out a couple of weeks ago, and it worked really well. If there 
are two people in a room, it uses a direct connection, and if there are 
three or more it uses Jitsi (both inside the Riot interface, so there's 
no need to set up separate URLs or anything).



On 11/3/20 12:22 am, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:

I am a big fan of open source, and setting up a Jitsi conference is a
solution that I often default too (with a bonus of having the possibility
to have easy placeholders, e.g. meet.jit.si/WikimediaSummit

best,

dj

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:


For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
fine


https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE

but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.

Best
Yaroslav

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:


At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided

to

attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
May meetings might need to go virtual.

Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
dozen to twenty people?

I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade

ago,

but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly

Regards

WSC

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
From: Dariusz Jemielniak 
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Hi,

I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a

professional

team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5

months

in

the future.

It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer

where

we

stand.

For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is

not

shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing

down

the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
prioritizes our safety.

I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that

they

are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.

Best,

Dj "pundit"

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
wrote:


I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks

are

far too great.

A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.

I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I

strongly

hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this

year's

conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk

of

spreading it to more parts of the world.



Yours truly,

Rehman


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James Heilman 
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open

 From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans

and

have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course

in

healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.

James

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Chico Venancio
My only hangup with jitsi is the design choice (that zoom used to have) to
drop new attendees with mic and camera default to open as the default. I
know it is now possible to change this on a per meeting level, but the fact
that sometimes it isn't me setting up the meeting made me go with Google
meet for the time being. This was in the context of the User Group Wiki
Movement Brazil (WMB) periodical meetings.

Google gave us, WMB, a free non-profit subscription to all of gsuite and it
allows us meetings of up to 25 people. Last I checked the free tier without
the non-profit program is up to 10 people per meeting.

Jitsi is superior to zoom in my view, not only the open source aspect is
important but zoom does not have a browser based solution that I'm aware
of. And a few months ago there was a serious vulnerability disclosed for
the zoom local client that kept its foothold even *after* the user chose to
uninstall the zoom client.

For now my recommendations are meet, better than jitsi, better than zoom.

Best regards,

Chico Venancio

Em ter, 10 de mar de 2020 22:53, Sam Wilson  escreveu:

> Jitsi is also integrated into Riot (the Matrix client). I was in a group
> trying it out a couple of weeks ago, and it worked really well. If there
> are two people in a room, it uses a direct connection, and if there are
> three or more it uses Jitsi (both inside the Riot interface, so there's
> no need to set up separate URLs or anything).
>
>
> On 11/3/20 12:22 am, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:
> > I am a big fan of open source, and setting up a Jitsi conference is a
> > solution that I often default too (with a bonus of having the possibility
> > to have easy placeholders, e.g. meet.jit.si/WikimediaSummit
> >
> > best,
> >
> > dj
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter 
> wrote:
> >
> >> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
> >> fine
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE
> >>
> >> but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Yaroslav
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
> >> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> >>> wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd
> decided
> >> to
> >>> attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and
> even
> >>> May meetings might need to go virtual.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> >>> dozen to twenty people?
> >>>
> >>> I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade
> >> ago,
> >>> but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> WSC
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27,  >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
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>  2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra)
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>  Message: 1
>  Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
>  From: Dariusz Jemielniak 
>  To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>  Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
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> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> >>> professional
>  team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5
> >> months
> >>> in
>  the future.
> 
>  It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
>  situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer
> >> where
> >>> we
>  stand.
> 
>  For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is
> >> not
>  shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> >>> down
>  the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
>  prioritizes our safety.
> 
>  I 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open

2020-03-10 Thread effe iets anders
As very practical question for the scholarships: should people be spending
time on the scholarships right now, or would it be fair to postpone the
deadline until a bit after this hard decision has been made?

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 6:27 AM Gnangarra  wrote:

> Kaya Toni and the Community
>
> We are trying to assemble the latest up to date advice we can get, as you
> can imagine thats a very complex task given how wide spread our community
> is and the shifting dynamics of the current situation.   While ESEAP is the
> host for the Wikimania we still need the WMF, its events team, the Board,
> and the Wikimania Committee to agree to what is decided.  I dont wish to
> preempt any outcome and I hope everyone can keep an open mind about what
> lays ahead while we endeavor to provide a more specific answer.
>
> I wish I could give you a more direct answer but for now your patience is
> very much appreciated.
>
> Boodar-wun
> Gnangarra
>
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 19:48, Toni Ristovski 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Gnangarra,
> >
> > On your last email in this thread you mentioned that you will discuss
> > situation with corona virus CoVid-19, regarding upcoming Wikimania. I
> know
> > that nobody have enough information, but following all the news and
> > following recent developments, could you please update us about this
> issue
> > on this thread.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Toni
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:15 PM Ciell Wikipedia <
> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for your response!
> > >
> > > Ciell
> > >
> > > Op wo 26 feb. 2020 12:32 schreef Gnangarra :
> > >
> > > > Hi Ciell
> > > >
> > > > ESEAP team and the WMF are meeting later this week with discussion on
> > > this
> > > > very issue on the agenda. As it stands we have been following the
> > changes
> > > > and recommendations of many countries in relation to travel to
> Thailand
> > > and
> > > > Bangkok.  The WMF  team is also following developments, as you can
> > > imagine
> > > > its a very dynamic situation.  At this stage we are continuing the
> > > > scholarship application process because there isnt the time frame
> > > necessary
> > > > to delay while waiting for further developments occur so we can more
> > > > assured of the necessary measures that will need to be taken.
> > > >
> > > > For people who dont get scholarships, or are already planning to fund
> > > their
> > > > own travel there for once waiting is becoming an advantage as the
> cost
> > of
> > > > travel is dropping and there will be incentives to encourage people
> to
> > > > travel.   Anyone making bookings I recommend you obtain insurance
> that
> > > > covers you for all eventualities especially scenarios related to the
> > > virus.
> > > >
> > > > Community safety is at the absolute forefront of our plans and
> > concerns.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:05, Ciell Wikipedia <
> > ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Gnangarra,
> > > > >
> > > > > With the Corona virus spreading rapidly around the world: can you
> > tell
> > > me
> > > > > (us) something about the scenario for Wikimania when the virus
> would
> > > > still
> > > > > be heavily active in August?
> > > > > People might want to wait a bit longer before applying, or maybe
> want
> > > to
> > > > > know more about cancelling their travels after they have confirmed
> > the
> > > > > scholarship. Will this be possible?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vriendelijke groet,
> > > > > Ciell
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Op do 20 feb. 2020 om 21:46 schreef Gnangarra  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Wikimania is fast approaching, this year it'll be held in Bangkok
> > and
> > > > as
> > > > > > always the Wikimedia Foundation has a limited number of
> > opportunities
> > > > to
> > > > > > assist people to attend. There are two types of scholarships the
> > > first
> > > > > > being a full scholarship which covers, travel, accommodation, and
> > > > > > registration, the second a  partial scholarship that covers
> > > > accommodation
> > > > > > and registration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This year for the first time East, South East Asia, and Pacific
> > > > (ESEAP)
> > > > > as
> > > > > > collaboration between the region we'll be your host for
> Wikimania.
> > > The
> > > > > > region has placed a high importance on collaboration and
> knowledge
> > > > > sharing
> > > > > > this years Wikimania program will reflect that. Our theme is;
> > > > > > *Power of Diverse Collaboration*
> > > > > > *Sharing knowledge brings people together*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How does this impact on scholarship? ESEAP is looking for people
> > who
> > > > are
> > > > > > prepared to share their knowledge to help develop potential
> future
> > > > > > leaders.  We'll be looking for two broad areas of contributions,
> > from
> > > > > those
> > > > > > who have successfully developed programs, and those  newer
> > > contributors
> > > > > who
> > > > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open

2020-03-10 Thread Gnangarra
Kaya Toni and the Community

We are trying to assemble the latest up to date advice we can get, as you
can imagine thats a very complex task given how wide spread our community
is and the shifting dynamics of the current situation.   While ESEAP is the
host for the Wikimania we still need the WMF, its events team, the Board,
and the Wikimania Committee to agree to what is decided.  I dont wish to
preempt any outcome and I hope everyone can keep an open mind about what
lays ahead while we endeavor to provide a more specific answer.

I wish I could give you a more direct answer but for now your patience is
very much appreciated.

Boodar-wun
Gnangarra

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 19:48, Toni Ristovski  wrote:

> Dear Gnangarra,
>
> On your last email in this thread you mentioned that you will discuss
> situation with corona virus CoVid-19, regarding upcoming Wikimania. I know
> that nobody have enough information, but following all the news and
> following recent developments, could you please update us about this issue
> on this thread.
>
> Thank you
> Toni
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:15 PM Ciell Wikipedia  >
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your response!
> >
> > Ciell
> >
> > Op wo 26 feb. 2020 12:32 schreef Gnangarra :
> >
> > > Hi Ciell
> > >
> > > ESEAP team and the WMF are meeting later this week with discussion on
> > this
> > > very issue on the agenda. As it stands we have been following the
> changes
> > > and recommendations of many countries in relation to travel to Thailand
> > and
> > > Bangkok.  The WMF  team is also following developments, as you can
> > imagine
> > > its a very dynamic situation.  At this stage we are continuing the
> > > scholarship application process because there isnt the time frame
> > necessary
> > > to delay while waiting for further developments occur so we can more
> > > assured of the necessary measures that will need to be taken.
> > >
> > > For people who dont get scholarships, or are already planning to fund
> > their
> > > own travel there for once waiting is becoming an advantage as the cost
> of
> > > travel is dropping and there will be incentives to encourage people to
> > > travel.   Anyone making bookings I recommend you obtain insurance that
> > > covers you for all eventualities especially scenarios related to the
> > virus.
> > >
> > > Community safety is at the absolute forefront of our plans and
> concerns.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:05, Ciell Wikipedia <
> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Gnangarra,
> > > >
> > > > With the Corona virus spreading rapidly around the world: can you
> tell
> > me
> > > > (us) something about the scenario for Wikimania when the virus would
> > > still
> > > > be heavily active in August?
> > > > People might want to wait a bit longer before applying, or maybe want
> > to
> > > > know more about cancelling their travels after they have confirmed
> the
> > > > scholarship. Will this be possible?
> > > >
> > > > Vriendelijke groet,
> > > > Ciell
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Op do 20 feb. 2020 om 21:46 schreef Gnangarra :
> > > >
> > > > > Wikimania is fast approaching, this year it'll be held in Bangkok
> and
> > > as
> > > > > always the Wikimedia Foundation has a limited number of
> opportunities
> > > to
> > > > > assist people to attend. There are two types of scholarships the
> > first
> > > > > being a full scholarship which covers, travel, accommodation, and
> > > > > registration, the second a  partial scholarship that covers
> > > accommodation
> > > > > and registration.
> > > > >
> > > > > This year for the first time East, South East Asia, and Pacific
> > > (ESEAP)
> > > > as
> > > > > collaboration between the region we'll be your host for Wikimania.
> > The
> > > > > region has placed a high importance on collaboration and knowledge
> > > > sharing
> > > > > this years Wikimania program will reflect that. Our theme is;
> > > > > *Power of Diverse Collaboration*
> > > > > *Sharing knowledge brings people together*
> > > > >
> > > > > How does this impact on scholarship? ESEAP is looking for people
> who
> > > are
> > > > > prepared to share their knowledge to help develop potential future
> > > > > leaders.  We'll be looking for two broad areas of contributions,
> from
> > > > those
> > > > > who have successfully developed programs, and those  newer
> > contributors
> > > > who
> > > > > want to develop their skills to do more but have never been to a
> > > > Wikimania
> > > > > to broaden their support networks.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you apply please agree to share your details with the local
> > > affiliate
> > > > > should they also have scholarships available. When answering
> > questions
> > > if
> > > > > you have urls to reports, dashboards, and events reports please
> > provide
> > > > > them. Rather than writing lots of words again have your past
> > recordings
> > > > > speak.
> > > > >
> > > > > On behalf of ESEAP community, and the Scholarship 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open

2020-03-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi,

I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a professional
team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months in
the future.

It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where we
stand.

For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not
shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing down
the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
prioritizes our safety.

I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they
are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.

Best,

Dj "pundit"

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
wrote:

> I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are
> far too great.
>
> A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
>
> I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I strongly
> hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this year's
> conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk of
> spreading it to more parts of the world.
>
>
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Rehman
>
> 
> From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> James Heilman 
> Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
>
> From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans and
> have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course in
> healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
>
> James
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Gnangarra,
> >
> > On your last email in this thread you mentioned that you will discuss
> > situation with corona virus CoVid-19, regarding upcoming Wikimania. I
> know
> > that nobody have enough information, but following all the news and
> > following recent developments, could you please update us about this
> issue
> > on this thread.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Toni
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:15 PM Ciell Wikipedia <
> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for your response!
> > >
> > > Ciell
> > >
> > > Op wo 26 feb. 2020 12:32 schreef Gnangarra :
> > >
> > > > Hi Ciell
> > > >
> > > > ESEAP team and the WMF are meeting later this week with discussion on
> > > this
> > > > very issue on the agenda. As it stands we have been following the
> > changes
> > > > and recommendations of many countries in relation to travel to
> Thailand
> > > and
> > > > Bangkok.  The WMF  team is also following developments, as you can
> > > imagine
> > > > its a very dynamic situation.  At this stage we are continuing the
> > > > scholarship application process because there isnt the time frame
> > > necessary
> > > > to delay while waiting for further developments occur so we can more
> > > > assured of the necessary measures that will need to be taken.
> > > >
> > > > For people who dont get scholarships, or are already planning to fund
> > > their
> > > > own travel there for once waiting is becoming an advantage as the
> cost
> > of
> > > > travel is dropping and there will be incentives to encourage people
> to
> > > > travel.   Anyone making bookings I recommend you obtain insurance
> that
> > > > covers you for all eventualities especially scenarios related to the
> > > virus.
> > > >
> > > > Community safety is at the absolute forefront of our plans and
> > concerns.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:05, Ciell Wikipedia <
> > ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Gnangarra,
> > > > >
> > > > > With the Corona virus spreading rapidly around the world: can you
> > tell
> > > me
> > > > > (us) something about the scenario for Wikimania when the virus
> would
> > > > still
> > > > > be heavily active in August?
> > > > > People might want to wait a bit longer before applying, or maybe
> want
> > > to
> > > > > know more about cancelling their travels after they have confirmed
> > the
> > > > > scholarship. Will this be possible?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vriendelijke groet,
> > > > > Ciell
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Op do 20 feb. 2020 om 21:46 schreef Gnangarra  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Wikimania is fast approaching, this year it'll be held in Bangkok
> > and
> > > > as
> > > > > > always the Wikimedia Foundation has a limited number of
> > opportunities
> > > > to
> > > > > > assist people to attend. There are two types of scholarships the
> > > first
> > > > > > being a full scholarship which covers, travel, accommodation, and
> > > > > > registration, the second a  partial scholarship that covers
> > > > accommodation
> > > > > > and registration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This year for the first time East, South East 

[Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided to
attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
May meetings might need to go virtual.

Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
dozen to twenty people?

I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade ago,
but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly

Regards

WSC

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> Hi,
>
> I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a professional
> team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months in
> the future.
>
> It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where we
> stand.
>
> For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not
> shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing down
> the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> prioritizes our safety.
>
> I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they
> are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
>
> Best,
>
> Dj "pundit"
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
> wrote:
>
> > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are
> > far too great.
> >
> > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
> >
> > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I strongly
> > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this year's
> > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk of
> > spreading it to more parts of the world.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> > Rehman
> >
> > 
> > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf of
> > James Heilman 
> > Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> >
> > From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans and
> > have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course in
> > healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski 
> > wrote:
> >
> *
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
fine

https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE

but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.

Best
Yaroslav

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided to
> attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
> May meetings might need to go virtual.
>
> Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> dozen to twenty people?
>
> I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade ago,
> but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
>
> Regards
>
> WSC
>
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, 
> wrote:
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> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
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> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> professional
> > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months
> in
> > the future.
> >
> > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where
> we
> > stand.
> >
> > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not
> > shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> down
> > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> > prioritizes our safety.
> >
> > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they
> > are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Dj "pundit"
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are
> > > far too great.
> > >
> > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> > > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
> > >
> > > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I strongly
> > > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this year's
> > > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk of
> > > spreading it to more parts of the world.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yours truly,
> > >
> > > Rehman
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Wikimedia-l  on behalf
> of
> > > James Heilman 
> > > Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> > >
> > > From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans
> and
> > > have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course in
> > > healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > *
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Gnangarra
See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation on
possible options and available materials, its not perfect and there are
mechanics and costs that individual events need to addressed but hopefully
it'll help as a starting point

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
> fine
>
>
> https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE
>
> but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.
>
> Best
> Yaroslav
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> > wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided
> to
> > attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
> > May meetings might need to go virtual.
> >
> > Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> > dozen to twenty people?
> >
> > I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade
> ago,
> > but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > WSC
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, 
> > wrote:
> >
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> > >2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra)
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> > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
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> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
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> > > cadespguuq96jzaylkajfipv-isfmqvcul8nhm+scbjxagfd...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> > professional
> > > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5
> months
> > in
> > > the future.
> > >
> > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> > > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer
> where
> > we
> > > stand.
> > >
> > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is
> not
> > > shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> > down
> > > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> > > prioritizes our safety.
> > >
> > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that
> they
> > > are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Dj "pundit"
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks
> are
> > > > far too great.
> > > >
> > > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> > > > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
> > > >
> > > > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I
> strongly
> > > > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this
> year's
> > > > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk
> of
> > > > spreading it to more parts of the world.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yours truly,
> > > >
> > > > Rehman
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Wikimedia-l  on
> behalf
> > of
> > > > James Heilman 
> > > > Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> > > >
> > > > From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans
> > and
> > > > have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course
> in
> > > > healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <
> toni91ehrl...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > *
> > >
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[Wikimedia-l] Status of APG and FDC?

2020-03-10 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Hi all,

Does anyone know what the status of the APG process and the FDC is? The
documentation on-wiki seems to be out of date:

   - The APG info page [1] says new applications are not being accepted,
   and there's a bunch of errors in the table.
   - The APG page [2] doesn't make reference to the above statement about
   new applications not being accepted.
   - The FDC page [3] says the terms of all of the members expired in
   either 2018 or 2019, and doesn't make any reference to the above either.

Thanks!

Dan

[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Information
[2]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG
[3]:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Fæ  wrote:

> Separately I prefer Google hangouts for a very bad internet connection
> (under 10 mb/s) which is more forgiving than Zoom or Skype as it seems
> to be better at brown-out conditions. Google hangouts is probably a
> bit easier for the average volunteer to log in to or get running on
> their kit, for example installing Zoom on Ubuntu meant setting things
> up on the command line for me.
>

In my experience Hangouts/Meet is superior to Zoom technically in pretty
much every aspect (saner UI, better A/V quality, less bugs, better handling
of poor connections, also it is just a web page while Zoom's web version is
not really usable). OTOH Zoom has more facilitation features (such as
splitting into subgroups) which might be useful in certain kinds of
meetings.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
I am a big fan of open source, and setting up a Jitsi conference is a
solution that I often default too (with a bonus of having the possibility
to have easy placeholders, e.g. meet.jit.si/WikimediaSummit

best,

dj

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
> fine
>
>
> https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE
>
> but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.
>
> Best
> Yaroslav
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> > wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided
> to
> > attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
> > May meetings might need to go virtual.
> >
> > Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> > dozen to twenty people?
> >
> > I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade
> ago,
> > but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > WSC
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, 
> > wrote:
> >
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> > >2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
> > > From: Dariusz Jemielniak 
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <
> > > cadespguuq96jzaylkajfipv-isfmqvcul8nhm+scbjxagfd...@mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> > professional
> > > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5
> months
> > in
> > > the future.
> > >
> > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> > > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer
> where
> > we
> > > stand.
> > >
> > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is
> not
> > > shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> > down
> > > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> > > prioritizes our safety.
> > >
> > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that
> they
> > > are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Dj "pundit"
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks
> are
> > > > far too great.
> > > >
> > > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> > > > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement.
> > > >
> > > > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I
> strongly
> > > > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this
> year's
> > > > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk
> of
> > > > spreading it to more parts of the world.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yours truly,
> > > >
> > > > Rehman
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Wikimedia-l  on
> behalf
> > of
> > > > James Heilman 
> > > > Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51
> > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
> > > >
> > > > From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans
> > and
> > > > have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course
> in
> > > > healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <
> toni91ehrl...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > *
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

2020-03-10 Thread
I encourage UK wikimedians to test out group meeting tools,
if only to be in a strong position to share experiences and
recommendations with other groups as to the practicalities of
substituting meet ups with virtual events. This is a subject that gets
discussed at *every* Wikimania but there is hardly any progress apart
from streaming videos with very limited virtual chat.

The WM-LGBT+ community has been using Zoom to coordinate the user
group and for the LGBT+ conference with participants using very varied
broadband access, hardware kit, and from many countries. Any
videoconference tool would struggle on a very old laptop, and my old
laptop could not handle it in real time, but modern tablets and mobile
phones can run the version of it quite successfully. We have had up to
8 people in a meeting and you share a text channel as well as having
options for seeing who is speaking or keeping a gallery view on your
screen. Keep in mind that smartphones are specially designed to handle
video conferencing, and normally do an excellent job of it.

Separately I prefer Google hangouts for a very bad internet connection
(under 10 mb/s) which is more forgiving than Zoom or Skype as it seems
to be better at brown-out conditions. Google hangouts is probably a
bit easier for the average volunteer to log in to or get running on
their kit, for example installing Zoom on Ubuntu meant setting things
up on the command line for me.

Fae

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 15:05, Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:
>
> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work
> fine
>
> https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314=359453254254=%2Bzoom%20online%20%2Bmeeting=b=g=c=EAIaIQobChMIsI2o0JaQ6AIVBc13Ch0VxwqZEAAYASAAEgJs0_D_BwE
>
> but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants.
>
> Best
> Yaroslav
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers <
> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not
> > wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided to
> > attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even
> > May meetings might need to go virtual.
> >
> > Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a
> > dozen to twenty people?
> >
> > I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade ago,
> > but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > WSC
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to
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> > >2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra)
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400
> > > From: Dariusz Jemielniak 
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a
> > professional
> > > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months
> > in
> > > the future.
> > >
> > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the
> > > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where
> > we
> > > stand.
> > >
> > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not
> > > shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing
> > down
> > > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly
> > > prioritizes our safety.
> > >
> > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they
> > > are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Dj "pundit"
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are
> > > > far too great.
> > > >
> > > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the
> > > > potential to cause significant damage 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of APG and FDC?

2020-03-10 Thread Michael Peel
As I understand it, the FDC was basically suspended at the start of the 
movement strategy discussions, and hasn’t met since. The funding for affiliates 
was apparently maintained at a constant level during the suspension, and the 
future of the program depends on whatever the movement strategy outcomes are. 
As a former FDC member, it’s a sad situation to see, as the committee was doing 
valuable work that’s been lost due to uncertainty.

Hopefully the current FDC members / WMF staff / WMF board can provide more info 
on this soon...

Thanks,
Mike

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 10:13, Dan Garry (Deskana)  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know what the status of the APG process and the FDC is? The
> documentation on-wiki seems to be out of date:
> 
>   - The APG info page [1] says new applications are not being accepted,
>   and there's a bunch of errors in the table.
>   - The APG page [2] doesn't make reference to the above statement about
>   new applications not being accepted.
>   - The FDC page [3] says the terms of all of the members expired in
>   either 2018 or 2019, and doesn't make any reference to the above either.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan
> 
> [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Information
> [2]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG
> [3]:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee
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[Wikimedia-l] Catalog of Wikimedia video or interactive tutorials

2020-03-10 Thread Pine W
Hello,

Some time ago, I started to gather information regarding existing and
planned tutorials for Wikimedia which are in a video or interactive format.
Initially this information was on Meta in a place which was difficult to
find. I moved the content to
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/NavWiki/External_Resources. I hope that
this will be a helpful starting place for anyone who is looking for
existing or planned tutorial resources. Also, if someone creates or updates
a tutorial, I hope that they will update the information on that page.

The tutorials may cover topics for Wikipedia, Wikidata, and other Wikimedia
projects.

Currently, resources are listed which are in German, Spanish, Serbian,
Hebrew, and English. Also, I believe that the Arabic language tutorials
which are currently listed in the section for unfinished resources have
been completed, and I am planning to reach out to request an update
regarding the status of those resources.

Ever onward,

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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