[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:53 AM Jan Ainali wrote: > Brion wrote: >> > 1) Overturn the requirement to avoid handling h.264 files on Wikimedia >> servers or accept them from users or serve them to users. Allow importing >> h.264 uploads and creating h.264 transcodes for playback compatibility. >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Yes, we have videos. And we even have video creation projects. https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari: Hezkuntza/Ikusgela is a good example of that.Still, those are multimedia but not interactive. And adding subtitles is complex (we could have a translation tool for those). We can't dub videos

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread James Heilman
And here we have >300 videos donated by Osmosis https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_from_Osmosis James On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 11:45 AM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Maybe people don't know but video donation happens in Wikimedia already > and it doesn't need to be from Youtubers. >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Maybe people don't know but video donation happens in Wikimedia already and it doesn't need to be from Youtubers. Here is my favorite example: German public broadcaster (ARD) donates short informational videos to Wikipedia and they are used in articles in German Wikipedia. They get a lot of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 1/26/24 12:05 PM, geni wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 22:24, Ivan Martínez wrote: By not having a Youtube 2.0 we are avoiding a Wikipedia 2.0 with pure encyclopaedic videos. I see a false dilemma there. Creating good encyclopaedic videos is from a video production point of view a far

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Amir Sarabadani
I'm not an expert in multimedia codecs or patents so I leave the actual decision to people who know better (maybe legal team in WMF?) but according to tech news, major patents for mp4 have already expired and the rest will expire soon, a large batch of them expired in November 2023 and a major

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread geni
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 22:24, Ivan Martínez wrote: > By not having a Youtube 2.0 we are avoiding a Wikipedia 2.0 with pure > encyclopaedic videos. I see a false dilemma there. Creating good encyclopaedic videos is from a video production point of view a far harder problem that dealing with the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread geni
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 07:00, Gnangarra wrote: > Simple mp4 upload option would be a starting point, surely we are big enough > for any copyright holders to donate the licensing if wmf comes made a request > No. There are still members of the MP4 patent pool who expect that at some point they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks for bringing this also, Xavier. Last Wikimania I went to a great session about the new tools the Research Team is building. Most of them are really useful. It's a pity I can't find them if I don't try to search specifically for them, and that no one will ever find them because we don't

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedians of Romania and Moldova annual report

2024-01-26 Thread Strainu
Hey folks, Here is the annual report for WMROMD. Looking forward for any feedback you have. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Romania_and_Moldova_User_Group/2023 BR, Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list --

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread Kimmo Virtanen
Hi, Could somebody explain what is problem with VP9 or AV1 with WebM container? These are supported in Wikimedia Commons. Br, -- Kimmo Virtanen / Zache On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:05 PM Brion Vibber wrote: > Converting them to suitably compact files in h.264/aac in .MP4 format > would be by

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-26 Thread F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l
Bon dia/Hi, I don't want to add even more seriousness to the thread; I am happy to read that there is an absolute agreement on the topic. But interactivity is not only about embedding video: we currently must leave each project to Toolforge for supporting editing tools, to Humanwiki to read