[Wikimedia-l] Re: Joint Statement on Palestine

2024-04-13 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Mopping with the tap open

2024-03-09 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcement: Farewell To Our Esteemed Programs Officer

2024-03-04 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-02-24 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Feedback invited on proposed requirements for affiliates & user groups recognition changes

2024-02-08 Thread Gnangarra
volunteer during weekend. You > should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. Thank you in > advance!* > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-02-07 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-31 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-01-23 Thread Gnangarra
Kaya I'd like to my perspective from wikimania side the amount of effort volunteers and time to bring every session alive on commons is all consuming yes YouTube is the best place to put that content. It gets harder the smaller the event is. Video needs to be addresses as a priority along with

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Hiba Abu Nada, RIP

2023-10-28 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recognition of Wikimedians of Japan User Group

2023-10-19 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: info and credits on labour (Was: Wikimania sessions now on Commons)

2023-10-14 Thread Gnangarra
, Željko Blaće wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 9:34 AM Gnangarra wrote: > > Hi Z > > Gisca co-ordinated the process using a group of volunteers to cut the > daily recordings into single events. Some of them did upload to Commons but > the majority of that effort came from Bu

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimania sessions now on Commons

2023-10-14 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-12 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wiki Loves Africa] 2024 Theme Suggestions

2023-09-05 Thread Gnangarra
s Heritage) and true to anything related to > "awesome landscapes and nature" (=Wiki Loves Earth). > > We gotta be smart, share the space-fund-energy-time, and collaborate when > it makes sense to collaborate, but always keeping in mind to preserve or > enhance the oth

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wiki Loves Africa] 2024 Theme Suggestions

2023-09-05 Thread Gnangarra
ica_2022>: *Home >+ Habitat* > > >- 2023 WLA <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023> : > *Climat >et météo* > > > Très cordialement > ___ &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!

2023-08-01 Thread Gnangarra
oh I need an edit button the fact they dont edit everyday does devalue their effort either. should say "the fact they dont edit everyday* doesnt *devalue their effort either." On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 22:36, Gnangarra wrote: > I think sometimes we do get too wrapped up in the numbe

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!

2023-08-01 Thread Gnangarra
emailclient> >> >> Virus-free.www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lis

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Query about membership to Wikimedia Chapters

2023-05-29 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Announcement] Establishment of Wikimedians of the Asia Pacific User Group

2023-05-26 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

2023-05-06 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-03 Thread Gnangarra
_of_personal_information >>> [3] See e.g. the GDPR-related explanation here: >>> https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/consent/what-is-valid-consent/#what5 >>>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Next steps: Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) and UCoC Enforcement Guidelines

2023-04-25 Thread Gnangarra
I'm concerned on a few points; The difference in the legal rights of individuals to disappear, as eu laws vs us laws vs Chinese laws and host other countries. There is no equity in ucoc outcomes The disparities between a person's capacity make or defend a case based on, language, experience, and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Odp: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-20 Thread Gnangarra
exchange but since it refuses to > stop, and our Australian colleague keeps repeating on "moral > bankruptcy"... As a CEE person I would like to share a different > perspective. > > Dear Gnangarra, I am pretty sure your messages come from good intentions > but in fact they are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-20 Thread Gnangarra
of conditions, is also morally bankrupt. On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 16:02, Peter Southwood wrote: > So leave them to rot because their standard of living is low and their > government is crap? Right. > > > > *From:* Gnangarra [mailto:gnanga...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 18 April 2023 13

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-18 Thread Gnangarra
lopment to cheaper countries is the solution to all of >> WMF software problems, but I think it could help a lot. >> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 8:55 AM Gnangarra wrote: >> >>> or the 3am meetings >>> >>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 19:49, Gnangarra wrote

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-18 Thread Gnangarra
or the 3am meetings On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 19:49, Gnangarra wrote: > Hiring people because they are in such countries as the basis for saving > money is morally bankrupt, yet we'll happily draw from the pool of > donations that primarily come from those more expensive countries. Mu

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-18 Thread Gnangarra
wouldn't amount to a lower standard of living at all, and doesn't feel > immoral, at least to me. > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 8:00 AM Gnangarra wrote: > >> Either we make software development cheaper somehow (move the WMF to >>> Romania or something) >> >> &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-18 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-14 Thread Gnangarra
eveloper Advocate >> https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ >> ___ >> Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wi

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Report on Voter Comments from UCoC Enforcement Guidelines Ratification

2023-03-30 Thread Gnangarra
ia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/HKNRNJCBAVJGJTQ2EAUDESV55HSJJ6HI/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org -- Boodarwun Gnangarra 'ngany dabakarn koorliny arn boodjera dardoon ngalang Nyungar koortaboodjar' __

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines Vote

2023-02-17 Thread Gnangarra
o be made? > > Moving goalposts after a vote has been taken seems very problematic, and > may be at the heart of many of the issues we have with participation in > these kinds of discussions. > > Chico Venancio > > > Em sex., 17 de fev. de 2023 às 00:47, Gnangarra &g

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines Vote

2023-02-16 Thread Gnangarra
.org/message/MK2R3FD2LRBGXU5OXB6QMSX57JFL2YHP/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines Vote

2023-02-14 Thread Gnangarra
r do we have the community resources to revisit and reassess every action that was later found to have involved a person acting in bad faith. Regards Gnangarra On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 at 05:27, Risker wrote: > Just noting in passing that the SecurePoll default for "home wiki" is the &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

2023-01-13 Thread Gnangarra
is increasing by many orders of magnitude. Boodarwun On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 at 02:06, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > @Gnangarra: I would doubt on the idea that Pelé is not relevant to the > English audience, as it was the most visited article by far that d

[Wikimedia-l] Re: @Wikipedia losing opportunities in Twitter

2023-01-13 Thread Gnangarra
imedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/5MHFSBSKJSRIDF5TKH265YZRPOPTZPQA/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Wikimania 2023" gro

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Saudi Arabia jails two Wikipedia staff [SIC] in ‘bid to control content’

2023-01-05 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2022-12-29 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: ChatGPT and Wikipedia

2022-12-19 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Reminder – expressions of interest for Wikimania 2024 and 2025 (deadline December 16th)

2022-12-12 Thread Gnangarra
s://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/FLUVBWPJY5IWIN2LHSUTAUMGCILOSG76/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > -- Boodarwun Gnangarra

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Save the Date: Curationist Launch Celebration and Webinar

2022-11-29 Thread Gnangarra
thank you On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 06:07, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) wrote: > That is 21:00 UTC - or automatically localized times at > https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1670446848 > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 5:45 PM Gnangarra wrote: > >> Can you please provide t

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Save the Date: Curationist Launch Celebration and Webinar

2022-11-28 Thread Gnangarra
Can you please provide the time in utc format On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, 3:30 am Sadik Shahadu, wrote: > Hello, > > You are cordially invited > to > join us for the launch of Curationist.org and for a guided experience of > our new

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Think big! An open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation

2022-10-10 Thread Gnangarra
ttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/F7T6I5GQBUDKE4YQELAQHLZZGRR6TNKF/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > -- Boodarwun Gnangarra 'ngany dabakarn

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

2022-09-20 Thread Gnangarra
t;>>>> leadership! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] Link to the draft defi

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

2022-09-19 Thread Gnangarra
edia México A.C.User:ProtoplasmaKid * >>>> >>>> // Mis comunicaciones respecto a Wikipedia/Wikimedia pueden tener una >>>> moratoria en su atención debido a que es un voluntariado. >>>> // Ayuda a proteger a Wikipedia, dona ahora: >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

2022-09-18 Thread Gnangarra
isJF3KA> >>>>> >>>>> [4] Link to the Movement Strategy Forum post >>>>> <https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/leadership-development-working-group/1404> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [5] Link to the meta page of LD

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Comments Requested on the Revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct

2022-09-08 Thread Gnangarra
dia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Decentralized fundraising, centralized distribution

2022-09-08 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [TOOLHUB] Result of Community Feedback on Toolhub Taxonomy

2022-09-08 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Poll of Wikipedians concludes: Wikimedia fundraising emails are misleading

2022-09-04 Thread Gnangarra
; light of the community feedback received? > > > Best, > > Andreas > > > [1] For more details, including source links and data on the Wikimedia > Foundation’s current financial status, see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-06-26/Special_report

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Is GoogleTV violating Wikipedia's license?

2022-08-30 Thread Gnangarra
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Invitation to join the Movement Strategy Forum

2022-08-20 Thread Gnangarra
Percentages look good, and show some comparison but the reality is the actual raw number say just as much when meta has 4600 and formun has less than 200 and without staff less than 150 its not exactly a like for like engagement. By the end of the survey majority are those who are getting heard

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Reflections about Visa situation for Wikimedians

2022-08-16 Thread Gnangarra
Agree with Bodhi here, contact WMDE they have been doing this conference for many years and should have the networks to help get your application for a visa processed. On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 at 22:20, Bodhisattwa wrote: > Hi Anass, > > Regarding the particular incident with Wikimedia Summit, I

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Seven Wikimedia chapters rejected as permanent observers to the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)

2022-07-25 Thread Gnangarra
reason for Affiliates trying to do this whether its a back door move by the WMF due to it being rejected twice previously. It makes me wonder what other strings are being attached to funding for what should be independent Affiliates. Gnangarra On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 07:52, The Cunctator wrote: &g

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election

2022-07-22 Thread Gnangarra
> > I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need > to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members, This is not some functionary volunteer role, nor is it a scholarship to attend some event. The affiliate and the members of the Board of Trustees

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election

2022-07-21 Thread Gnangarra
ype comments. The reality is if they had succeed they would have to be public so its not like they weren't aware that their nomination was placing them in a potential risk situation anyway. I see no issue here in being transparent in this process. Regards Gnangarra On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 20:25, Ila

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-17 Thread Gnangarra
imilar to Affiliates, and this is where the word > “pilot” comes in. This is intended to indicate the beginning of having Hubs > as established structures with the current infrastructure of communities > that already exists. > > Kind regards > Wojciech, on behalf o

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Affiliations Committee's standing on hubs and its role in the process

2022-07-12 Thread Gnangarra
As hubs are not replacing the relationship between affiliates and affcom, hubs purpose is to serve its community across multiple countries. I can see the value in Affcom sharing some of its experiences but I caution against the building of deeper power structures that widen the gap between

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Goodbye and see you around

2022-06-29 Thread Gnangarra
Hi Biyanto Sad to see you leave WMID, but I hope that your studies go well and enjoy yourself in Sweden. I also hope you keep involved with ESEAP as your insights have always been appreciated Good Luck Gnangarra On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 17:59, Biyanto Rebin wrote: > Dear all, > >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

2022-06-20 Thread Gnangarra
a valuable long term respectable, trustworthy, reliable, and neutral partner organisation. Boodarwun Gnangarra On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 20:06, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Hi Gnangarra and all, > > I only mentioned how little money went to India in 2020/2021 because of > the WMF's rece

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

2022-06-19 Thread Gnangarra
It doesn't matter where the money goes, everyone benefits and there was a period where the WMF was doing a lot of work in India without fundraising there. Its all relative Australia was contributing over 2m per year(highest per capita of anywhere at the time) yet there was nothing being spent in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Global Conversations on Regional and Thematic Hubs on June 24, 25 and 26

2022-06-14 Thread Gnangarra
people from across Asia(not just ESEAP) have the opportunity to participate with a similar level of understanding. Regards Gnangarra On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 at 07:25, Cornelius Kibelka wrote: > Hello everyone, > > thanks for being patient with us. As announced previously, WMF's Movement &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

2022-05-19 Thread Gnangarra
I would hope the UCoC gives us the tools to address many of these long delays. In all cases no matter how long the process when it is completed, the goals have shifted, there's new people, and they will one day want their say. It all comes down to one simple little idea that was the foundation

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Apply to join the Leadership Development Working Group!

2022-03-30 Thread Gnangarra
ifferently. On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 07:56, Gnangarra wrote: > You miss the point we do this as volunteers: a stipend isn't necessary. > It's a just nice way to say thankyou for your time, offering it up may help > some people who would make great mentors being able to dedic

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Apply to join the Leadership Development Working Group!

2022-03-29 Thread Gnangarra
n from some minority groups with reasonable additional > needs. > > Lane > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 13:01, Gnangarra wrote: > > > > stipends aren't meant to cover every cost for the volunteer, its an > acknowledgement that as volunteers we do incur costs we can alw

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Apply to join the Leadership Development Working Group!

2022-03-29 Thread Gnangarra
Sorry meant to say every second month, to be honest as mentors we should be doing it to help others grow and help the movement grow not for the stipend anyway On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 20:00, Gnangarra wrote: > stipends aren't meant to cover every cost for the volunteer, its an > acknowled

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Apply to join the Leadership Development Working Group!

2022-03-29 Thread Gnangarra
stipends aren't meant to cover every cost for the volunteer, its an acknowledgement that as volunteers we do incur costs we can always choose not to contribute. $200 a month yeah thats nice when your in the US, EU or AU for other less well off countries it does make a difference for them. It'd be

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

2022-03-12 Thread Gnangarra
apologies to anyone that mistook the way I criticized English On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 21:19, Gnangarra wrote: > I really should be separating these responses into two threads, but they > are part of this discussion, and need to be addressed appropriately. The > first was that employing in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

2022-03-10 Thread Gnangarra
e WMF can never fulfill your needs and keep an open argument rolling along because maybe you hit another nerve, maybe you'll find people joining the cause because hey they have found something in common. As much as I would hate to start a refreshed Mike Goodwin principle, this is comparable to the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

2022-03-09 Thread Gnangarra
> > > I think great care has to be taken when considering a place with low costs of living for employee's in that the movement does not become yet another corporation that exploits workers because it is cheaper, especially when we are claiming it as improving cultural diversity. I would much

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Announcements] Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month: We are back in 2022!

2022-02-24 Thread Gnangarra
Given previous experience, past examples of this project editors are free to make any contributions so I see no issue with governments, institutions or even private corporations supporting knowledge sharing activity. The best time to share knowledge is now, the second best is when its under

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Seeking community recommendations for Equity Fund grantees

2022-01-27 Thread Gnangarra
Perhaps the Equity Fund could invest a few million in developing, building, and sustaining the Community Tech team to help it fix all the underlying problems that continue to plague the projects. They could then provide equity of coverage across all projects, improve participation across all

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2022-01-26 Thread Gnangarra
t to want to come out with a rough ordering of the >> "larger" list as well as the traditional ordering of smaller wishes. >> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 6:51 AM Gnangarra wrote: >> >>> Kaya >>> >>> As was said we should put forward wishes

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2022-01-25 Thread Gnangarra
we were told was not going happen this year. I'll go back to my original response the Wishlist is broken and doesnt serve the communities needs On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 15:12, Szymon Grabarczuk wrote: > Dear Gnangarra and everyone who feels misinformed, > > Please take into account

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2022-01-24 Thread Gnangarra
so much for all the assurances here https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Multimedia_and_Commons/General_maintenance,_outstanding_phabricator_tickets=next=22663179 Out of scope for our team, which I hope is obvious On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 12:26, Gnangarra

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Commons-l] Re: General Maintenance at Commons

2022-01-22 Thread Gnangarra
Two Factor Authentication(TFA), have expanded in the proposal On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 14:57, 4nn1l2 <4nn1l2.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks! > > What's tfa? > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 8:01 AM Gnangarra wrote: > >> Kaya >> >> I have created a wishli

[Wikimedia-l] General Maintenance at Commons

2022-01-22 Thread Gnangarra
Kaya I have created a wishlist for Commons to have all the phabricator tickets(approximately 900) fixed, the video upload issues to be fixed, tfa to be added to existing tools. Via a team of Staff and volunteers being created to focus on Commons. Two fold fix the existing problems, and then

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2022-01-22 Thread Gnangarra
; > maintenance related. For example, in the last year, we took on >> > improvement projects for Wikisource Export and Wikisource OCR >> > tools, among other initiatives. We also maintain and fix all the >> > tools we’ve

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Re: Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-11 Thread Gnangarra
Amir you raise a good point how do things get into the next budget, the simple answer is first to have people/teams responsible for each of the projects. Having someone accountable stops the ball being dropped as easily, it means WMF starts looking at needs on longer timetables. We've seen this

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Commons-l] Re: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-10 Thread Gnangarra
Its one thing allowing access and supporting volunteers, its another to be abrogating it's responsibility to ensure the stable running of the projecst for which its collecting millions of dollars in donations every year. WMF key purpose is to provide the infrastructure need for every project to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are we losing our readers?

2022-01-08 Thread Gnangarra
Falling readers means less awareness of being able to edit, that means less contributors, and less donations. Over the last 10 years we've put a lot of effort and support into the basic contribution processes, but the contributions need to shift to more of what our new audiences are expecting

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Award of the Year - Call for Nominations

2022-01-08 Thread Gnangarra
I can understand the indeed for all the publications to be published in one common language, to enable easier comparison between works and to be able to share the work across more of the community so we can benefit from the work. Perhaps there can be some support provided by the WMF to enable

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2022-01-05 Thread Gnangarra
is the tech team to have a specialist contact for each project so that project specific issues can be highlighted to someone who can translate between contributors who dont have the tech knowledge or language to assist issues being clearly reported. Boodarwun Gnangarra On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 01:43

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2022-01-02 Thread Gnangarra
thank you Geni > HandBrake can transcode dirrect to WebM these days. > On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 13:40, geni wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 06:13, Gnangarra wrote: > > We found work arounds mostly by paying for 3rd commercial software to do > the conversion to webm then hoping

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Commons-l] Re: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-01 Thread Gnangarra
I see part of the problem is that the contributors experiencing the biggest impact arent the same contributors that have the technical skill sets to appropriately explain and understand the issues. Adding the the need to be able to make comparisons between other areas of need just makes its even

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2021-12-30 Thread Gnangarra
> > Core challenges like Commons stability + capacity deserve their own > thread! I believe the wishlist is traditionally for something else. There is nowhere else to raise these issue, especially for people like me who are photographers not a software and tech person. I know the phabricator

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2021-12-30 Thread Gnangarra
unctional should be the work of employees and the WMF. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > *From:* Gnangarra [mailto:gnanga...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 29 December 2021 07:37 > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List > *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2021-12-29 Thread Gnangarra
c to this thread. > > [1] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/WMPZHMXSLQJ6GONAVTFLDFFMPNJDVORS/ > [2] There is a classic book in this topic called "The Mythical Man-month" > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 11:41 AM Gnangarra w

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2021-12-29 Thread Gnangarra
. * 2021* *Celebrating 20 years of Wikipedia* Wikimania: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnangarra Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page My print shop: https://www.redbubble.com/people

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us and prepare

2021-12-28 Thread Gnangarra
aspect of the WMF work has been put on hold while reviews into the systems take place. I think it's time to put new development on hold or at least limit priority and capacity then focus efforts on updating and upgrading existing tools. If those tools cant be fixed, rewrite them from scratch Gnangarra

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fwd: Meta, WikiMedia, and the Hewlett Foundation partner with Africa No Filter

2021-12-22 Thread Gnangarra
intention will never be to create competing priorities, > >> yet we don't think it's also feasible to consult each and every > >> opportunity at hand, creating even extra work for volunteers. We > >> believe there's a delicate balance, and the Foundation continues to do > >> i

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Wikimedia Affiliates Environmental Sustainability Covenant

2021-12-21 Thread Gnangarra
___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wi

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Approval of Human Rights Policy

2021-12-21 Thread Gnangarra
ts.wikimedia.org -- GN. * 2021* *Celebrating 20 years of Wikipedia* Wikimania: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnangarra Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page My print shop: https://www.redbubbl

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fwd: Meta, WikiMedia, and the Hewlett Foundation partner with Africa No Filter

2021-12-08 Thread Gnangarra
respect for us Regards Gnangarra On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 03:39, Yael Weissburg wrote: > Thank you, Jorge, for this thoughtful and clear response. > > Florence, Xavier, and others: I know there's often good reason to message > Wikimedia-l, and also to let you know that you can always re

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small gratitude to our fellow wikimedians

2021-11-08 Thread Gnangarra
ting 20 years of Wikipedia* Wikimania: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnangarra Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page My print shop: https://www.redbubble.com/people/Gnangarra/shop?asc=u ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wiki

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

2021-11-02 Thread Gnangarra
blic archives at > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/CPAGKMUE4GWG6ZE4OEXV62NXHO7RW7TT/ > > < > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/CPAGKMUE4GWG6ZE4OEXV62NXHO7RW7TT/ > &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members

2021-11-02 Thread Gnangarra
ikimedia.org, >>>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> Public archives at >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/7RNSNN3F2U

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-26 Thread Gnangarra
nated (by themselves, none the less), and they work for WMF > BoT (they are a committee of the BoT), and answer to none other than WMF > BoT. So yes, I'm pretty sure these principles do fully apply to them. > > Best, > Paulo > > Gnangarra escreveu no dia terça, 26/10/2021 à(s) >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Investigation of possible AffCom's violations - your input welcomed!

2021-10-25 Thread Gnangarra
forum and will never have the ability for everyone who has read your rant to get a clear outcome. As an employee future employers will also see these threads, again they wont find resolutions or any apology. Act respectfully and take your issues to AFFCOM or to the WMF employees line manager privately

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Regarding a series of serious office actions / 有关于一系列的办事处行动

2021-09-15 Thread Gnangarra
rg/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page My print shop: https://www.redbubble.com/people/Gnangarra/shop?asc=u ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikime

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