[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] October 16, 2019 at 9:30 AM PDT, 16:30 UTC

[Janna Layton]

Hi all,

The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed next Wednesday, October
16, at 9:30 AM PDT/16:30 UTC.

YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ35weAVlIU

As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. You
can also watch our past Research Showcases here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase

This month's presentations:

Elections Without Fake: Deploying Real Systems to Counter Misinformation
Campaigns

By Fabrício Benevenuto, Computer Science Department, Universidade Federal
de Minas Gerais (UFMG), Brazil

The political debate and electoral dispute in the online space during the
2018 Brazilian elections were marked by an information war. In order to
mitigate the misinformation problem, we created the project Elections
Without Fake  and developed a
few technological solutions able to reduce the abuse of misinformation
campaigns in the online space. Particularly, we created a system to monitor
public groups in WhatsApp and a system to monitor ads in Facebook. Our
systems showed to be fundamental for fact-checking and investigative
journalism, and are currently being used by over 150 journalists with
editorial lines and various fact-checking agencies.

More info on second talk by Francesca Spezzano to come


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Janna Layton (she, her)
Administrative Assistant - Product & Technology
Wikimedia Foundation 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Andy Mabbett]

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 18:33, Henry Wood  wrote:

> Is the subject being a Wikimedian relevant to whether or not material
> should be published?

In practice items about Wikimedians are /more/ likely to be deleted
than equivalent items about non-Wikimedians.

I know of cases (mostly now reversed, thankfully) where items about
the authors of academic papers - and so clearly meeting Wikidata's
notability criteria - were deleted *because* the author was also a
Wikimedian.

In one case, an item was deleted by the subject Wikimedian himself,
with no prior discussion. Despite this glaring conflict of interest,
it has never been restored.

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Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Jasper Deng]

Hello all,

Speaking as an admin of Wikidata, someone having an item on the project
should never be a criterion for a scholarship. That would not be fair to
those who weren't lucky enough to get an item (I would probably delete any
item made on any of you (in this thread) unless you meet one of our
notability guidelines -- which are less strict than Wikipedia but still
essentially must pass CSDA7). Not everyone is comfortable having their
information on an item, and in most cases no one will be able to verify
that information even if the person consents, since it most likely won't
have reliable sourcing.

Wikidata is emphatically not a LinkedIn or Facebook for us. It's a
knowledgebase for the whole world.

I also think all the ethics about posting someone's private information on
Wikidata is kind of off-topic in this thread. It shouldn't be a basis of
anyone's application anywhere. It's fundamentally not fair. Metrics for
conferences should be fair while furthering the conference's objectives.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:48 AM Henry Wood 
wrote:

> Risker
>
> > I've never created a Wikidata profile about anyone, not even someone who
> is
> > widely known.
>
> I did not say you had.  I said that the common view on the projects
> you support is that the consent of the person written about is not
> necessary and that volunteers have a right to create that material.
> Indeed, I would go further, and say that it is not unknown for
> subjects who object to personal information being published to be
> treated with scorn, contempt and ridicule.  Do you accept that, and if
> so, do you condone it?
>
> > No, I would never create an article about a Wikimedian - or a Wikidata
> > profile either - unless they are clearly and obviously notable outside of
> > our little microcosm.
>
> Is the subject being a Wikimedian relevant to whether or not material
> should be published?
>
> > Further, I think it's terrible use of Wikidata to use it to store what
> are
> > essentially the personnel records of Wikimedia volunteers.
>
> Indeed, in some jurisdictions it is likely to be unlawful.
>
> Henry
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Henry Wood]

Risker

> I've never created a Wikidata profile about anyone, not even someone who is
> widely known.

I did not say you had.  I said that the common view on the projects
you support is that the consent of the person written about is not
necessary and that volunteers have a right to create that material.
Indeed, I would go further, and say that it is not unknown for
subjects who object to personal information being published to be
treated with scorn, contempt and ridicule.  Do you accept that, and if
so, do you condone it?

> No, I would never create an article about a Wikimedian - or a Wikidata
> profile either - unless they are clearly and obviously notable outside of
> our little microcosm.

Is the subject being a Wikimedian relevant to whether or not material
should be published?

> Further, I think it's terrible use of Wikidata to use it to store what are
> essentially the personnel records of Wikimedia volunteers.

Indeed, in some jurisdictions it is likely to be unlawful.

Henry

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

[Pete Forsyth]

Back to the original question (which is an interesting and worthwhile one,
surely applicable to many events across the movement), I would hope that
the WMF has some ability to provide guidance on these matters, or failing
that, the committees who have put together other conferences (e.g.,
WikiCite, WikiConference, etc. etc.) The WMF used to do some detailed work
on this, though my information is now nearly a decade out of date, I'm
pretty confident they still do. I'd suggest reaching out to the grants
folks at WMF and asking if they can pull something together.

Pete
--
User:Peteforsyth

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:20 AM Isaac Olatunde 
wrote:

> I completely agree with Risker here. In the recent time, most (if not all)
> Wikipedian of the year award recipients now have a Wikipedia article.
>
> One would wonder if Wikipedia of the year award confers notability.
>
> This is not to disrespect our WOTY but I do honestly feel that users who
> are not notable apart from receiving the award does not merit a Wikipedia
> article.
>
> Regards,
>
> Isaac
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 4:10 PM Risker 
> > I've never created a Wikidata profile about anyone, not even someone who
> is
> > widely known.  I've never created or edited a biographical article about
> > someone who isn't really obviously notable, and who has a broad and
> widely
> > known profile as verified in multiple non-Wikimedia (or
> > Wikipedia/Wikimedia-related) sources.
> >
> > No, I would never create an article about a Wikimedian - or a Wikidata
> > profile either - unless they are clearly and obviously notable outside of
> > our little microcosm.  Frankly, with very few exceptions, almost nobody
> > whose "notability" is primarily related to this movement is actually
> > notable in the strictest reading of the policies of most of our Wikipedia
> > projects.  As far as I'm concerned, most of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia/other
> > project-related articles on most of our projects are a prime example of
> > navel-gazing rather than actual notability.
> >
> > Further, I think it's terrible use of Wikidata to use it to store what
> are
> > essentially the personnel records of Wikimedia volunteers.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 09:52, Henry Wood 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Risker
> > >
> > > > I'm pretty shocked at this idea; in fact, if someone created a
> Wikidata
> > > > profile about me, I'd have it taken down under applicable
> legislation.
> > >
> > > ... and yet you are an energetic volunteer for projects that assert
> > > the right to do that to other people?
> > >
> > > Henry
> > >
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