[Wikimedia-l] Amazon Smile thinks WMF is in Washington, incorporated 2003.
If you look up "Wikimedia" in Amazon Smile, you find "Wikimedia foundation Inc., Washington DC, Incorporation year 2003". Any idea why that is so? -- David Richfield Nabburgerstraße 19, 81737 München +49 176 72663368 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back
Welcome back Milos! I knew this day would come, and I look forward to meeting you again and discussing language, philosophy and Wiki stuff. David -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +49 176 72663368 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI
Interesting views from Project Gutenberg users. David Richfield +27718539985 Sent from a mobile device. -- Forwarded message -- From: "Bess Richfield" Date: 25 Apr 2013 09:56 Subject: Re: Wikipedia FYI To: "David Richfield" Cc: David, I am sure that, given the sheer size of wikipedia, it is possible to find many examples of real excellence that perhaps counter the general statements I gave below. This, unfortunately, misses the point. I feel very strongly that, no matter how many really, really fantastic things there are in wikipedia, it is not as good as it can be. And it is not about the final product, but how to attain that ideal. I use wikipedia every day - multiple times. It is a wonderful edifice. But could it not be so much better if it used the resources (possible contributors) more productively and inclusively? Could it be that you are too close to the forest, seeing only trees, and losing the sense of what I am trying to say? I am formulating some very interesting ideas about the subject - but I have to get them properly sorted out - then I will post you about it. Or maybe we can discuss it on the phone or skype. --- What kind of window will there be between your flying in home, and departing on holiday? Bess --- -Original Message- From: David Richfield Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:46 AM To: Bess Richfield Subject: Re: Wikipedia FYI See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wikipedia:Featured_article_**candidates<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates> for examples of people taking great care and attention to articles to get them to be the best they possibly can. One of them is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pennsylvania-class_battleship<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania-class_battleship>, which is certainly not a topic of purely recent interest. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Bess Richfield wrote: > David, > > > > A couple of weeks ago I noticed that there was a thread called WIKIPEDIA in > one of the forums of Distributed Proofreaders. So I investigated . . . > > > > When today the last contribution below arrived, I thought you’d like to > take > a look. > > > > I am leaving out only two small irrelevant comments in between. I > contributed on the 6th of April 2013.: > > > > 31 August 2012 (Start of thread) > > > > Well I finally gave up on Wikipedia after close to a decade of > contributions, particularly in the topic of astronomy. (Over 70,000 edits, > many many new articles, reviews, citations, and 20 featured articles.) My > main beef was with certain stubbornly foolish individuals who managed to > sap > all of the enjoyment out of the process. I think I'll spend a lot more time > on DP now because it's a more structured process and there's very little > negativity here. Plus it's a nice feeling to know that the contributions > you > make here won't get wiped out by some nincompoop. > > Just needed to vent a little. > > > > 31 August 2012 > > > > Funny you should say that. I recently looked over a project in P1 and found > that on one page the only change made by the proofer was replacing a > clearly > correct (both visually and grammatically) comma with a semicolon. > > > Nincompoops Of The World, Unite! > > > > 6 September, 2012 > > > > This is why many do not bother with it at all. I have added things in the > earlier days only to have whole pages replaced by someone that has no idea > what they are talking about. Then bicker over the changes I make to > correct > thier misinformation. > > > > 6 April 2013 (This is my contribution) > > > > Just came across this thread. I would love to work on Wikipedia, and I > have > made some contributions; but the negativity and sheer difficulty of > navigating their processes turned me off completely. Not to mention the > bumptious rudeness of what I assume to be young males with absolutely no > perspective. My SO and my "young male" son, who both do a huge amount for > Wikipedia, have managed to tolerate and survive Wikipedia. Interestingly, > neither of them work in DP, although my son did sign up before even I did, > but has probably lapsed since he never contributed. > > I would like to know how much of an overlap there is between contributors > to > Wikipedia and DP. Since both are concerned with volunteers making > knowledge > available for free to the whole world, one would expect a good match. But > the very different cultures seem to attract different populations. Any > comments? > > > > 24 April 2013 > > > > Wikipedia and DP aren't the only crowdsource information-aggrega
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI
That's a good point: the activity of proofreading is inherently less likely to cause controversy than the activity of building a neutral, comprehensive encyclopedia, so it's probably naturally likely to attract people who are less inclined to argue, and the topics are also likely to be easier to resolve. I never thought about it that way. David Richfield +27718539985 Sent from a mobile device. On 25 Apr 2013 21:50, "Andrea Zanni" wrote: > Hi David, > thanks for sharing. > > I tend to agree to some of the statements made in the thread: > as a Wikisource user, I perfectly understand the lack of negativity > proofreading carries, > instead of, for example, writing on Gaza strip related topics... > (and I would dare to say (without data, unfortunately) that this is also a > reason why in WS and DP we could find a high percentage of women as > collaborators, too.) > > Moreover, I think it's right to think is people who love *books* who goes > towards DP and Wikisource, > and also people who loves old books (because we don't have new ones). > > Aubrey > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Single User Login finalisation: some accounts will be renamed
James answered this in his original email: > It will now only be possible for accounts to be renamed globally; the > RenameUser tool will no longer work on a local basis - since all accounts > must be globally unique - therefore it will be withdrawn from bureaucrats' > tool sets. It will still be possible for users to ask on Meta for their > account to be renamed further, if they do not like their new user name, once > this takes place. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Will the affected users be given a one-time offer to have their accounts > renamed, or are they stuck forever with the "~" ones? > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:01 AM, James Forrester > wrote: > >> On 29 April 2013 20:59, Fae wrote: >> > Thanks James, personally I'm comforted by your prompt reply. >> >> Happy to help. :-) >> >> > My intuition is that this would be unlikely to affect any accounts >> > with more than 5,000 edits, possibly fewer. I have no doubt that you >> > intend to take special care to help users with significant >> > contributions, such as those with a well established contribution >> > history at this level. >> >> Yes, I'll be personally reviewing the renaming list to make sure we >> can catch any particularly-major issues early. >> >> Yours, >> -- >> James D. Forrester >> Product Manager, VisualEditor >> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. >> >> jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues
I think you sent this to the wrong David... Good to hear from you, though :-) David Richfield +27718539985 Sent from a mobile device. On 12 May 2013 16:57, "Achal Prabhala" wrote: > Hi David, > > On Sunday 12 May 2013 07:33 PM, David Cuenca wrote: > >> Hi Achal, >> >> For those cases there is a Wikisource clone called Wikilivres, whose >> server >> is in Canada and it is operated by a Canadian citizen. >> http://wikilivres.ca/ >> > > Thank you - I've seen it, and think it's great. > > It is not very fast, but it serves as storage for such cases since the >> Canadian copyright law is quite permissive in that regard (50 years after >> author/translator death). >> Then you can link the works from the Wikisource author page to the work >> page in Wikilivres as some Wikisources do. >> > > So while I'm glad there's a relatively central source for such things, I > guess there'd be no problem hosting such content on Indian servers, say, > for work that's gone into the public domain on the basis of Indian > copyright law. My earlier email (and the originating question) was to how > to mesh Wikimedia Commons and Wikisource with such work - and whether we > could. Hence the interest in the law and its workarounds. > > >> If you have time, take also a look to the proposed improvements for >> Wikisource. Thanks! >> https://wikisource.org/wiki/**Wikisource_vision_development/** >> Applying_the_WS_values<https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource_vision_development/Applying_the_WS_values> >> > > This looks great, and I was wondering if the last point on the list > (working with other entities) also includes finding a way to placehold > works that have gone out of copyright in other countries, and are hosted > on, say, Wikilivres. That is, for people who consider themselves to be > working on Wikisource, and are dealing with such works, is there anything > you can offer them even if they have to host elsewhere? > > >> David ---User:Micru >> >> >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Achal Prabhala >> wrote: >> >> Of relevance here: http://www.publicdomainday.** >>> org/sites/www.publicdomainday.eu/files/World_copyright- >>> terms.jpg<http://www.**publicdomainday.org/sites/www.** >>> publicdomainday.eu/files/**World_copyright-terms.jpg<http://www.publicdomainday.org/sites/www.publicdomainday.eu/files/World_copyright-terms.jpg> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message >>> Subject:Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright >>> Issues >>> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 14:51:27 +0530 >>> From: Achal Prabhala >>> To: Wikimedia India Community list >> wikimedia.org >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Balasankar, >>> >>> The question you raise is a very important one. The solution, however, is >>> not likely to be to host content in India (I don't speak for the >>> Wikimedia >>> Foundation, but there are sound legal reasons why all Wikimedia content >>> is >>> hosted in the US; mostly liability risk and freedom of expression and >>> this >>> is unlikely to change). >>> >>> The default across Commons and Wikisource, the two projects that host the >>> bulk of public domain content (images, videos, sounds, books) in >>> Wikimedia, >>> is the US copyright term - it's the only yardstick that matters for what >>> qualifies as public domain by virtue of being out of copyright. You are >>> absolutely right, however, in that there's a big difference btw US >>> copyright terms and those of other countries, for instance: >>> >>> For photographs, while the binding limit (Berne/TRIPs) is 25 years from >>> the making of the work, India is life of photographer + 60 years after >>> death, and in the US it is life + 70. >>> >>> For literary works, the binding limit (Berne/ TRIPs) is life + 50 years, >>> whereas in India it is life + 60, whereas in the US it is life + 70 or >>> 120/95 if made on work for hire. >>> >>> (The binding limit is the WTO mandated term that country members - US and >>> India and 150 others - have to follow. As you can see, typically, most >>> countries exceed the limit for reasons of their own, which they are >>> allowed >>> to do, with the US exceeding in far greater amount than India.) >>> >>> In short, there can be
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards
This is a very good proposal, and I've forwarded it to the rest of our board for comment. Thanks, Chris! -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
[Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?
Hi all, When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice on responsible engagement with Wikipedia. I know that different language projects have different rules on whether company representatives should: * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages * Edit under their own names or under company names What are the rules for the Nordic languages? Thanks, David -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +491723724440 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?
Thanks for the quick reply, Hans! If our representatives would (for example) translate an English company page into Norwegian, and then explain the edits on the talk page, and identify their conflict of interest on their user pages and also the article talk page, would you expect that that would be seen as fair and transparent by the Norwegian Wikipedia community? On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Hans A. Rosbach wrote: > In no-wp we have a policy that usernames shall be for individuals and thus > typical company usernames are blocked and asked to request change of names. > These users then have no restrictions on which pages to edit. As long as we > don't demand identification of users, restrictions on edits would IMO be > futile anyway. > > Hans A. Rosbach / User:Haros > > > > On 21 October 2013 15:14, David Richfield wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez >> International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice >> on responsible engagement with Wikipedia. I know that different >> language projects have different rules on whether company >> representatives should: >> >> * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages >> * Edit under their own names or under company names >> >> What are the rules for the Nordic languages? >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> -- >> David Richfield >> [[:en:User:Slashme]] >> +491723724440 >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +491723724440 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?
Thanks all! Surprising as it might seem for a company our size, we don't have any consultants polishing our Wikipedia pages. I'm not in communications at all: I'm in R&D, but our Corporate Communications team really does want to act in good faith, which is why they started talking to me: they're trying to understand the rules before doing anything, and I want to help them connect with the right people in the projects, and help them figure out how they're allowed to contribute responsibly and openly. Kind regards, David On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Johan Jönsson wrote: > 2013/10/21 David Richfield > >> Hi all, >> > > For Swedish Wikipedia, as I understand our consensus and relevant texts > (WP:IK, WP:Användarkonto, WP:Att skriva om näringsliv, företag och > varumärken): > > When I'm not editing Wikimedia projects, I work for Mondelez >> International, and our Social Media team has contacted me for advice >> on responsible engagement with Wikipedia. I know that different >> language projects have different rules on whether company >> representatives should: >> >> * Edit pages directly or only ever edit talk pages >> > > Talk pages only, please. > > * Edit under their own names or under company names >> > > Their own names (or pseudonyms). We discourage company names as user names. > > //Johan Jönsson > -- > http://vetsaga.se > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +491723724440 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement Sarah Stierch
Hopefully if "we" means the Wikimedia community, we haven't lost her - I trust that she will remain engaged with the Wikimedia projects as a volunteer. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > It is extremely sad to lose one of our best and brightest. Was there no > other way ?? Was this even considered ?? > Thanks, > Gerard > > > On 9 January 2014 09:16, Andrea Zanni wrote: > >> +1 Nathan. >> >> Aubrey >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Nathan wrote: >> >> > You know what, I think this outcome is not just disappointing, it's >> > positively astounding. I have a lot that I could say about it, but I >> can't >> > imagine what the point of saying it could possibly be. Chalk one up for >> the >> > trolls. >> > ___ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > _______ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +491723724440 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Any studies on economic impact of community-produced open data?
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 4 June 2012 13:57, David Gerard wrote: >> AIUI, weekdays office hours are our peak access period, and Wikipedia >> generally isn't blocked in offices the way Facebook, etc. often are. >> This suggests it's good for *something* economically. > > It's good for lowering the productivity of offices! I occasionally > look things up on Wikipedia at work that are actually about my work, > but usually it's to settle a debate that has nothing at all to do with > work. Maybe that's true for you, but I often look up work-relevant stuff in Wikipedia. Where it's important, I can follow references and look up other sources. Also, think about the way doctors use it: it's a very useful aide-de-memoire for most doctors when it comes to stuff they don't use on a daily basis. They have the knowledge and skills to determine whether the information is correct, and don't rely on it for critical decisions, but if a doctor needs a remindor of which receptor is affected by the autoimmune system in myasthenia gravis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasthenia_gravis#Pathophysiology will help. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica
I've never used a professional GPS, but I've found Navit and Gosmore to be quite useful on Android. Interstingly, they have complementary levels of fail. Navit has good voice instructions, but horrible search, while Gosmore has semi-lame voice instructions but very good search. Both of them seem to route just fine for my purposes in South Africa, but I haven't tested toll roads. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6
I'm glad to see that Navigation Popups works nicely with IPv6. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] CheckUser openness
So User:mfgaowener should get an automated mail saying "because you did a pagemove with edit summary "Haers!" you were checkusered. Please be more subtle in your vandalism next time." I trust the current checks and balances, and I don't think the system is getting significant levels of abuse. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
I'm actually really shocked that the speedy deletion wiki doesn't have a copy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Juclandia - there's an excellent version of the article on http://microwiki.org.uk/index.php?title=Juclandia , though, so all is not lost. [it seems to be a monstrously elaborate page about some kid's bedroom kingdom, by the way.] But seriously, my point is that you don't need to pick up the crumbs that are swept off Wikipedia's table to allow people the space to indulge their creative spirits. There are other wikis that will open their doors. David -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FSF Blocked by MS "Net nanny software"
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Michel Vuijlsteke wrote: > I didn't really mind it -- a fun reminder some people still live in the > Micro$haft Winbl0ws 1990s. :) The fact is that Microsoft still effectively levies a tax on most computers sold, with no way for the consumer to know exactly how much of the cost of their system is a payment to Redmond, and no way to recover this cost. It's long past the '90s, but Microsoft still tries to divide and conquer by attempting to convince users that they can get sued for using Linux unless they use a paid-for flavour of SUSE. Microsoft tries to subvert and avoid any open standards (see ODF [they implemented it in a way that is incompatible with other implementations] and OOXML [they built in patent protection to their format to lock out free implementations, but try to avoid criticism with vague "promises" not to sue]) Embrace, Extend, Extinguish still seems to be their strategy. They work with free projects when it suits them (and I'm actually quite grateful for their aerial photography in OpenStreetMap) but we have to be very very careful whenever we work with them that we don't get suckered into anything. Wikimedia stands for freedom, and Microsoft has repeatedly shown itself to be an enemy of freedom. They are not to be trusted. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with "Rape" in title under advertising pressure.
This must be the most misleading mailing list title I've seen in a long time. Almost all of these tropes are untouched: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes?from=Main.RapeTropes - it seems they just had a problem with Google withdrawing ad revenue because they hadn't clearly demarcated all the pages which were not OK according to Google's terms. With that said, it does make a great case for why Wikimedia should remain independent: we have enough to do to ensure the quality of our project without also worrying about whether we'll irritate Google. [[:en:User:Slashme]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with "Rape" in title under advertising pressure.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 27 June 2012 16:02, David Richfield wrote: > >> This must be the most misleading mailing list title I've seen in a >> long time. Almost all of these tropes are untouched: >> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes?from=Main.RapeTropes >> - it seems they just had a problem with Google withdrawing ad revenue >> because they hadn't clearly demarcated all the pages which were not OK >> according to Google's terms. > > > This is pretty much completely wrong, as you'd know if you'd read the > links at the beginning. The pages were already marked "don't put ads > here". Google objected to their presence on the site at all. The pages > were removed, the internet said "wtf" and TVtropes has now restored > them without hearing back from Google. Wow, they moved fast! I read the blog post and then went to check, and found the supposedly deleted articles up, less than a full day after the original mailing list email, so I assumed there had to be some mistake. How long were the articles actually deleted? -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with "Rape" in title under advertising pressure.
That's the nice thing about the Internet: What Wikipedia doesn't want, some people will host, and what they don't want, some other people will host. Everyone has standards; the standards just differ from project to project. On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: > well i can give you copies of the scripts, the articles are still on > archive org, I dont want to host them, > mike -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!
Michelle Obama's Arms seems to me to have been a perfectly reasonable deletion based on the discussion. The sources were a list of tabloid-style articles. If I had to guess, I'd say the BeebTweet AFD will be closed as "no consensus" despite all the ILikeIt, IDon'tLikeIt and OtherStuffExists crap going on. It's frightfully trivial, but for me the main question is whether we have editors who will maintain it, and I think the answer is clearly "yes", so I really don't care whether it stays or goes. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly
I really really don't get all this talk about Wikipedia being ugly. To me it's a great example of how text really can move from markup to a well-laid-out website with a coherent design philosophy. Wikipedia generates results which adapt to window size very gracefully without taking the cop-out of forcing all the content to run down the center of the page in a fixed size. In fact, http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/07/on-the-ugliness-of-wikipedia/259747/ wastes half the page real-estate on my browser, and with the river of content that's left in the middle, what does it do? It reserves about a third of it for ads. Quite horrible really. -- David Richfield [[:User:Slashme]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Richard Farmbrough wrote: > Apart from using a vandalized version of [[Pyramid]] and a graphically > horrendous capital I, there are some nice elements in a generally good > layout. Looking at their screenshots, it seems as if that horrible font is not part of their suggestion to improve Wikipedia; it's just used in their own text. I'd like to see more than just the top bit of the page, to see how their suggestion would pan out below the TOC; I'd also like to see how it handles things like infoboxes, and they should also show how it would work on different screen sizes. What I'd like to see on Wikipedia: A big obvious link leading people to an editor-help community like [[WP:ADOPT]] (this is based on interaction with intelligent people who refuse to edit Wikipedia because it's too daunting), and more focus on the history tab (and maybe also a re-name as suggested). -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Could someone please fix this article?
This shouldn't be on this mailing list; it should be somewhere like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/British_cinema_task_force On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Phil Nash wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Dominik Martinez" > > To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Could someone please fix this article? > > > >> On 9/16/2012 5:11 PM, Phil Nash wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_and_television_shows_set_in_Liverpool >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >> Could you please be a little more specific as to what you need fixed? > > > It should be obvious. But there's an entry which has broken the table > format, and another which isn't even in the table. I'd do it myself, and it > would take me less than a minute; but ArbCom have decided that I can't even > do that. Counter-productive? You judge. > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: "Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia"
> Look, David, if a dozen towns express an interest in his services, and > offer him a consultancy fee, and he decides he will work with Gibraltar, > then Gibraltar go forward and he pockets their fee. The others remain in > the queue. Nobody *made* him take Gibraltar, did they? I don't think it's quite as simple as a town "remaining in the queue": it's an open system, and he's not some kind of gatekeeper. Any town that wants to become a wiki town can "jump the queue" by doing it themselves. There are plenty of Wikimedians who would be happy to work with a town that wants to do something like this. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Using the Wikipedia logo for Wikimedia South Africa projects
Hi, We are working with the City of Johannesburg to tag heritage sites, in a project called JoburgpediA. The proposed logo has the Wikipedia Globe as one of the elements: is this acceptable? Also, if we will be putting up plaques which include the Wikipedia logo on buildings, what approval do we need? Thanks, -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using the Wikipedia logo for Wikimedia South Africa projects
Thanks, I have forwarded the request to him directly. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Abbas Mahmood wrote: > David, > You should probably contact Jay Walsh or any one from WMF Legal and ask for > permission. > Abbas. > >> From: davidrichfi...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 08:22:31 +0200 >> To: foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Using the Wikipedia logo for Wikimedia South Africa >> projects >> >> Hi, >> >> We are working with the City of Johannesburg to tag heritage sites, in >> a project called JoburgpediA. The proposed logo has the Wikipedia >> Globe as one of the elements: is this acceptable? Also, if we will be >> putting up plaques which include the Wikipedia logo on buildings, what >> approval do we need? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> David Richfield >> [[:en:User:Slashme]] >> +27718539985 >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > _______ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using the Wikipedia logo for Wikimedia South Africa projects
Thanks! I'll forward the request to the trademarks address. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Abbas Mahmood wrote: > >> David, >> You should probably contact Jay Walsh or any one from WMF Legal and ask >> for permission. >> Abbas. >> > > (I emailed David off-list) > > Those are fail-safe followups, Jay and the legal team can and do review > those. Within the past year or so the WMF legal team set up trademarks AT > wikimedia DOT org. That's the best starting point of contact. It's not a > very well-known address, but it's on the contact page somewhere. > > Hope this helps for future requests here. > > -- > ~Keegan > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
I don't see this as an actual patent troll: the people in question actually use the technology that they patented for self-guided walking tours: the tourist calls the number related to the specific site, and hears information about it. I think they were just a bit overoptimistic about what was patentable, and/or how broad the coverage given by their their patent was. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: > "...without the necessity of going through unnecessary legal fees in using the > patented concept without the consent of..." - Is that a copyvio? > * See also > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll > > 2013/2/8, Fae : >> On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield wrote: >>> It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and >>> Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage >>> relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of >>> a site. >> >>> A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover >>> anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad >>> that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless >>> network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? >> >> I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not >> reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything >> infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open >> source or irrelevant. >> >> My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years >> and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is >> that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often >> proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might >> get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send >> and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is >> likely to become very frequent. >> >> This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in >> any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, >> blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... >> >> Thanks, >> Fae >> -- >> fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm >> Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Armenia
Congratulations, and welcome! -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia
> [create some simple userspace articles for newbies to correct and edit] Great idea, Ziko! Thanks for sharing. I'll definitely do this when I do some training. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
