Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread charles andrès
Dear Jan-Bart,
Unfortunately the exact wordings was I'll point out also that there are zero 
real-world implications for the survey results.

Because we all agree that there is now such thing like a zero real-world impact 
survey, we really hope that the raw results of this survey will be made as 
public as possible (privacy issue), and that in the future , survey including 
question about WMF partners (chapters are not the only ones) will be done since 
the very beginning in collaboration with all the partners involved.

sincerely

Charles


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Le 12 sept. 2012 à 16:14, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org a écrit :

 Hey
 
 So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were 
 not posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys 
 that do not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the 
 results of the previous surveys were used in several discussions (including 
 at a board level) in order to provide more insight….
 
 On the other hand, using these surveys to gain more insight is not the same 
 as using them to hold each other accountable which is sometimes easy to do. 
 Every survey (and questions) has a lots of interpretation magic which can 
 easily lead you astray, but I don't have to tell you (the community) this :)
 
 Jan-Bart
 
 
 On 10 Sep 2012, at 23:01, Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Contrarily to Sue, I do
 think that these surveys (should) have a real-world impact and
 (should) keep us all on our toes, fine tuned to the critisicism, needs
 and wishes of the editors of the WIkimedia projects. As such I expect
 us to make sure that we do get as precise a picture as possible of
 what those are.
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEducator] Scientists, Foundations, Libraries, Universities, and Advocates Unite and Issue New Recommendations to Make Research Freely Available to All Online

2012-09-14 Thread Samuel Klein
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[Forwarding from the Open Society Foundations and SPARC.]


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 12, 2012

CONTACT: Andrea Higginbotham, SPARC, and...@arl.org; 202-296-2296
Amy Weil, Open Society Foundations, aw...@sorosny.org; 212-548-0381

Scientists, Foundations, Libraries, Universities, and Advocates Unite and
Issue New Recommendations to Make Research Freely Available to All Online

WASHINGTON -- In response to the growing demand to make research free and
available to anyone with a computer and an internet connection, a diverse
coalition today issued new guidelines (
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/boai-10-recommendations) that could usher
in huge advances in the sciences, medicine, and health.

The recommendations were developed by leaders of the Open Access movement (
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/participants), which has worked for the
past decade to provide the public with unrestricted, free access
to scholarly research—much of which is publicly funded. Making the
research publicly available to everyone—free of charge and without most
copyright and licensing restrictions—will accelerate scientific research
efforts and allow authors to reach a larger number of readers.

“The reasons to remove restrictions as far as possible are to share
knowledge and accelerate research. Knowledge has always been a public good
in a theoretical sense. Open Access makes it a public good in practice,”
said professor Peter Suber, director of the Open Access Project at
Harvard University and a senior researcher at SPARC (The
Scholarly Publishing and Academic Resources Coalition).

The Open Access recommendations include the development of Open Access
policies in institutions of higher education and in funding
agencies, the open licensing of scholarly works, the development of
infrastructure such as Open Access repositories and creating standards of
professional conduct for Open Access publishing. The recommendations also
establish a new goal of achieving Open Access as the default method for
distributing new peer-reviewed research in every field and in every country
within ten years’ time.

“Science and scholarship are activities funded from the public purse
because society believes they will lead to a better future in terms of our
health, environment, and culture,” said Heather Joseph, executive director
of SPARC. “Anything that maximises the efficacy and efficiency of
research benefits every one of us. Open Access is a major tool in that
quest. These new recommendations will underpin future developments in
communicating the results of research over the next decade.”

Today, Open Access is increasingly recognized as a right rather than an
abstract ideal. The case for rapid implementation of Open Access continues
to grow. Open Access benefits research and researchers; increases the
return to taxpayers on their investment in research; and amplifies the
social value of research, funding agencies, and research institutions.

The Open Access recommendations are the result of a meeting hosted earlier
this year by the Open Society Foundations, on the tenth anniversary of the
landmark Budapest Open Access Initiative (
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/read), which first defined Open Access.

“Foundations rarely have the good fortune to be actively present at the
birth of a world-wide movement that fundamentally changes the rules of
the game and provides immediate benefit to the world,” said István
Rév, director of the Open Society Archives and a member of the Open
Society Foundations Global Board. “This is what happened when the Open
Society Foundations initiated a meeting at the end of 2001 that gave birth
to the Open Access movement.”

###

SPARC (Scholarly Publishing and Academic Resources Coalition), with SPARC
Europe and SPARC Japan, is an international alliance of more than
800 academic and research libraries working to create a more open system of
scholarly communication. SPARC’s advocacy, educational,
and publisher partnership programs encourage expanded dissemination of
research. SPARC is on the Web at http://www.arl.org/sparc.

The Open Society Foundations work to build vibrant and tolerant democracies
whose governments are accountable to their citizens. Working with local
communities in more than 100 countries, the Open Society Foundations
support justice and human rights, freedom of expression, and access to
public health and education. The Open Society Foundations is on the Web at
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Florence Devouard



On 9/12/12 4:14 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:

Hey

So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were not 
posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys that do 
not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the results of the 
previous surveys were used in several discussions (including at a board level) 
in order to provide more insight….



Indeed. I agree. These surveys do have real-world impact, which is why 
we objected to a survey asking people from all over the world how they 
would rate Wikimedia Chapters activities when

1) there is likely no chapter in their country
2) they may have no idea that a wikimedia chapter is for example 
Wikimedia Washington DC or Wikimedia Israel
3) all chapters are collectively considered regardless of individual 
differences


And since you comment on that specific sentence

I'll point out also that there are zero real-world implications for the 
survey results.


I'd like to clarify that these exact words come from Sue herself in an 
email sent on the 10th of September on internal-l.


I am glad to read that you disagree with that statement and recognize 
that there is real-world impact.



(did not want to comment any further on that problematic survey, but 
wanted to attribute statement properly)



Flo



On the other hand, using these surveys to gain more insight is not the same as using them 
to hold each other accountable which is sometimes easy to do. Every survey 
(and questions) has a lots of interpretation magic which can easily lead you astray, but 
I don't have to tell you (the community) this :)




Jan-Bart


On 10 Sep 2012, at 23:01, Delphine Ménard 
notafishz-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:


Contrarily to Sue, I do
think that these surveys (should) have a real-world impact and
(should) keep us all on our toes, fine tuned to the critisicism, needs
and wishes of the editors of the WIkimedia projects. As such I expect
us to make sure that we do get as precise a picture as possible of
what those are.


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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia UK report, August 2012

2012-09-14 Thread Stevie Benton
Hello everyone,

I'm writing to let you know that our report for August 2012 is now
published. You can see the report
herehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2012/August
.

This month's report includes updates on education and expert outreach,
communications, GLAM, fundraising, membership and other activities. There's
also a special report from the National Eisteddfod, Wales's primary
cultural event, where we had a presence for the first time. You can view
that report 
herehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Visit_report_-_National_Eisteddfod_8_Aug_2012
.

Thanks and regards,

Stevie

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Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
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(who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Jan-bart de Vreede
Hey

So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the zero 
real-world thing is taken out of context here. But a few points

1) Lets not have these discussions on internal-l, there is no reason to not 
have those in public
2) See 1)
3) I am sure that the data set allows us to see chapter's individual responses, 
depending on whether or not we know the country (I would figure we do?)
4) Doesn't every survey contain questions that don't apply to the whole 
responding audience?

Jan-Bart




On 14 sep. 2012, at 17:05, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 
 On 9/12/12 4:14 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:
 Hey
 
 So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were 
 not posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys 
 that do not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the 
 results of the previous surveys were used in several discussions (including 
 at a board level) in order to provide more insight….
 
 
 Indeed. I agree. These surveys do have real-world impact, which is why we 
 objected to a survey asking people from all over the world how they would 
 rate Wikimedia Chapters activities when
 1) there is likely no chapter in their country
 2) they may have no idea that a wikimedia chapter is for example Wikimedia 
 Washington DC or Wikimedia Israel
 3) all chapters are collectively considered regardless of individual 
 differences
 
 And since you comment on that specific sentence
 
 I'll point out also that there are zero real-world implications for the 
 survey results.
 
 I'd like to clarify that these exact words come from Sue herself in an email 
 sent on the 10th of September on internal-l.
 
 I am glad to read that you disagree with that statement and recognize that 
 there is real-world impact.
 
 
 (did not want to comment any further on that problematic survey, but wanted 
 to attribute statement properly)
 
 
 Flo
 
 
 On the other hand, using these surveys to gain more insight is not the same 
 as using them to hold each other accountable which is sometimes easy to 
 do. Every survey (and questions) has a lots of interpretation magic which 
 can easily lead you astray, but I don't have to tell you (the community) 
 this :)
 
 
 Jan-Bart
 
 
 On 10 Sep 2012, at 23:01, Delphine Ménard 
 notafishz-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
 
 Contrarily to Sue, I do
 think that these surveys (should) have a real-world impact and
 (should) keep us all on our toes, fine tuned to the critisicism, needs
 and wishes of the editors of the WIkimedia projects. As such I expect
 us to make sure that we do get as precise a picture as possible of
 what those are.
 
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[Wikimedia-l] IPv4 close to end of road for RIPE,

2012-09-14 Thread FT2
General info for anyone who wants.

Not that new, announced imminent a week ago or so. (Also apparently not the
first, APNIC hit this point last year)


http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/last-8-phases

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/9543870/Internet-IPv4-address-system-hits-its-limit.html

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2012/09/ripe-warn-eu-and-uk-supply-of-ipv4-internet-addresses-to-run-out-next-month.html


Availability graph:
http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph


FT2
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Mobile site banner to promote the WLM App

2012-09-14 Thread Philip Chang
FYI

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Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Subject: Mobile site banner to promote the WLM App
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition 
wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org


Dear WLM Members,

As of yesterday, a banner promoting the WLM Android App has appeared on all
pages of the WIkipedia mobile site and the sister projects, on Android
devices only. This banner can be closed easily by the user, and won't
appear again until the user clears the data of his/her browser.

To summarize, the banner:

- appears on the mobile site only
- appears on Android devices only
- appears on all pages in all languages
- can be closed easily and persistently
- is being localized
- links to the app on Google Play

We are tracking downloads of the app to see what impact this makes.

To all of you who considered putting the banner on your WIkipedia main
page, this removes the need for making the manual change. I believe there
were no cases where this was actually done, but if it was, the banner would
appear twice on the main page, so the manual version can be removed.

Thank you for your support.

Phil

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-14 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 03:21:55PM +0200, Alice Wiegand wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following
 statement about the travel guide RfC
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide :


What are the next steps? Will the foundation first wait for all
lawsuits to resolve, or will they start with working on providing the
servers? What's the current time-frame?

sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Mobile site banner to promote the WLM App

2012-09-14 Thread Andrew Gray
I was surprised to see this appear earlier today! It'll be interesting to
see the results...

Are there any plans to put a banner in the Android app as well as the
mobile site? A large number of users have switched, so the mobile site will
only get a portion of the Android traffic.

Andrew.
On 14 Sep 2012 19:02, Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 FYI

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM
 Subject: Mobile site banner to promote the WLM App
 To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition 
 wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org


 Dear WLM Members,

 As of yesterday, a banner promoting the WLM Android App has appeared on all
 pages of the WIkipedia mobile site and the sister projects, on Android
 devices only. This banner can be closed easily by the user, and won't
 appear again until the user clears the data of his/her browser.

 To summarize, the banner:

 - appears on the mobile site only
 - appears on Android devices only
 - appears on all pages in all languages
 - can be closed easily and persistently
 - is being localized
 - links to the app on Google Play

 We are tracking downloads of the app to see what impact this makes.

 To all of you who considered putting the banner on your WIkipedia main
 page, this removes the need for making the manual change. I believe there
 were no cases where this was actually done, but if it was, the banner would
 appear twice on the main page, so the manual version can be removed.

 Thank you for your support.

 Phil

 --
 Phil Inje Chang
 Product Manager, Mobile
 Wikimedia Foundation
 415-812-0854 m
 415-882-7982 x 6810




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Frédéric Schütz

On 14/09/12 18:08, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote:


4) Doesn't every survey contain questions that don't apply to the whole 
responding audience?


No, because the answer would not be terribly useful. In all surveys I 
have seen in my work life [statistics work -- I don't design much 
surveys myself, but reply to a lot of them from different horizons :-], 
this does never happen.


Typically, the filtering for a question about chapters would be 
something like this (simplified and written quickly):


1) Do you know any organization active within the Wikimedia movement ?
(free text fields allow people to enter names)

2) This page contain a list of organizations active within the Wikimedia 
movement; please tick all the ones you know (even if you have only heard 
the name)


(a list follows, with maybe WMF, Local chapters in general, and a 
list of individual chapters)


3) People are then asked to rate and/or comment each entity that was 
mentioned under (1) or (2).


This way, not only do we avoid having people give their opinion on a 
topic they've never heard about, but we also get two different levels of 
knowledge on the topic (either the user knew it well enough to list the 
name, or he had to be reminded).


Frédéric

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