Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Asia Pacific Clean Energy Summit Media Attendance Request

2013-09-06 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi, Why send personal information to a public list? Do you want all your requests denied in the Future? This is not a smart move if you are still hoping to get a press pass. Huib Op zaterdag 7 september 2013 schreef James Salsman (jsals...@gmail.com): > Hi Bill, > > I just left you a voicemai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
Sorry, not dreaming. I am used to do these sort of things. Part of my daily work. Regards, Lars Gardenius Von: Fred Bauder An: Lars Gardenius CC: Wikimedia Mailing List Gesendet: 0:46 Samstag, 7.September 2013 Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's sa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Forgery and Wikiality

2013-09-06 Thread Anna Koval
Thanks for sharing this. Food for thought, indeed. You can read the entire article in your public library's periodicals database. :) Here's a link to the full-text from SFPL (barcode and pin required): http://go.galegroup.com.ezproxy.sfpl.org/ps/i.do?id=GALE%7CA340806608&v=2.1&u=sfpl_main&it=r&p

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Asia Pacific Clean Energy Summit Media Attendance Request

2013-09-06 Thread James Salsman
Hi Bill, I just left you a voicemail asking for temporary freelance volunteer accreditation to cover the APCE summit next week at the convention center. I am a Wikipedia editor with over seven years of experience focusing on sustainable energy and transportation solutions, e.g., as the primary au

[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with FDC staff for Annual Plan Grants to the FDC

2013-09-06 Thread Katy Love
Greetings, Wikimedians! For those of you curious about upcoming FDC proposal deadlines and with questions about proposal content, I am pleased to announce two sets of IRC chats (two sessions each) with FDC staff. The first set of IRC office hours will focus on the proposal process and upcoming mi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Steven Zhang
On 7 Sep 2013, at 8:14 am, Lars Gardenius wrote: > Sorry, but I didn't say that everone, but me, is wrong. > > I said that I believe that you are wrong concerning this question. > > Regards, > Lars Gardenius > Fair enough. I have to agree with the comments made by Marc Pelletier before. I re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Forgery and Wikiality

2013-09-06 Thread Matthew Roth
mea culpa, given that the article is behind a paywall, I shouldn't share it. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > I have the pdf of the article if anyone wants it. Email me offlist and > I'll send it to you. > > Matthew > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Sep 6, 2013 6:01 PM, "Steven Zhang" wrote: > > You are entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with it, and I don't feel you should say that everyone is wrong but yourself. Cheerio. > > Steve > > Sent from my iPhone When replying to mailing list posts, you should quote what you're replying to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
> The persons > who still attack are often mentally instable and easy to track and report > to the police. > > Regards, > lars Gardenius Dream on... One point is correct; you WILL have something to report to the police. Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
Sorry, but that has nothing to do whether you are a reliable and trustworthy person in the society (outside of the Wikis). I think you must understand that if you want to have a committe or ombudsman or whatever you want to call it these persons must be visible in the normal society. That is th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
Sorry, but I didn't say that everone, but me, is wrong. I said that I believe that you are wrong concerning this question. Regards, Lars Gardenius Von: Steven Zhang An: Lars Gardenius ; Wikimedia Mailing List CC: Wikimedia Mailing List ; "fredb...@fairpo

[Wikimedia-l] Forgery and Wikiality

2013-09-06 Thread Newyorkbrad
(cross-posted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Newyorkbrad/Newyorkbradblog#Forgery_and_Wikiality ) FORGERY AND WIKIALITY We've all read about people manipulating their, or their friends' (or worse their enemies') biographies on Wikipedia. We also all heard about people molding Wikipedia to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
Well that is because you are not forced to register your real name and address before starting an account in the Wikis. Of course you can still use a pseudonym while working, but the org. would know who the users are. While diminish the will to mob, abuse, and vandalise tremendously when your tr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Steven Zhang
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with it, and I don't feel you should say that everyone is wrong but yourself. Cheerio. Steve Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Sep 2013, at 3:30 am, Lars Gardenius wrote: > > No, I don't believe you are right. > > The problem is the construction of th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Forgery and Wikiality

2013-09-06 Thread Matthew Roth
I have the pdf of the article if anyone wants it. Email me offlist and I'll send it to you. Matthew On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > (cross-posted from > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Newyorkbrad/Newyorkbradblog#Forgery_and_Wikiality > ) > > FORGERY AND WIKIALITY > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
Well not using your real name if your handling arbitration is I think out of the question, anywhere in the world but the Wikis. Regards, Lars Gardenius Von: Keegan Peterzell An: Fred Bauder ; Wikimedia Mailing List Gesendet: 20:22 Freitag, 6.September 201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
> Well not using your real name if your handling arbitration is I think out > of the question, anywhere in the world but the Wikis. > > Regards, > Lars Gardenius We have discovered that users who are thwarted in using aggressive behavior to control content will go after people who use their real n

[Wikimedia-l] WMMX August 2013 report

2013-09-06 Thread Salvador A
Dear members of Wikimedia community: On behalf of Wikimedia Mexico's board and volunteers is my pleasure to make public our first monthly report of activities in english. This one include the activities done during the past month of August: https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Informes/Agosto_2013/en W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
As said it was only an example. And a very small part of my argumentation. You must however understand that the average user has no reason to feel the way you do and he has no possibilty to know who these persons are. Regards, Lars Gardenius Von: Fred Bauder

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMMX August 2013 report

2013-09-06 Thread Sarah Stierch
Thank you for translating into English. I really appreciate it and I am sure I am not the only one. -Sarah (who needs to work on her Spanish) On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Salvador A wrote: > Dear members of Wikimedia community: > > On behalf of Wikimedia Mexico's board and volunteers is my

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 35 -- 04 September 2013

2013-09-06 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
In the media: Manning "put back in the closet"; State involvement in Azerbaijani Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-09-04/In_the_media News and notes: Privacy policy debate gears up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-09-04/News_and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
> As said it was only an example. And a very small part of my > argumentation. > > You must however understand that the average user has no reason to feel > the way you do and he has no possibilty to know who these persons are. > > Regards, > > Lars Gardenius Someone like NulearWarfare has made te

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-06 Thread rupert THURNER
What should not be missed out in the discussion is the fact that blog post according to current guidelines should be written on the wiki. Additionally accounts are not integrated. Operations is afraid of spikes, and spam. So why not just use the best platform we all know for this, and where the pos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-06 Thread Matthew Roth
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > What should not be missed out in the discussion is the fact that blog post > according to current guidelines should be written on the wiki. We started drafting blog posts on Meta to encourage transparency and make it easier to translate th

[Wikimedia-l] Introducing the round 2 IEG Committee

2013-09-06 Thread Siko Bouterse
Hi all, It is my pleasure to announce the round 2 Individual Engagement Grants Committee.[1][2] With the 7 new members we added this week, the committee now brings experience and advice to IEG from 13 countries, 10 languages and 8 Wikimedia projects. New members: Achim Raschka Ailura Anne Delong

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > You see, that's the difference, when I see NuclearWarfare I think tried > trusted and true; he has a long track record on Wikipedia, whatever his > real name is. By the way, the actual identity of all arbitrators, > oversighters, etc are verif

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
No, I don't believe you are right. The problem is the construction of these Arbitration Committe and the mediation process. You can no build that on volunteers, who are anonymous (like "NuclearWarfare") and not accountable. You need to recruit people who are educated and trained to handle these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
You see, that's the difference, when I see NuclearWarfare I think tried trusted and true; he has a long track record on Wikipedia, whatever his real name is. By the way, the actual identity of all arbitrators, oversighters, etc are verified by the Foundation. Fred > > > The Arbitration Committe i

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia engineering August 2013 report

2013-09-06 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in August 2013 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/August Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/09/06/engineering-august-2013-report/ We're also proposing a shorter, simp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-06 Thread Lars Gardenius
The Arbitration Committe is a step in the right direction. I was probably never informed about it because it is only available for a small number of Wikis, and I speak about Wikis in general (including the Swedish Wikipedia). The Committe is obviously alive and kicking in the English Wikipedia.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 06/09/2013 15:22: On 6 September 2013 14:19, MZMcBride wrote: This seems to focus on blog editors, but not blog visitors. If I visit wordpress.com, I see that my Web browser deflects Google Analytics, KissMetrics, Quantcast, and WordPress Stats. If I visit wordpress.org, I see tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 September 2013 14:19, MZMcBride wrote: > This seems to focus on blog editors, but not blog visitors. If I visit > wordpress.com, I see that my Web browser deflects Google Analytics, > KissMetrics, Quantcast, and WordPress Stats. If I visit wordpress.org, I > see that my browser deflects Goog

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-06 Thread MZMcBride
Matthew: thank you very much for writing up this detailed explanation. Matthew Roth wrote: >As a general concept, we’re redesigning the blog to be less focused on the >Wikimedia Foundation and more on the Wikimedia movement. For the past >year, we have been sharing more narratives from the movemen