Re: [Wikimedia-l] Creating Wikikultur
The scope of Wikibooks could be expanded to include essays, poems, novels, etc. and not only pedagogical content (especially that we have Wikiversity who also focus on pedagogic stuff). JP Le 27 nov. 2012 10:37, "Mathieu Stumpf" a écrit : > > Hello, I just added this proposition : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikultur > > Here is the summary : > Currently there are still some digital works which can not be published on a wikimedia projects, because none of them have the right editorial guideline to host them. Things like original poetry, songs, essays, theses, novels, etc., wether they were already previously published or not. > > It would be great to see wikimedia launch a project to host this kind of works. > > The no original research for wikipedia is understable and very important of course. Now what's relevant for an encyclopedia may not fit others projects which need different editorial guidelines. In existing projects Wikibooks is too pedagogic works oriented, and wikisource won't accept works which were not previously published elsewhere. > > Moreover, one may argue that it would be a good way to softly evacuate originals works from wikipedia, with a message like "your contribution contains original claims, wikipedia is not the place to publish this kind of content, but you could share your original work on wikikultur". Then eventualy, the wikipedia article could use wikikultur arcticles as references. This would give access to authoring information (eventually anonymous/IP claims), and all avantages of a free/libre work on a wiki. For example, we may have statistics on articles, so we can check if it's not used as a reference of an over represented point of view in an wikipedia article. > > On artistics topics, I think it would really help to boost the free-libre culture movement to have a place where every artists can directly experiment what it means to share and build together, with an audience intertwinned with other mediawiki projects. > > > > It looks like other proposed projects would be included in such a project, like Wikiessay (I just discovered and I'm gonna read others projects description, sorry), but others aspect don't seem - at first glance - to be covered, like artistics topics. > > Kind regards, > mathieu > > -- > Association Culture-Libre > http://www.culture-libre.org/ > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM Subject: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year? To: map...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, it's been a long time coming, but we're finally gearing up for putting some development effort into an OSM tileservice running in production to serve Wikimedia sites. This is being driven by the mobile team but obviously has lots of non-mobile use cases as well, including the recent Wikivoyage addition to the Wikimedia familiy. This work will probably not kick off before January/February 2013; before then, the mobile team is working to finish up the GeoData extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Geodata ). To get broader community involvement and sync up with existing volunteer efforts in this area, it'd IMO be useful to plan a face-to-face meetup/hackfest just focused on geodata/mapping related development work sometime around Feb/March 2013. WMF is not going to organize this, but we can help sponsor travel and bring the key developers from our side who will work on this. Are there any takers for supporting a 20-30 people development event in Europe focused on mapping/geodata? I'm suggesting Europe because I know quite a few of the relevant folks are there, but am open to other options as well. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser launch update
Thanks! 2012/11/27 Zack Exley > One more thing I should have mentioned: We'll still be testing from time to > time around the world during the rest of November and December. So don't be > alarmed if you see banners up. We're still actively trying to improve > donation processing and translations everywhere. > > So far this has been going really well. I know that in some ways the > banners seem more agressive this year. (But they are only 90-120px tall on > most screens, vs 172px last year!) But we're on track to having a radically > shorter fundraiser. > > We're also hoping to experiment with turning banners off for people after > they've seen them a certain number of times (probably 5 times). If we can > do that without slowing down the fundraiser, we'll make that a new feature > of the campaign. > > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Zack Exley wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > We have some information on the fundraiser launch to share. We are still > > planning on launching Monday, November 26, but we're going to make a > change > > this year in the timing of campaigns around the world. > > > > Every year, as we get closer to the launch date, we test more frequently > > and discover new messages and designs that make the fundraiser much more > > efficient (i.e. more money per day, shorter fundraiser, fewer and/or > > smaller banners). > > > > In the past couple weeks, we've discovered some new designs and messages > > that we believe will let us shorten the fundraiser by a lot -- *and* make > > the banners much smaller than they've typically been. > > > > But we don't have time to adapt these to all the countries and languages > > in the world right away. This has pushed us to do something we've known > is > > the right thing to do for some time. > > > > We're going to run this end of year campaign only in 5 countries (US, CA, > > GB, AU & NZ) and then spend three months meticulously localizing and > > translating (and testing for new purely local messages) before running > the > > global campaign in all other counties, in which our best messages and > > designs developed in December will be used across the world. > > > > We will use the time over the next month to run short tests of various > > messages and payment options in other languages and countries in > > preparation for the global campaign that we'll run in April. So people > in > > the five-country campaign will still only see a campaign once a year (in > > December). And people in all other countries will still only see a > > campaign once a year (in April). > > > > *Everyone, everywhere will only see one campaign per year* -- unless they > > happen to travel from, say, the US in December to India in April. > > > > We're excited about breaking the campaign up for several reasons. Over > > the next month, we will be able to focus on testing and finding the best > > messages. The new "Facts" banners have opened up more testing > possibilites > > for us, and we'll learn a lot about our messages in the next month, while > > we can test 24 hours per day. We'll use the lessons learned from the > > December five-country campaign and spend the next three months applying > > them correctly and testing multiple versions in other languages and > > countries. > > > > What we've learned over the past few years is that the same messages tend > > to win all over the world. But that translating short, colloquial > > fundraising messages takes a long time and many translators to get right. > > And we're finding a new "best" message basically every day. We don't > think > > it's good if only English readers are getting our best messages. > > > > So overall, we think we'll be able to run both the English banners and > the > > multilingual banners better by breaking up the campaign. > > > > Our volunteer translators have already done a ton of work translating our > > current best messages -- and we are very thankful! We're using all of > those > > translations now, in our testing and they will be the basis of the April > > campaign. We will be engaging the community of volunteers, donors and > > readers even more in the coming months to optimize the translations of > the > > new messages and ramp up testing in various languages. Moreover, there > are > > technical updates to the translation system that we'll be able to use > > during the April campaign that are not released yet. > > > > We are looking forward to more of our readers receiving better messages > > and donation experiences in countries around the world. > > > > More info to come! Instead of replying to this thread, please comment on > > the Fundraiser 2012 meta discussion page: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2012 > > > > Zack & Megan, > > WMF fundraising > > > > > > -- > Zack Exley > Chief Revenue Officer > Wikimedia Foundation > 415 506 9225 > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Techdirt: Apparently All That Stuff About Needing SOPA To Go After Foreign Sites Was Bogus
On 27 November 2012 21:21, ??? wrote: > Techdirt, and its commentards, are as usual is full of crap. Taking down an > OZ, or EU based site is one thing. Taking down some .cn or .ru another thing > all together. Also we just love bank robbers? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Techdirt: Apparently All That Stuff About Needing SOPA To Go After Foreign Sites Was Bogus
On 27/11/2012 20:26, David Gerard wrote: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/17190821152/apparently-all-that-stuff-about-needing-sopa-to-go-after-foreign-sites-was-bogus.shtml "Tim covered the story of ICE doing its annual censorship binge in seizing domain names without adversarial hearings (as we still believe is required under the law). However, there were a couple of additional points worthy of a followup. First off, if you remember, one of the key reasons why we were told SOPA was needed was that for all of ICE's previous domain takedowns it was "impossible" for it to take down foreign domains. Except... as ICE's own announcement here shows that was completely untrue. It seems to have had no difficulty finding willing law enforcement partners around the globe to seize websites without any due process [...] Apparently it's possible for ICE to censor those sites if it actually does a little work and calls up its law enforcement pals." Techdirt, and its commentards, are as usual is full of crap. Taking down an OZ, or EU based site is one thing. Taking down some .cn or .ru another thing all together. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Techdirt: Apparently All That Stuff About Needing SOPA To Go After Foreign Sites Was Bogus
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/17190821152/apparently-all-that-stuff-about-needing-sopa-to-go-after-foreign-sites-was-bogus.shtml "Tim covered the story of ICE doing its annual censorship binge in seizing domain names without adversarial hearings (as we still believe is required under the law). However, there were a couple of additional points worthy of a followup. First off, if you remember, one of the key reasons why we were told SOPA was needed was that for all of ICE's previous domain takedowns it was "impossible" for it to take down foreign domains. Except... as ICE's own announcement here shows that was completely untrue. It seems to have had no difficulty finding willing law enforcement partners around the globe to seize websites without any due process [...] Apparently it's possible for ICE to censor those sites if it actually does a little work and calls up its law enforcement pals." - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) The Wikimedia Foundation launches ninth annual fundraiser to support Wikipedia and free knowledge
(also posted online at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_announces_2012_fundraiser) The Wikimedia Foundation launches ninth annual fundraiser to support Wikipedia and free knowledge SAN FRANCISCO, November 27, 2012 - The Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that operates Wikipedia and its sister projects, today announced the launch of its ninth annual fundraising campaign. The online fundraiser aims to raise $25 million, while the remainder of the Wikimedia Foundation’s funding will come from foundation grants and donations given outside the annual campaign. The annual Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser brings in the resources needed to keep the Wikimedia projects freely available to everyone around the world in their own language, and guarantees that Wikipedia will never have to rely on advertising. Donations help the Wikimedia Foundation maintain server infrastructure, support global projects to increase the number of editors, improve and simplify the software that supports our projects, and make Wikipedia accessible globally to billions of people who are just beginning to access the internet. “Our fundraiser succeeds the same way Wikipedia does, with millions of people contributing what they can so we can keep the site freely available for everyone around the world,” said Sue Gardner, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation. “People tell me they donate to Wikipedia because they find it useful, and they trust it because they know it's written for them. Our readers fund the site, which keeps us independent and able to deliver what they need and want from Wikipedia--exactly as it should be.” During the 2011 fundraiser, more than 1.1 million people donated an average of $30 from nearly every country on the planet, and banners and fundraising messages were translated into over 100 languages by more than 1,000 volunteers. The 2012 campaign will build on the success of previous years and will run through the end of this year. To make a donation, click the banners at the top of Wikipedia, or go directly to donate.wikimedia.org. Wikipedians in the 2012 fundraiser The 2012 campaign will showcase stories from Wikimedia editors, photographers and free-knowledge advocates from around the world who contribute to Wikimedia projects. Poongothai Balasubramanian, a retired math teacher from India, has created 250 articles on quadratic functions, probability, charts, graphs, and has recorded pronunciations for 6,000 words in Tamil, her native language. “I'm a volunteer. No one pays me. But helping edit Wikipedia has become my life's work,” she said. “Even though I'm not in the classroom, I'm still doing what I care about most: helping a new generation of students learn, in the language I love.” (photo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balasubramanian_Poongothai-365.jpg Andrea Zanni, a Wikimedia Italy chapter member and digital librarian who contributes public domain and freely-licensed texts to Wikisource, said his experience with the Wikimedia movement has facilitated his self-expression and shaped his life. “Wikipedia is one of the few things that really enables people to be useful, to have an impact with a little effort,” he said. “Wikipedia is really empowering. It’s really a framework of good faith, of good will.” (photo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Andrea_Zanni-7090.jpg) Ravan Jaafar Altaie, a Wikipedian from Iraq who writes about Leonardo da Vinci and the moons of Jupiter, tells her story of contributing to Arabic Wikipedia and influencing hundreds of thousands of people through articles she’s written. “This is my wish and one of my dreams to make a real change in the world. I think Wikipedia gave me this chance to make a huge difference in this world,” she said. “It's like an investment for your future, for your children's future.” (photo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ravan_Jaafar_Altaie-106.jpg) Ken Thomas, a photographer from North Carolina, donates his photos to Wikimedia Commons under the CC0 public domain license. “Putting a photo on Wikipedia is an act of generosity,” he said. “I don’t own the bird. I don’t own the light. I don’t own the tree branch that the bird was sitting on. I take these pictures because I want people to see how beautiful these things are. Who am I to charge for that?” (photo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KenThomas-27527-1.jpg) Erlan Vega, an English teacher from La Paz, Bolivia, said he improved his English competency and earned international certifications because of his experience editing Wiktionary and collaborating with English speaking Wikipedians. “In my education system, people don’t usually write or create,” he said. “Giving me the opportunity to be creative and to be recognized for something I write has really been a turning point in my life.” (photo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Erlan_Vega-264.jpg) About the Wikimedia Foundation http://wikimediafoundation.org http://blog.w
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser launch update
One more thing I should have mentioned: We'll still be testing from time to time around the world during the rest of November and December. So don't be alarmed if you see banners up. We're still actively trying to improve donation processing and translations everywhere. So far this has been going really well. I know that in some ways the banners seem more agressive this year. (But they are only 90-120px tall on most screens, vs 172px last year!) But we're on track to having a radically shorter fundraiser. We're also hoping to experiment with turning banners off for people after they've seen them a certain number of times (probably 5 times). If we can do that without slowing down the fundraiser, we'll make that a new feature of the campaign. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Zack Exley wrote: > Hi all, > > We have some information on the fundraiser launch to share. We are still > planning on launching Monday, November 26, but we're going to make a change > this year in the timing of campaigns around the world. > > Every year, as we get closer to the launch date, we test more frequently > and discover new messages and designs that make the fundraiser much more > efficient (i.e. more money per day, shorter fundraiser, fewer and/or > smaller banners). > > In the past couple weeks, we've discovered some new designs and messages > that we believe will let us shorten the fundraiser by a lot -- *and* make > the banners much smaller than they've typically been. > > But we don't have time to adapt these to all the countries and languages > in the world right away. This has pushed us to do something we've known is > the right thing to do for some time. > > We're going to run this end of year campaign only in 5 countries (US, CA, > GB, AU & NZ) and then spend three months meticulously localizing and > translating (and testing for new purely local messages) before running the > global campaign in all other counties, in which our best messages and > designs developed in December will be used across the world. > > We will use the time over the next month to run short tests of various > messages and payment options in other languages and countries in > preparation for the global campaign that we'll run in April. So people in > the five-country campaign will still only see a campaign once a year (in > December). And people in all other countries will still only see a > campaign once a year (in April). > > *Everyone, everywhere will only see one campaign per year* -- unless they > happen to travel from, say, the US in December to India in April. > > We're excited about breaking the campaign up for several reasons. Over > the next month, we will be able to focus on testing and finding the best > messages. The new "Facts" banners have opened up more testing possibilites > for us, and we'll learn a lot about our messages in the next month, while > we can test 24 hours per day. We'll use the lessons learned from the > December five-country campaign and spend the next three months applying > them correctly and testing multiple versions in other languages and > countries. > > What we've learned over the past few years is that the same messages tend > to win all over the world. But that translating short, colloquial > fundraising messages takes a long time and many translators to get right. > And we're finding a new "best" message basically every day. We don't think > it's good if only English readers are getting our best messages. > > So overall, we think we'll be able to run both the English banners and the > multilingual banners better by breaking up the campaign. > > Our volunteer translators have already done a ton of work translating our > current best messages -- and we are very thankful! We're using all of those > translations now, in our testing and they will be the basis of the April > campaign. We will be engaging the community of volunteers, donors and > readers even more in the coming months to optimize the translations of the > new messages and ramp up testing in various languages. Moreover, there are > technical updates to the translation system that we'll be able to use > during the April campaign that are not released yet. > > We are looking forward to more of our readers receiving better messages > and donation experiences in countries around the world. > > More info to come! Instead of replying to this thread, please comment on > the Fundraiser 2012 meta discussion page: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2012 > > Zack & Megan, > WMF fundraising > -- Zack Exley Chief Revenue Officer Wikimedia Foundation 415 506 9225 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser launch update
It's hard to predict, but yes, Thomas's numbers are probably about right. This year, to be cautious, we'll err on the side of raising more from these 5 countries. But if the April campaign is very efficient (money per banner impression) then we'll be able to balance the distribution better in 2013-14. Zack On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 November 2012 15:06, Lodewijk wrote: > > Thanks for the announcement. I'm curious how it will work out. > > > > Would it be possible to give a ballpark figure on what percentage of what > > amount you're expecting/aiming to collect in these five countries in this > > month, and how much in the rest of the world? I mean, do you expect to > > raise 10%, 40%, 70% or 90% of the whole movement budget? (I know I could > > probably look up last years numbers and guess some myself, but you > probably > > already did this :) ). > > You can find last year's numbers here: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/report#Top_10_Countries_Donating_to_Wikimedia_Movement_.28to_WMF_or_Local_Chapter.29 > > The US, Canada, UK and Australia (New Zealand didn't make the top 10, > although the numbers will be in the Google spreadsheet linked from > that page if you want them) raised 58% of the total (including money > raised by chapters). Germany, France and Switzerland, who will also be > fundraising over the winter as far as I know, raised 23%. That leaves > 19% from countries that will have the later fundraiser (minus a little > for NZ). Hopefully it will be more this year, since the fundraising > team will be able to focus on them. > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Zack Exley Chief Revenue Officer Wikimedia Foundation 415 506 9225 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Creating Wikikultur
Hello, I just added this proposition : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikultur Here is the summary : Currently there are still some digital works which can not be published on a wikimedia projects, because none of them have the right editorial guideline to host them. Things like original poetry, songs, essays, theses, novels, etc., wether they were already previously published or not. It would be great to see wikimedia launch a project to host this kind of works. The no original research for wikipedia is understable and very important of course. Now what's relevant for an encyclopedia may not fit others projects which need different editorial guidelines. In existing projects Wikibooks is too pedagogic works oriented, and wikisource won't accept works which were not previously published elsewhere. Moreover, one may argue that it would be a good way to softly evacuate originals works from wikipedia, with a message like "your contribution contains original claims, wikipedia is not the place to publish this kind of content, but you could share your original work on wikikultur". Then eventualy, the wikipedia article could use wikikultur arcticles as references. This would give access to authoring information (eventually anonymous/IP claims), and all avantages of a free/libre work on a wiki. For example, we may have statistics on articles, so we can check if it's not used as a reference of an over represented point of view in an wikipedia article. On artistics topics, I think it would really help to boost the free-libre culture movement to have a place where every artists can directly experiment what it means to share and build together, with an audience intertwinned with other mediawiki projects. It looks like other proposed projects would be included in such a project, like Wikiessay (I just discovered and I'm gonna read others projects description, sorry), but others aspect don't seem - at first glance - to be covered, like artistics topics. Kind regards, mathieu -- Association Culture-Libre http://www.culture-libre.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser launch update
On 27 November 2012 15:06, Lodewijk wrote: > Thanks for the announcement. I'm curious how it will work out. > > Would it be possible to give a ballpark figure on what percentage of what > amount you're expecting/aiming to collect in these five countries in this > month, and how much in the rest of the world? I mean, do you expect to > raise 10%, 40%, 70% or 90% of the whole movement budget? (I know I could > probably look up last years numbers and guess some myself, but you probably > already did this :) ). You can find last year's numbers here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/report#Top_10_Countries_Donating_to_Wikimedia_Movement_.28to_WMF_or_Local_Chapter.29 The US, Canada, UK and Australia (New Zealand didn't make the top 10, although the numbers will be in the Google spreadsheet linked from that page if you want them) raised 58% of the total (including money raised by chapters). Germany, France and Switzerland, who will also be fundraising over the winter as far as I know, raised 23%. That leaves 19% from countries that will have the later fundraiser (minus a little for NZ). Hopefully it will be more this year, since the fundraising team will be able to focus on them. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser launch update
Thanks for the announcement. I'm curious how it will work out. Would it be possible to give a ballpark figure on what percentage of what amount you're expecting/aiming to collect in these five countries in this month, and how much in the rest of the world? I mean, do you expect to raise 10%, 40%, 70% or 90% of the whole movement budget? (I know I could probably look up last years numbers and guess some myself, but you probably already did this :) ). Best, Lodewijk 2012/11/26 Zack Exley > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Thomas Dalton >wrote: > > > On Nov 26, 2012 5:15 PM, "Nathan" wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Zack Exley > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This year we did something different and went up all over the world > for > > 24 > > > > hours on Nov 15 as sort of a dress rehearsal. That really helped us > to > > > > identify a lot of little things to fix. It also brought in two > million > > > > dollars -- our biggest day ever, by far. That gave us the confidence > to > > > > launch much later this year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one-off days perform much better than individual days during a long > > > campaign, have you considered exchanging a 1-2 month drive for a > > > series of one or two day drives, spaced throughout the year? I don't > > > really know if that would be easier on you, raise more money or be > > > better for readers, but it's something to consider. > > > > I was thinking the same thing. My understanding is that the main reason > for > > a concentrated fundraising drive is that repetition is an important part > of > > convincing people to donate. If it is true that tests bring in the same > as > > the main drive, then apparently repetition isn't important for us, so > > perhaps there isn't much point in have a drive. > > > > After this fundraiser we can make some recommendations about how many days > we'd have to fundraiser if we spread it out and see what opinions are out > there. I think some may like keeping it to one focused time per year. But I > do think it would be fewer days overall if we spread it out. > > We don't have any evidence that fundraising builds the longer we have the > banners up. That idea probably comes from several years back when we ran > weak messages to "warm up" before breaking out with the strongest messages. > But then we learned that the strong messages were even stronger when we > started with them. In fact, the power of fundraising banners drops every > day they're up. Then every day there are no banners their power charges > back up. > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > -- > Zack Exley > Chief Revenue Officer > Wikimedia Foundation > 415 506 9225 > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
