Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares
Hoi, Take one step back. What our aim is, is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Arguably, this is the main and overriding objective of what we do. There are many strategies to get to the point where we share information. From where I stand, with Wikidata we have the opportunity to do better than with an only Wikipedia strategy: with Wikipedia we share the sum of knowledge that is available in one Wikipedia and with Wikidata we share in the sum of all the knowledge that is available to us. Wikidata provides access to more information than any Wikipedia by a large margin. There are those in our communities who aim to restrict the practices that realise Wikidata as the resource of information that is available to us. To say it in a political correct way, they can be and should be ignored. There are organisations that want to share information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share information under a CC-by license. The later can and should be ignored as well. However, when I am to argue these points in a private setting, I will say that they can screw themselves. It is to make the point forcefully, it is to hammer on the fact that our objective is not the community but the sharing of knowledge. Yes, the community is important but that is the extend of it. When we can gain authoritative information provided by a GLAM, we should not consider the fact that we can enter all that information by hand. Those who want to add statements by hand can do so but they should not force their behaviour and attitudes on others. Thanks, GerardM On 8 April 2014 00:45, Hubert Laska hubert.la...@gmx.at wrote: With all due respect, Gerard, not the bearer ofthe message, Tomas, is the problem, the problem arises where there are people who can make decisions with far-reaching consequences - and be selected for it - but then assume one for me unacceptable position against that group whose services are the basis for their own position. Fuck the Community, who cares, was not the only thing, much worse for me is the meaning, that free knowledge is easier to buy than to get by edits and edits. Of whose money? By those who make one edit after the other? Taking photos, one after another and upload them? I know Steffen good enough and I know, that he is able to tell apart explanations which happens within an special group dynamic process. If this has occured, he would not have written this in his blog. h Am 07.04.2014 12:52, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, What is it that you intend to do. Hang them and, hang them high?? You already know that it was in a very emotional moment ... What is your objective? What do you expect as a result and how will that be in everyone's benefit?? Thanks, Gerard On 7 April 2014 12:16, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Ziko van Dijk wrote I think that a single quote by a unnamed female Wikimedian, said in public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate criticism... Thanks to Chris e-mail's, we now know that the comment was made during a public session (though I can't find the relevant section in the minutes on Meta). That the identity of the person is currently unknown is due to the fact that it has not been revealed by other participants in that workshop; I'm sure Chris, and Steffen, and other people know very well who that person is. I'm used to the secrecy, but I find it deeply disturbing that such a comment could have been made during a public workshop in passing; however, it would fit perfectly in the alleged divisions between some chapters and their respective communities. Where the idea that a single entity (here: a chapter) knows better what's best for a community than the community does itself come from, I'm not sure. Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board Wikimedia Nederland
Congratulations all new board member. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Likewise! Thank you, Frans and all. Sam On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Frans, Congratulations on your new role and I wish you and your team of boardmembers all the best, Jane 2014-04-07 22:26 GMT+02:00, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl: It is with great pleasure that I present to you the new board of Wikimedia Netherlands (WMNL). During our General Assembly of March 29, 2014 the following persons were elected for a new term of 1 year. - Ronn Boef - new Board member - Jan Anton Brouwer - Treasurer, board member since 2013 - Justus de Bruijn - new Board member - André Engels - Secretary of the Board, new Board member - Frans Grijzenhout - Chair, Secretary since 2013, Board member since 2012 - Ad Huikeshoven - Board member since 2012 - Marlon Thé - new Board member André en Ronn have been active Wikipedians for a long time and we are glad that they are willing to serve the community in a different role. Justus and Marlon are new to the Wikimedia community but both have a track record in serving volunteer organizations. The general meeting gave a warm applause to the two board members that stepped down after serving the community for many years: Ziko van Dijk, Board member and Chair since 2011 and Paul Becherer, who served as Secretary of the Board and as Treasurer since 2010. They have led the Dutch chapter in an outstanding way during turbulent years. Frans Grijzenhout -- *Frans Grijzenhout*, chair fr...@wikimedia.nl +31 6 5333 9499 Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://www.wikimedia.nl/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board Wikimedia Nederland
Hi, It is the season for new boards apparently :) Frans: congratulations on the new challenge and looking forward to seeing you in Berlin. As always: thanks to all those who volunteer their time to serve on the board! Jan-Bart On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:26, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl wrote: It is with great pleasure that I present to you the new board of Wikimedia Netherlands (WMNL). During our General Assembly of March 29, 2014 the following persons were elected for a new term of 1 year. - Ronn Boef - new Board member - Jan Anton Brouwer - Treasurer, board member since 2013 - Justus de Bruijn - new Board member - André Engels - Secretary of the Board, new Board member - Frans Grijzenhout - Chair, Secretary since 2013, Board member since 2012 - Ad Huikeshoven - Board member since 2012 - Marlon Thé - new Board member André en Ronn have been active Wikipedians for a long time and we are glad that they are willing to serve the community in a different role. Justus and Marlon are new to the Wikimedia community but both have a track record in serving volunteer organizations. The general meeting gave a warm applause to the two board members that stepped down after serving the community for many years: Ziko van Dijk, Board member and Chair since 2011 and Paul Becherer, who served as Secretary of the Board and as Treasurer since 2010. They have led the Dutch chapter in an outstanding way during turbulent years. Frans Grijzenhout -- *Frans Grijzenhout*, chair fr...@wikimedia.nl +31 6 5333 9499 Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://www.wikimedia.nl/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board Wikimedia Nederland
Congrats and best wishes to the new Board! And a heartfelt thank you to Ziko and Paul for your long lasting commitment. Alice. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.com wrote: Congratulations all new board member. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Likewise! Thank you, Frans and all. Sam On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Frans, Congratulations on your new role and I wish you and your team of boardmembers all the best, Jane 2014-04-07 22:26 GMT+02:00, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl: It is with great pleasure that I present to you the new board of Wikimedia Netherlands (WMNL). During our General Assembly of March 29, 2014 the following persons were elected for a new term of 1 year. - Ronn Boef - new Board member - Jan Anton Brouwer - Treasurer, board member since 2013 - Justus de Bruijn - new Board member - André Engels - Secretary of the Board, new Board member - Frans Grijzenhout - Chair, Secretary since 2013, Board member since 2012 - Ad Huikeshoven - Board member since 2012 - Marlon Thé - new Board member André en Ronn have been active Wikipedians for a long time and we are glad that they are willing to serve the community in a different role. Justus and Marlon are new to the Wikimedia community but both have a track record in serving volunteer organizations. The general meeting gave a warm applause to the two board members that stepped down after serving the community for many years: Ziko van Dijk, Board member and Chair since 2011 and Paul Becherer, who served as Secretary of the Board and as Treasurer since 2010. They have led the Dutch chapter in an outstanding way during turbulent years. Frans Grijzenhout -- *Frans Grijzenhout*, chair fr...@wikimedia.nl +31 6 5333 9499 Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://www.wikimedia.nl/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Alice Wiegand Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares
Gerard, I think you mean There are organisations that want to share CC-0 information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share CC-0 information under a CC-by license. We are fine with organizations sharing CC-by information under a CC-by license, no? O and I agree completely on the Wikidata thing. Jane PS: I also agree that the person who said these words is, in fact a member of the community like the rest of us and therefore has every right to use those words in a meeting during which community issues are being discussed. I have heard worse in discussions by members of one part of the community (Commons people) talking about other members of the community (Dutch Wikipedians) and the other way around. Maybe it's a cultural thing and we swear a lot in our internal meetups in the Netherlands, dunno about that, but I never felt offended when I heard these statements and in context have agreed with both parties. 2014-04-08 8:22 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Take one step back. What our aim is, is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Arguably, this is the main and overriding objective of what we do. There are many strategies to get to the point where we share information. From where I stand, with Wikidata we have the opportunity to do better than with an only Wikipedia strategy: with Wikipedia we share the sum of knowledge that is available in one Wikipedia and with Wikidata we share in the sum of all the knowledge that is available to us. Wikidata provides access to more information than any Wikipedia by a large margin. There are those in our communities who aim to restrict the practices that realise Wikidata as the resource of information that is available to us. To say it in a political correct way, they can be and should be ignored. There are organisations that want to share information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share information under a CC-by license. The later can and should be ignored as well. However, when I am to argue these points in a private setting, I will say that they can screw themselves. It is to make the point forcefully, it is to hammer on the fact that our objective is not the community but the sharing of knowledge. Yes, the community is important but that is the extend of it. When we can gain authoritative information provided by a GLAM, we should not consider the fact that we can enter all that information by hand. Those who want to add statements by hand can do so but they should not force their behaviour and attitudes on others. Thanks, GerardM On 8 April 2014 00:45, Hubert Laska hubert.la...@gmx.at wrote: With all due respect, Gerard, not the bearer ofthe message, Tomas, is the problem, the problem arises where there are people who can make decisions with far-reaching consequences - and be selected for it - but then assume one for me unacceptable position against that group whose services are the basis for their own position. Fuck the Community, who cares, was not the only thing, much worse for me is the meaning, that free knowledge is easier to buy than to get by edits and edits. Of whose money? By those who make one edit after the other? Taking photos, one after another and upload them? I know Steffen good enough and I know, that he is able to tell apart explanations which happens within an special group dynamic process. If this has occured, he would not have written this in his blog. h Am 07.04.2014 12:52, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, What is it that you intend to do. Hang them and, hang them high?? You already know that it was in a very emotional moment ... What is your objective? What do you expect as a result and how will that be in everyone's benefit?? Thanks, Gerard On 7 April 2014 12:16, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Ziko van Dijk wrote I think that a single quote by a unnamed female Wikimedian, said in public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate criticism... Thanks to Chris e-mail's, we now know that the comment was made during a public session (though I can't find the relevant section in the minutes on Meta). That the identity of the person is currently unknown is due to the fact that it has not been revealed by other participants in that workshop; I'm sure Chris, and Steffen, and other people know very well who that person is. I'm used to the secrecy, but I find it deeply disturbing that such a comment could have been made during a public workshop in passing; however, it would fit perfectly in the alleged divisions between some chapters and their respective communities. Where the idea that a single entity (here: a chapter) knows better what's best for a community than the community does itself come from, I'm not sure. Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares
Ziko van Dijk wrote: I think that a single quote by a unnamed female Wikimedian, said in public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate criticism... I've said fuck the community a fair few times. And fuck the foundation and fuck chapter [name]. Generally, all of them under my breath and without being reported on in the Signpost. In fact, this whole thread is making me say things like “why the hell am I still subscribed to this increasingly pointless mailing list?” Storms in teacups, mountains out of molehills, wikidramas out of off-the-cuff remarks. Is there not an encyclopedia that needs editing? -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares
Hoi, From where I stand ie Wikidata, the license we use is CC-0. When a GLAM wants to share data it has to be CC-0. When it is CC-by or CC-by-sa, we cannot use it. We do not retrieve it from their database we will find the same data from elsewhere where there is no such burden. When people use CC-by-sa data in for instance Wikipedia, we do harvest that information because once it is embedded in Wikipedia, it is no longer part of the original database that prohibits us from using it based on the database rights. At that point it is part of a completely different set of information. It is retrieved one factoid at a time and the origin of the data is no longer an issue. Thanks, GerardM On 8 April 2014 10:40, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, I think you mean There are organisations that want to share CC-0 information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share CC-0 information under a CC-by license. We are fine with organizations sharing CC-by information under a CC-by license, no? O and I agree completely on the Wikidata thing. Jane PS: I also agree that the person who said these words is, in fact a member of the community like the rest of us and therefore has every right to use those words in a meeting during which community issues are being discussed. I have heard worse in discussions by members of one part of the community (Commons people) talking about other members of the community (Dutch Wikipedians) and the other way around. Maybe it's a cultural thing and we swear a lot in our internal meetups in the Netherlands, dunno about that, but I never felt offended when I heard these statements and in context have agreed with both parties. 2014-04-08 8:22 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Take one step back. What our aim is, is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Arguably, this is the main and overriding objective of what we do. There are many strategies to get to the point where we share information. From where I stand, with Wikidata we have the opportunity to do better than with an only Wikipedia strategy: with Wikipedia we share the sum of knowledge that is available in one Wikipedia and with Wikidata we share in the sum of all the knowledge that is available to us. Wikidata provides access to more information than any Wikipedia by a large margin. There are those in our communities who aim to restrict the practices that realise Wikidata as the resource of information that is available to us. To say it in a political correct way, they can be and should be ignored. There are organisations that want to share information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share information under a CC-by license. The later can and should be ignored as well. However, when I am to argue these points in a private setting, I will say that they can screw themselves. It is to make the point forcefully, it is to hammer on the fact that our objective is not the community but the sharing of knowledge. Yes, the community is important but that is the extend of it. When we can gain authoritative information provided by a GLAM, we should not consider the fact that we can enter all that information by hand. Those who want to add statements by hand can do so but they should not force their behaviour and attitudes on others. Thanks, GerardM On 8 April 2014 00:45, Hubert Laska hubert.la...@gmx.at wrote: With all due respect, Gerard, not the bearer ofthe message, Tomas, is the problem, the problem arises where there are people who can make decisions with far-reaching consequences - and be selected for it - but then assume one for me unacceptable position against that group whose services are the basis for their own position. Fuck the Community, who cares, was not the only thing, much worse for me is the meaning, that free knowledge is easier to buy than to get by edits and edits. Of whose money? By those who make one edit after the other? Taking photos, one after another and upload them? I know Steffen good enough and I know, that he is able to tell apart explanations which happens within an special group dynamic process. If this has occured, he would not have written this in his blog. h Am 07.04.2014 12:52, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, What is it that you intend to do. Hang them and, hang them high?? You already know that it was in a very emotional moment ... What is your objective? What do you expect as a result and how will that be in everyone's benefit?? Thanks, Gerard On 7 April 2014 12:16, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Ziko van Dijk wrote I think that a single quote by a unnamed female Wikimedian, said in public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate criticism... Thanks to Chris e-mail's, we now
[Wikimedia-l] The aim of the movement
Hi Gerard, thanks for pointing this out. This is just the question I mentioned on my blogpost. You say the main thing is to share in the sum of all knowledge, no matter how. I say the main thing is to support the communities doing this. These are the opposite opinions I mentioned - and we should discuss this in a very wide way. And that's why I cited the mission of the foundation in my blogpost, with the first sentence *Our mission is to empower a global volunteer community to collect and develop the world's knowledge and to make it available to everyone for free, for any purpose.* Empower the community is stated there as the main thing, and not share in the sum of all knowledge. That's why I think this question is not answered yet, and I want to find an answer for WMDE at least. Best, Steffen 2014-04-08 8:22 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Take one step back. What our aim is, is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Arguably, this is the main and overriding objective of what we do. There are many strategies to get to the point where we share information. From where I stand, with Wikidata we have the opportunity to do better than with an only Wikipedia strategy: with Wikipedia we share the sum of knowledge that is available in one Wikipedia and with Wikidata we share in the sum of all the knowledge that is available to us. Wikidata provides access to more information than any Wikipedia by a large margin. There are those in our communities who aim to restrict the practices that realise Wikidata as the resource of information that is available to us. To say it in a political correct way, they can be and should be ignored. There are organisations that want to share information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share information under a CC-by license. The later can and should be ignored as well. However, when I am to argue these points in a private setting, I will say that they can screw themselves. It is to make the point forcefully, it is to hammer on the fact that our objective is not the community but the sharing of knowledge. Yes, the community is important but that is the extend of it. When we can gain authoritative information provided by a GLAM, we should not consider the fact that we can enter all that information by hand. Those who want to add statements by hand can do so but they should not force their behaviour and attitudes on others. Thanks, GerardM ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announce] WMMX's assembly and new Board
¡Felicitaciones, Wikimedia México! 2014-03-26 5:39 GMT-03:00 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com: El martes, 25 de marzo de 2014, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com escribió: 2014-03-24 8:33 GMT+01:00 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com javascript:; : As results of that assembly we have a new board which is definitive and will serve two years, that is, till March 2016. [...] Hahaha. Have you heard the expression stay with me, I want to be alone? This is related. Seriously, what I mean is that our Board is not pro tempore anymore. Wish us good luck in this new stage as chapter as we hope you have the same in your projects. Complimenti e buona fortuna :) Thank you! :) C ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Salvador Alcántar* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The aim of the movement
Steffen Prößdorf, 08/04/2014 11:25: And that's why I cited the mission of the foundation in my blogpost, with the first sentence *Our mission is to empower a global volunteer community to collect and develop the world's knowledge and to make it available to everyone for free, for any purpose.* The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is, by definition, only a subset of the mission of the Wikimedia movement. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement I think the topic you're bringing up is the aim of the movement's organisations and groups. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares
Hoi, One reason is that the license of Wikidata is questioned by members of the Wikidata community. Thanks, GerardM On 8 April 2014 11:27, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, From where I stand ie Wikidata, the license we use is CC-0. When a GLAM wants to share data it has to be CC-0. When it is CC-by or CC-by-sa, we cannot use it. We do not retrieve it from their database we will find the same data from elsewhere where there is no such burden. When people use CC-by-sa data in for instance Wikipedia, we do harvest that information because once it is embedded in Wikipedia, it is no longer part of the original database that prohibits us from using it based on the database rights. At that point it is part of a completely different set of information. It is retrieved one factoid at a time and the origin of the data is no longer an issue. Thanks, GerardM Why are we talking about the license of Wikidata in this thread? Come to think of it, why are we still talking at all in this thread? On 8 April 2014 10:40, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, I think you mean There are organisations that want to share CC-0 information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share CC-0 information under a CC-by license. We are fine with organizations sharing CC-by information under a CC-by license, no? O and I agree completely on the Wikidata thing. Jane PS: I also agree that the person who said these words is, in fact a member of the community like the rest of us and therefore has every right to use those words in a meeting during which community issues are being discussed. I have heard worse in discussions by members of one part of the community (Commons people) talking about other members of the community (Dutch Wikipedians) and the other way around. Maybe it's a cultural thing and we swear a lot in our internal meetups in the Netherlands, dunno about that, but I never felt offended when I heard these statements and in context have agreed with both parties. 2014-04-08 8:22 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com : Hoi, Take one step back. What our aim is, is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Arguably, this is the main and overriding objective of what we do. There are many strategies to get to the point where we share information. From where I stand, with Wikidata we have the opportunity to do better than with an only Wikipedia strategy: with Wikipedia we share the sum of knowledge that is available in one Wikipedia and with Wikidata we share in the sum of all the knowledge that is available to us. Wikidata provides access to more information than any Wikipedia by a large margin. There are those in our communities who aim to restrict the practices that realise Wikidata as the resource of information that is available to us. To say it in a political correct way, they can be and should be ignored. There are organisations that want to share information with us under a CC-0 license and there are those who want to share information under a CC-by license. The later can and should be ignored as well. However, when I am to argue these points in a private setting, I will say that they can screw themselves. It is to make the point forcefully, it is to hammer on the fact that our objective is not the community but the sharing of knowledge. Yes, the community is important but that is the extend of it. When we can gain authoritative information provided by a GLAM, we should not consider the fact that we can enter all that information by hand. Those who want to add statements by hand can do so but they should not force their behaviour and attitudes on others. Thanks, GerardM On 8 April 2014 00:45, Hubert Laska hubert.la...@gmx.at wrote: With all due respect, Gerard, not the bearer ofthe message, Tomas, is the problem, the problem arises where there are people who can make decisions with far-reaching consequences - and be selected for it - but then assume one for me unacceptable position against that group whose services are the basis for their own position. Fuck the Community, who cares, was not the only thing, much worse for me is the meaning, that free knowledge is easier to buy than to get by edits and edits. Of whose money? By those who make one edit after the other? Taking photos, one after another and upload them? I know Steffen good enough and I know, that he is able to tell apart explanations which happens within an special group dynamic process. If this has occured, he would not have written
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding
Pete Forsyth wrote: I also published a response to the WMF report: http://wikistrategies.net/belfer1/ This is an absolutely fantastic blog post, and a must-read for anyone interested in making sure this... controversy never happens again. Thanks so much for taking the time to post that, Pete. Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF FDC Proposal: we invite your participation
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:46 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Pete Forsyth wrote: ... there are very good reasons to be cautious about how much and what kind of advocacy the Wikimedia Foundation engages in, but by and large, the reasons are not *legal* ones. They're related to our vision, our mission, our strategic plan, and our model of community governance. Any new set of potential advocacy topics based on no editor growth instead of exponential editor growth should be reviewed for legality, compatibility with vision and mission, but not strategy or governance, because choices made for those topics are necessarily influenced by the volunteer growth rate. Thereby circular dependency in reasoning can be avoided. If someone implies that some of them are illegal or incompatible with vision or mission without saying which ones or why, then I generally don't take them seriously. People have had plenty of time to raise specific objections for specific reasons, and over time the extent to which they have or have not becomes significant. And I agree with James Alexander's concern about spreading effort too thin, which is why I've been trying to encourage ranking the combined set at http://www.allourideas.org/wmfcsdraft which has been picking up a little lately. Interesting. What is it supposed to measure? If it is supposed to measure what the Wikimedia community thinks the WMF should prioritize, it got me fooled, and is potentially very misleading. When first looking at it I thought it was about what I find more important. Those are to very distinct things. It may not be measuring what you think it's measuring. So I hope the Foundation will survey an accurately representative cross-section of volunteers to find their relative preferences on a set of advocacy topics which assumes no editor growth instead of exponential editor growth. Any such survey would have design trade-offs involving how much to weigh preferences by volunteer effort, and I very much want to move on to that topic, except for the fact that it should be possible to collect that data and decide later by looking at how different rankings turn out. Which may be the only way to do it, because I can't figure out how to decide how much more important someone's opinion should be if they've made thousands of edits compared to someone who's made a dozen. I will raise that question on wiki-research-l when I come up with something that feels like a reasonable answer two it, or a week or two if I can't. But again, the Foundation can do this and should do it. Luckily community volunteers can do it to, so if there is ever any question about fraud or misconduct, that can be audited by the community, which is what open collaborative editing is supposed to be about. Best regards, James Salsman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Please join the community review of 4 FDC funding requests: review 2013-2014 Round 2 proposals by 30 April
* Greetings to all on this list! We are very excited to announce that four proposals for annual plan grants have been submitted on 1 April as part of the FDC process in 2013-2014 Round 2, and are now open for community review until 30 April 2014[1]: The Centre for Internet and Society[2] is requesting the equivalent of US$297,831. Wikimédia France[3] is requesting the equivalent of US$826,062. Wikimedia Norge[4] is requesting the equivalent of US$432,060. Wikimedia Foundation[5] has submitted its annual plan for review, with no dollar amount attached. We encourage you all to read the proposal forms[6] and comment on the proposal form discussion pages during the community review period. Please also spread the word to other community members not on this list who may be interested in commenting on these proposals; while the proposals are in English, community members can comment in any language of their choice. During this period of community review between 1 April and 30 April, participating organizations are encouraged to respond promptly to questions from the community. Questions and feedback received during this period will be considered by the FDC during their deliberations as a key input into the proposal process. Please comment by 30 April to make sure your input can be considered during the deliberations! Please note that the WMF Board of Trustees determined in November 2013 that CIS would be considered eligible for the FDC process during this round[7]. In addition, the Wikimedia Foundation is not submitting a dollar amount with its proposal; the reasons for this are detailed in the FAQ section included in WMF's proposal[8]. This is an important opportunity for the community to comment on WMF's entire annual plan and budget for the upcoming year. After the community review period closes on 30 April, staff assessments of each proposal will be published on 8 May, before the FDC meets to discuss these proposals between 21 May and 25 May in order to make a recommendation to the WMF Board of Trustees by 1 June. Finally, the WMF Board of Trustees will make a final decision about the proposals by 1 July. Please visit the community review page linked below to learn more about the process, and how you can make the most of your participation! Reviewing these proposals is no easy task, but your input is highly valued by the FDC and everyone participating in the proposal process. Please reach out to the FDC support team with any questions or concerns about the community review period or the proposal process by Emailing us at fdcsupp...@wikimedia.org fdcsupp...@wikimedia.org. Thank you in advance for your attention to these proposals! Best regards, Winifred Olliff (on behalf of the FDC support team) 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/Community/Review https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/Community/Review* *2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form* * 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Proposal_form https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Proposal_form 4. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Norge/Proposal_form https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Norge/Proposal_form5. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form6. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals 7. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:FDC_recognition_for_the_Centre_for_the_Internet_and_Society https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:FDC_recognition_for_the_Centre_for_the_Internet_and_Society 8. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form#FAQ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_form#FAQ * -- Winifred Olliff FDC Support Team Wikimedia Foundation ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
[Wikimedia-l] Amical Wikimedia Report, March 2014
Dear fellows, The following message is just to keep you informed about the activities developed in March by Amical Wikimedia. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia/March_2014 Kind regards, David Parreño Mont User:Davidpar Communications, Amical Wikimedia *Source:* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia/March_2014 GLAM-WIKI - 28th January to 14th April -- Il·lustraciència Award from Associació Catalana de Comunicació Científica (Catalan Asociation of Science Comunication) give to the participants the option to accept Wikimedia Commons upload of their artworks. Post in the blog 12th february[1]. - 4th March - 2013 GLAMWIKI project report presentation to Barcelona Music Museum board and 2014 planning meeting. Kippelboy Marionaaragay - 4th March - 2014 planning meeting with Cosmocaixa, biggest science museum in Barcelona Kippelboy. - 13th March -- Opening of the exhibition *Haver fet un lloc on els artistes tinguin dret a equivocar-se* in Barcelona's Fundació Joan Miró. The exhibition includes QRpedia codes in all displayed artworks and wikimedians' work has been credited in the exhibition catalogue. ESM Kippelboy - 15th March -- Women Edit-a-thon in Palafrugell. Organitzed together with Palafrugell Local Archive. Arnaugir and Anskar - 21th March - International Poetry Day. Recording Catalan celebrities talking for the voice into project[2] and reading Public Domain Poetry[3]. Kippelboy, KRLS Beusson Education - 3rd March -- Editing workshop to Journalism undergraduate students from Blanquerna, Ramon Llull University. Kippelboy, Davidpar - 5th March -- 2nd editing workshop to Journalism undergraduate students from Blanquerna, Ramon Llull University. Kippelboy. - 11th March -- GLAMWIKI, Creative Commons and Wikipedia lecture to Digital Humanities students of the International University of Catalonia (International Students from all around the world) Kippelboy. - 13th March -- Editing workshop to Art History undergraduate students from Universitat de Lleida (2nd term of Viquiprojecte:Història de l'Art UdL[4]). ESM - 20-25th of March: Wikimedia Commons course to Master in photography students of University Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona Kippelboy - 26 March- Meeting with Floor from the Wikimedia Foundation. Amical joins the Edu-Cooperative project. Kippelboy - 27 March- GLAMwiki workshop for Catalan Librarians in Cambrils. Kippelboy - 28 March- GLAMwiki meeting with the Vice Dean of the Faculty of Philology (University of Barcelona) about the Viquiclàssics[5] project. Marionaaragay - WikiArS: - March 4th -- Meeting at Nacional Arqueological Museum of Tarragona with Museum curators and four students from School of Art that are in intership with Amical. See the assignments here[6]. Lluis_tgn Other - 6th March: Press Presentation of the new version of Language Tool: Style Grammar tool done by Softcatalà. - 8th March: Workshop for Marrecs de Salt, *castellers* from Salt. Arnaugir - 9th March: Meeting with the Tech department of the Fundació La Caixa, to talk about open knowledge and Open Licenses - 13th March: Meeting with the Councillor of Women Rights and Social Equality of the Town Council of Barcelona, to talk about wikiwomen projects. - 20th March: *Wikipedia and Generalitat*: Session about Openknowledge and OpengGov to public servers (175 attendees) (short video[7]) Kippelboy - 31 March: Meeting with French wikimedians in Céret to organise a project for intercultural sharing in Oct/nov 2014. Organization - Scolarships for Catalan Wikimedians to go to Wikimania 2014[8] are announced. Amical will offer 10 scolarships of EURO 350 each. - March 6th: Chapters Dialogue[9] interview. Arnaugir - March 19th: meeting with Catalan Summer University to prepare editing workshop for August in Prades. Arnaugir - March 27th: Museu Víctor Balaguer receives an Award for its GLAMWIKI project by the Catalan Association of Museum Proffessionals. Media - 2nd March: *30 minuts* report Viquipedistes[10] released on Catalan public TV on primetime. - 8th March: Interview to Dvdgmz at Ràdio Premià. - 11th March: Viquiprojecte Unió Europea: know your own backyard[11], Wikimedia Blog - Catalan Culture Challenge coverage: VilaWeb, El Periódico, Racó Català, Nació Digital. Davidpar [1] http://www.wikimedia.cat/2014/02/12/il%C2%B7lustraciencia-convida-als-participants-a-alliberar-la-seva-obra-a-wikimedia-commons/ [2] https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:La_veu_%C3%A9s_lliure [3] https://ca.wikisource.org/wiki/Viquitexts:Dia_de_la_poesia [4] https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:Hist%C3%B2ria_de_l%27Art_UdL/Art_i_societat [5] https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:Viquicl%C3%A0ssics [6] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiArS_assignments_with_EADT [7]
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announce] WMMX's assembly and new Board
congratulations for really existing now :) it feels like you have been around already for a long time ;-) 2014-04-08 11:59 GMT+02:00 Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com: ¡Felicitaciones, Wikimedia México! 2014-03-26 5:39 GMT-03:00 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com: El martes, 25 de marzo de 2014, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com escribió: 2014-03-24 8:33 GMT+01:00 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com javascript:; : As results of that assembly we have a new board which is definitive and will serve two years, that is, till March 2016. [...] Hahaha. Have you heard the expression stay with me, I want to be alone? This is related. Seriously, what I mean is that our Board is not pro tempore anymore. Wish us good luck in this new stage as chapter as we hope you have the same in your projects. Complimenti e buona fortuna :) Thank you! :) C ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Salvador Alcántar* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] neologisms
What does productize mean in the context of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Growth_Quarterly_Review_(February_2014).pdf ? Where did the idea that services need to be turned into products come from? Where is the learning patterns library mentioned at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Grantmaking/April_2014 ? If there are 34 learning patterns at present, how many are expected going forward? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] neologisms
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:35 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: What does productize mean in the context of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Growth_Quarterly_Review_(February_2014).pdf ? Sorry for the jargon. We try to avoid tech industry terminology in public communication but sometimes when we publish an internal document it slips out. Wiktionary defines productize as make something a commericial product.[1] Productization is defined as The act of modifying something, such as a concept or a tool internal to an organization, to make it suitable as a commercial product.[2] Remove the commercial part of that, which implies selling, and it basically applies. In software development and in the Wikimedia context, it basically means to take something that is an experimental concept and make it a permanent part of the site for users -- whether that's readers, editors or donors depends on the software in question. The word product is used not to strictly clarify that something is not a service. On the Web, the line between products and services is decidedly fuzzy, at least when you talk to people who work in the tech industry. In reality people when people say a product they really just mean a thing people use or buy. 1. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/productize 2. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/productization ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] neologisms
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:35 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: ... Where is the learning patterns library mentioned at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Grantmaking/April_2014 ? At https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library - which was actually linked at the first occurrence of the therm. There is a blog post with a fuller explanation here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/11/19/learning-patterns-new-way-share-important-lessons/ In general, please be aware that these quarterly review minutes are live notes from internal meetings which are provided, only slightly edited, on an as-is basis for transparency reasons - rather than purposefully crafted as an accessible documentation about a topic. As the note on top says: Consider referring to the presentation slides, blog posts, press releases and other official material. I am certainly trying to add explanatory links and include parenthetical remarks as I go along, such as I did in the above case (and it's great to know that you and other people are actually reading them and can benefit from such links, that makes it worthwhile adding them). But it's a lightweight editorial effort. If the goal was to ensure that those minutes - and the slides - are as accessible as say, a blog post about the topic or a documentation page on Meta, it would require much more time. -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] OpenSSL vulnerability
I'm cross-posting this email from Wikitech-l from Greg Grossmeier. I think wide distribution is appropriate especially for contributors who may use vulnerable off-wiki communication tools with their Wikimedia password or for Wikimedia activity. -- Yesterday a widespread issue in OpenSSL was disclosed that would allow attackers to gain access to privileged information on any site running a vulnerable version of that software. Unfortunately, all Wikimedia Foundation hosted wikis are potentially affected. We have no evidence of any actual compromise to our systems or our users information, but as a precautionary measure we are resetting all user session tokens. In other words, we will be forcing all logged in users to re-login (ie: we are logging everyone out). All logged in users send a secret session token with each request to the site and if a nefarious person were able to intercept that token they could impersonate other users. Resetting the tokens for all users will have the benefit of making all users reconnect to our servers using the updated and fixed version of the OpenSSL software, thus removing this potential attack. As an extra precaution, we recommend all users change their passwords as well. Again, there has been no evidence that Wikimedia Foundation users were targeted by this attack, but we want all of our users to be as safe as possible. Thank you for your understanding and patience, Greg Grossmeier ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Strategic goals of Wikimania
Have there been any discussions of the link between the purposes that Wikimania serves and the Strategic Plan? I'm interested in thinking about what kinds of resources are appropriate for Wikimania especially regarding attendance for grants committee members. To make the case for significant committee attendance I think I need to know what the strategic purposes of Wikimania are. (: Thanks, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
