Re: [Wikimedia-l] convert from BitCoin to FoldingCoin and other proofs of useful work

2018-11-01 Thread Robert Rohde
any smaller alt-coins, unless an effective countermeasure can be developed. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:23 AM James Salsman wrote: > Geni, it's the "Day of the Dead" now so I want to attempt to resurrect > this thread. > > Is FoldingCoin still vulnerable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Duty of care

2018-02-01 Thread Robert Rohde
Hi Renee, Not a real answer, but you might consider looking for different terminology. Using "duty of care" the way you do is more common in British English. On the American side of the pond, it is less common to talk about a "duty of care" and more common to talk about specific issues, like hea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] June minutes from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2016-07-24 Thread Robert Rohde
L8 v6d44oh On Jul 23, 2016 2:54 AM, "Stephen LaPorte" wrote: Hi all, The Board of Trustees have published minutes from the summer Board meeting on June 22-23 and the Board meeting on June 29 to discuss the endowment. You can find the meeting minutes and accompanying documents on the Foundatio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-11 Thread Robert Rohde
imarily to a lack of scrutiny then that suggests the process of vetting Board candidates is in serious need of improvement. -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Matthew Flaschen < matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu> wrote: > On 01/08/2016 12:43 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-02 Thread Robert Rohde
Would you (or James) care to clarify? -Robert Rohde On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Dear Dariusz, > > Thank you for the response. I understand that you (and the board) want to > move on. But there are in many organisations (and countries) certain powers > that are &#

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-30 Thread Robert Rohde
int announcement but neglected to discuss that with James before ejecting him from the meeting, then that suggests poor handling by the Board. -Robert Rohde On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 9:25 PM, olatunde isaac wrote: > I'm very disappointed to know that the board meeting was still ongoing as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2015-12-30 Thread Robert Rohde
Jimbo, on his talk page, says this was a removal "for cause", and that he expects the whole Board will provide a further statement. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Kevin Gorman wrote: > As far as I can tell, no one alleges Doc James did anything wrong - if > th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in size of the core editing community

2015-09-10 Thread Robert Rohde
t sure we should every again expect dramatic growth, but if we can move towards a more stable or slowly growing community that would seem to make an apocalyptic collapse less likely. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Pine W wrote: > James, > > Yes, there is more to the stor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does openly declaring your gender change the probability of having an upload overwritten?

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Rohde
ce of a quite large effect before assuming there was an important bias. -Robert Rohde On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Fæ wrote: > I have pulled together the following table together for the past 360 days, > counting whenever an image was reverted by someone who was not the last > uplo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

2015-08-13 Thread Robert Rohde
that should be considered. So, no, we can't force the WMF to respect our wishes, but we can hope that they will work with us because a good relationship between the WMF and the editor community is important for both groups. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Peter Southwood <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Rohde
kis like enwiki. -Robert Rohde > On 11 August 2015 at 17:58, Robert Rohde wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Risker wrote: > > > > > > > There are situations where not even the administrators of a particular > > > community should be allowe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Rohde
are useful. Though hypothetically possible I can't think of any examples of an admin on enwiki modifying a legal page in a harmful way, which makes it seem like you have solution for a problem that doesn't actually exist. -Robert Rohde > > On 11 August 2015 at 16:43, Romaine Wiki wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

2015-07-31 Thread Robert Rohde
short answer, I think there is no way that attribution which only appeared within image metadata would be regarded as legally adequate under current CC licenses. Such metadata is not sufficiently discoverable to meet standards for "reasonable" attribution under the few cases that hav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

2015-07-27 Thread Robert Rohde
tc. However, I don't think that WMF Legal should get involved in cases where someone wanted to do the right thing but failed. There is no need to waste our resources on third-party cases where there is a significant risk of losing. -Robert Rohde ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images "for the wikimedia foundation" and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 20 July 2015 at 18:09, Robert Rohde wrote: > > > it is also hard for me to get behind the > > notion of punishing someone for demanding that reusers due the things > that > > Commons actually recommends t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images "for the wikimedia foundation" and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
me: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Forum/Archiv/2013/August#de:WP:URF.23Fotos_werden_Hochgeladen_-_gesucht_und_dann_gezielt_abgemahnt_.3F -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > I would have a serious problem with someone litigating, or threatening to > litigate, ove

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images "for the wikimedia foundation" and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
the perspective that it might not be. (I don't know the history of the Commons pages, so I'm not really sure of the community's thinking here.) I do think there is something of a problem that Wikipedia models a behavior (i.e. linking) that is different from what Commons recommends (i.e.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] harald bischoff advertising to make images "for the wikimedia foundation" and then suing users

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Rohde
What do you mean by legalize? The license is what the license is, while we might influence future versions of the license, we don't really control how current licenses are interpreted. That is an issue for the courts. There is a modest ambiguity in CC BY-SA 3.0 about the attribution clauses (e.g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Rohde
is more distant from the roots of Wikimedia. Anyway, best wishes Erik. Your contributions and eloquence will be missed. (Though I won't be shy in reminding you that you can still participate in the WMF projects as a volunteer, should you get that itch. ;-) ) -Robert Rohde P.S. Some of the s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing: The Wikipedia Prize!

2015-03-30 Thread Robert Rohde
So, you are offering a prize equivalent to US $2.50? Not exactly an inspirational amount of money (though perhaps that is the point). -Robert Rohde On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > I'm sure many of you recall the Netflix Prize > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-12 Thread Robert Rohde
s cast, so good luck with it. -Robert Rohde On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:03 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Hi. > > I'm of two minds here. I would love for mass surveillance to stop; the > revelations of the past few years are disgusting. However, this lawsuit > has the appearance of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-26 Thread Robert Rohde
it is also possible that many of these language are "missing" in part because the computer literate among the populations who speak these languages actually prefer to edit in some other language (e.g. English). Anyway, just a few thoughts. -Robert Rohde On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:57 P

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Rohde
Yay! I'm pretty sure there is a Jimbo quote somewhere about how the Wikimedia logos would never ever be made free, and for once I am glad that he was wrong. Or maybe it was Mike Godwin. Doesn't really matter who said it, except to say that this seems like a remarkable turn around compared to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request for comments: How to deal with open datasets?

2014-05-15 Thread Robert Rohde
data management solution. But am I correct in thinking that you asked the question primarily out of a desire to think about how we could use externally managed data sets? -Robert Rohde On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:25 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > Hi, > > During the Zürich Hackathon I met several peop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Rohde
ue if regulatory fiats or undiscovered flaws in the Bitcoin system cause their value to plummet. I don't think holding on to high-risk investment vehicles makes sense for a non-profit that aims to make responsible use of people's donations. -Robert Rohde ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is wikipedia zero illegal because it violates net neutrality?

2013-08-26 Thread Robert Rohde
broad dissemination of knowledge among people who have historically lacked access to it, but I suppose some people might disagree. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-08-01 Thread Robert Rohde
then there is no provision allowing me to tell my boss or my subordinates unless I directly need their help to satisfy the request. If someone with root access were directly served with an NSL, it isn't obvious that WMF executives would ever learn about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-08-01 Thread Robert Rohde
didn't warrant that. -Robert Rohde On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hey Kevin, > > contrary to your belief (and in spite of your desire to blame me ;-), > I actually have a ton of respect for the opinions you've expressed > throughout the process, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread Robert Rohde
re may be room for some special purpose buttons, but many tasks are going to need to be accomplished by generalized tools. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?

2013-07-30 Thread Robert Rohde
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > Hi Robert, > > This is a great question. Would you mind adding it to the wiki so we don't > lose track of it? I don't mind adding it, but I'm not sure where you want it to go? Also, should I copy your reply, too? -Robert __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread Robert Rohde
r by conducting new comparison trials or by finding better ways to tease out patterns in editing trends. -Robert Rohde On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM, David Gerard wrote: > >> de:wp convinced you. What would it take to c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-30 Thread Robert Rohde
e complicated for authors than the present version. This is one of the examples where there would seem to be few good alternatives. Maybe the devs who are imagining reengineering wikitext can also think up good alternatives for some of the uses they might contemplate making obsolete? -Robert R

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-30 Thread Robert Rohde
g the page that uses it, but there is no general way to identify all templates that might be problematic at the time the template is written. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions for the WMF Board of Trustees?

2013-07-29 Thread Robert Rohde
based, etc. Is that something the Board ever involves itself in? Given current plans, it seems likely that questions surrounding changes in user experience and the deployment of new technology will be among the most significant issues for the editor community. -Robert Rohde On Sun, Jul 28, 2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-28 Thread Robert Rohde
rm of wide-scale deployment at this time. It should also be acknowledged that many participants agreed with the idea of a visual editor, in principle, but felt that the current implementation wasn't yet adequate. -Robert Rohde On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Bence Damokos wrote: > Can so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates on VE data analysis

2013-07-26 Thread Robert Rohde
problem once we are more than a month past VE's launch. It would be nice to extend the graphs to two or three months if possible to get a longer-term perspective. -Robert Rohde On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, James Salsman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Dario Taraborelli <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-25 Thread Robert Rohde
completely arbitrary blocks of wikitext that would only be interpreted once the whole page is assembled. -Robert Rohde [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/VisualEditor-Parsoid/July_2013 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: change in article edits after visual editor roll-out (was Re: Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation)

2013-07-23 Thread Robert Rohde
could also be useful. Less complex tasks like communicating on talk pages might also offer some information (though I suspect people who choose to be anonymous might be less inclined to use talk pages regardless of other experience / ability). -Robert Rohde

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-22 Thread Robert Rohde
top-down fashion without much effort to determine whether the various communities involved feel the software is ready. -Robert Rohde [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/RFC [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:VisualEditor%27s_effect_on_newly_registered_

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in jail!

2013-06-18 Thread Robert Rohde
mundane, but if you look hard enough I'm sure some people might find things to object to. -Robert Rohde On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Charles Andrès wrote: > Wikipedia for prisoners – an unexpected partnership between a swiss prison > and Wikimedia CH > > Following an initiati

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Rohde
x and recharge. It seems to be the case that many such declared retirements aren't really permanent. -Robert Rohde On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter > wrote: > > >> 1. What is the average lifetim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Rohde
ork is being by the relative old-timers. By the same token though, people who have ever made it to 1000 edits are more likely than not to still be active today. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubs