Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Michael Peel
From my perspective, this strikes me as part of the reason why national organisations are well suited to running the Wikimedia fundraising campaigns rather than a global organisation: if WMIT was organising both WLM and the national fundraising campaign, then this conflict wouldn't have arisen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Lisa Gruwell
I know the Italian Chapter, the online fundraising team, and community liaisons have been talking about solutions for a while and I won’t get in the way of that, but I thought I would offer a few ideas on some of the online organizing tactics being discussed here. This probably falls in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Laurentius
Il giorno gio, 20/08/2015 alle 01.26 -0400, Risker ha scritto: [...] perhaps a big bright button on the sidebar that says Upload images for Wiki Loves Monuments here! may be technically feasible. This might be a way to mitigate the problem, although I'm not sure whether it's technically

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Risker
Given the huge amount of work, the liability and legislative issues and problems with transferring funds across international borders, I'm not persuaded; having dozens of paid fundraising teams is not cost-effective by any stretch of the imagination. The process was stopped because it was costing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Chapters] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Laurentius
Il giorno mer, 19/08/2015 alle 11.39 +0200, Claudia Garád ha scritto: The worst part was to explain our long-standing and important partner the Federal Monuments Office that we can't have the banner time at cruical dates in September (especially the days leading up to our events around the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew Gray
On 20 August 2015 at 06:26, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I can understand the frustration that members of WMIT are expressing here, but I also see Fundraising's point. I wonder if there are not some other options that could be considered. For example, instead of a banner, perhaps a big

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GA Stats using Wikimedia Stats

2015-08-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wikidata should know whether an article has a badge or not (see here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1156 ) On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:14 AM Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot. It was very helpful No, most of these Wikipedias don't have such categories. I'll check further.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
I think you describe the essence of the problem: there is a big gap between the community and the Wikimedia Foundation. I have a long list of problems from the past years that all seem to originate in this basic problem. The Wikimedia Foundation is too much de-attached from the community. At the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
If the fundraising banner was planned in November to be shown in Italy, the problem would have been the same. Only the time could have a positive impact. Also then something has been missed: Wiki Loves Monuments is a sticky project in September, already for years, as it is attached to a world