Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

2020-07-09 Thread Todd Allen
I tend to agree with this. I'm one of the first to criticize WMF when they deserve it (I wish they didn't as often!), but I see nothing wrong with consumers of huge amounts of data being asked to chip in to cover the costs of providing it. That is, of course, provided that there is never any fee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

2020-07-17 Thread Todd Allen
And, how might one view it? Todd On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:29 AM Zack McCune wrote: > Hello all - > > A quick update on timing: this Board briefing has been rescheduled for July > 28th. > > thanks, > > - Zack > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 6:24 AM João Alexandre Peschanski < > joa...@gmail.com>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Concerns about BoT Election Q

2021-07-05 Thread Todd Allen
Really, there shouldn't be any "selection". All of the community questions should be put over, and the candidates then may choose to answer any or all of them. If a candidate does not answer a question, people can then take from that what they will. This is a community selection process. There is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

2021-10-19 Thread Todd Allen
te you a blank check. What EXACTLY are you proposing to do, step by step and detail by detail? Regards, Todd Allen On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kaarel Vaidla wrote: > Dear Todd, > > Thank you for the feedback! > > While working on the consolidation of the recommendatio

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

2021-10-12 Thread Todd Allen
. Is there a buzzword-to-English translation of it available? Regards, Todd Allen On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:02 AM Kaarel Vaidla wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting > committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-28 Thread Todd Allen
still be irritated about that. But use our funds to actively stomp on our volunteer community, and ignore what they say? Well that's not just disgust. That's anger, and that's what you're seeing. Regards, Todd Allen On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:51 PM Guillaume Paumier wrote: > Hi, > >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-28 Thread Todd Allen
4:39 AM Vi to wrote: > UCOC must surely be ruled out of this list. The reasons behind its > creations are indisputable. > > Anyway donations are collected because of volunteers' work, but should be > mainly bound to readers' (donors') will. > > Vito > > Il giorno mar 28 set

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-28 Thread Todd Allen
Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by the CC license, so I fail to see the problem here. Todd On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 9:12 AM Strainu wrote: > Thank you Andreas, that was exactly what I was looking for. Everybody > seems to agree there is more and more CC4

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Todd Allen
You put in a URL that links to one. And there, you're done. Having a "howto" gadget like that is not the purpose of an article. The purpose of an article is to describe, not have a "simulator". A URL to one on some other site in the external links section might be quite in order, but that is out

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Innovate in Free Knowledge | UNLOCK the power of collaboration!

2022-03-17 Thread Todd Allen
So, what is this actually intended to do? Regards, Todd Allen On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 07:42 Kannika Thaimai wrote: > Dear Movement members, > > The innovation program UNLOCK will soon enter its third edition. At UNLOCK > [1], we support people and communities who are working

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikipedia Library: Accessing free reliable sources is now easier than ever

2022-01-24 Thread Todd Allen
Excellent work. Thanks to all who worked on this project and made it happen. Todd On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 10:10 AM Sam Walton wrote: > Hi all, > > We've just published a blog post summarising the new features and > functionality available to active Wikipedia editors in The Wikipedia > Library:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Next steps: Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) and UCoC Enforcement Guidelines

2022-04-16 Thread Todd Allen
Actually, you're technically even breaching it saying it here, since the mailing list is "outside the Wikimedia projects". I would agree that this needs substantial clarification, especially regarding both spammers and already-public information. Regards, Todd Allen On Fri, Apr 15,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Todd Allen
Well, nothing is stopping you from discussing it anywhere else you like. On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 6:39 AM Ndahiro Derrick Alter wrote: > How amazing it would be , if discussions like these were hosted somewhere > else other than this mailing list  > > derrick > > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 at 13:01

[Wikimedia-l] Re: "Jimmy is back..."

2023-08-29 Thread Todd Allen
Could you provide a copy of the email, or at least its text? When discussing something like this, it's helpful to see exactly what we're talking about. Todd On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 11:07 AM Romaine Wiki wrote: > This was the title of a message on the Help Desk of the Dutch Wikipedia > earlier

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-23 Thread Todd Allen
a "short list" of affiliate-approved candidates. Affiliate seats are NOT community seats. Regards, Todd Allen On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:32 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Chris, > > There is no longer any distinction between community and affiliate > trustees. For reference,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Todd Allen
No. I would prefer them to be selected in open, at-large elections, as they should have been in previous years. On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 04:25 Chris Keating wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 1:13 AM Todd Allen wrote: > >> Yes, and let me say it in stronger terms: Th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter of support for Les sans pagEs

2022-09-20 Thread Todd Allen
It is hard to determine what is being complained about, when the letter does not actually link to any of the threads it complains about. If it did that, it would be much more easily possible for someone to look into the substance of it. It states that it has been linked to "continual bad-faith

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-19 Thread Todd Allen
Or, maybe just require an open disclosure of where the bot pulled from and how much, instead of having it be a black box? "Text in this response derived from: 17% Wikipedia article 'Example', 12% Wikipedia article 'SomeOtherThing', 10%...". On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 10:17 PM Steven Walling wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Opportunities open for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee

2023-03-20 Thread Todd Allen
Hello Brian, It doesn't seem like there are any updates to the reports at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trust_and_Safety/Case_Review_Committee/Monthly_reports#2022. Also, who are these three new members and the seven existing ones? Regards, Todd Allen On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 1:32 PM Brian

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Todd Allen
I'm not so sure Getty's got a case, though. If the images are on the Web, is using them to train an AI something copyright would cover? That to me seems more equivalent to just looking at the images, and there's no copyright problem in going to Getty's site and just looking at a bunch of their

[Wikimedia-l] Re: ChatGPT as a reliable source

2023-05-17 Thread Todd Allen
Though, this does run the risk of encouraging people to take the "backwards" approach to writing an article--writing some stuff, and then (hopefully at least) trying to come up with sources for it. The much superior approach is to locate the available sources first, and then to develop the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Integrating OWID with Wikimedia

2024-04-28 Thread Todd Allen
Ultimately, this seems a case of "Fix it or get out of the way". There was already a suggestion of restoring graphs with the ability to modify them restricted to interface admins. People with IA permissions could, quite frankly, do far more harmful things to user security if they "went rogue"

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