Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 139, Issue 44

[Jon Davies]

One of those amazing outcomes that any amount of 'bean counting' cannot
predict. Hera is amazing.




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On 13 October 2015 at 04:42, 
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>1. Interesting - and helpful - blog post (Richard Symonds)
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>3. Re: Interesting - and helpful - blog post (Rachel diCerbo)
>4. Re: Thoughts on carrying the Wikimania conversation   forward
>   (Gnangarra)
>5. Re: Interesting - and helpful - blog post (Pine W)
>6. Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] ‘Save the date’ for
>   Wikipedia’s 15th birthday (Samantha Lien)
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> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:55:55 +0100
> From: Richard Symonds 
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> All,
>
> I thought it would be helpful to share with you all this blog post from a
> key volunteer at Wikimania 2014, who has gone on to launch a domestic
> violence charity on a shoestring budget.
>
> It explains how she went about it, what their workflows are, how they
> attract and keep volunteers, how they use open licensing to make a real
> difference in a non-open-movement group. I've already got some great new
> ideas from it, and it has ideas that could help all of us, from the WMF to
> WMIE.
>
> Key reading, I think, for those who have even a small group of Wikimedia
> volunteers and no budget!
>
> It's at
>
> https://medium.com/@hera/running-a-fluid-and-democratic-volunteer-run-organisation-3538e12c699e
>
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
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> Hera is an awesome person. So happy to see her doing well!
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 at 22:56 Richard Symonds <
> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I thought it would be helpful to share with you all this blog post from a
> > key volunteer at Wikimania 2014, who has gone on to launch a domestic
> > violence charity on a shoestring budget.
> >
> > It explains how she went about it, what their workflows are, how they
> > attract and keep volunteers, how they use open licensing to make a real
> > difference in a non-open-movement group. I've already got some great new
> > ideas from it, and it has ideas that could help all of us, from the WMF
> to
> > WMIE.
> >
> > Key reading, I think, for those who have even a small group of Wikimedia
> > volunteers and no budget!
> >
> > It's at
> >
> >
> https://medium.com/@hera/running-a-fluid-and-democratic-volunteer-run-organisation-3538e12c699e
> >
> >
> > Richard Symonds
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[Wikimedia-l] Au revoir Jan

[Jon Davies]

And welcome to the ex CEO club!  Come and see me in London soon!
Well done for all you did,
Jon Davies




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On 8 October 2015 at 10:10,  wrote:

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>1. Re: I'll be moving on (Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland)
>2. Re: I'll be moving on (Gerard Meijssen)
>3. Re: I'll be moving on (Jane Darnell)
>4. Re: I'll be moving on (Alice Wiegand)
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> Hi Jan,
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> I am very, very sorry to see you go.  You are a wonderful colleague -  and
> a source of sanity and calm in the group of chapter ED's.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sandra
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> Sandra Rientjes
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> 2015-10-08 10:22 GMT+02:00 Jan Ainali :
>
> > All,
> >
> > For the last three years I have been the Executive Director for Wikimedia
> > Sverige. Before that I have been Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary of the
> > board (at different times) and have been involved since the founding of
> the
> > chapter in 2007. It is perhaps even an understatement to say that the
> > chapter has been a big part of my life. I have had the opportunity to be
> > part of a fantastic journey from starting the first chapter’s activities
> to
> > today, with stable strategic activities, seven people in the office, and
> a
> > diversified board. It has been an awesome time in my life and I have met
> > and worked with some truly wonderful persons along the way, and I am
> > thankful to all of you that have made it so inspiring. But now, as my
> > contract is about to come to an end, I feel that it is time for me to
> move
> > on to new endeavours. I am confident that the chapter is already in good
> > hands, with a professional board and an office with experienced staff
> > members and functional processes, but I’ll be around until at least the
> > beginning of January to make it a smooth transition.
> >
> > I will obviously always be a wikimedian at heart and probably pick up on
> my
> > editing again and I will also stay subscribed to most mailing lists. If
> not
> > earlier, I’ll see you in Esino Lario.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Jan Ainali*
> > Executive director, Wikimedia Sverige <http://wikimedia.se>
> >
> >
> >
> > *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till
> mänsklighetens
> > samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.*
> > Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 136, Issue 47

[Jon Davies]

 their objectives are to represent
> > both
> > > Belarusian Wikipedias (classical and academic) in international
> > relations;
> > > to widen media presence and public awareness about Belarusian
> Wikipedias'
> > > community activities; and to make collaborative projects with other
> > > interest groups, social initiatives, NGOs and local communities in
> > Belarus
> > > and abroad.
> > >
> > > Please join us in welcoming a new member of the family! :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > 1:
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Belarus_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
> > > --
> > > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee
> wayuukanairua
> > > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya
> junain."
> > > Carlos M. Colina
> > > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 |
> > www.wikimedia.org.ve
> > > <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
> > > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> > > Phone: +972-52-4869915
> > > Twitter: @maor_x
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Asaf Bartov
> > Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
> >
> > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:43:09 -0500
> From: Raymond Leonard 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG
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> Welcome to the Iranian Wikimedians User Group!
>
> Yours,
> Peaceray <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peaceray>
> Cascadia Wikimedians User Group <http://cascadia.wiki>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Shlomi Fish 
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:20:56 -0700
> > Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations and much success!
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> >
> > Congratulations, good luck, and welcome aboard!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
> > --
> > -
> > Shlomi Fish   http://www.shlomifish.org/
> > Summer Glau Facts - http://shlom.in/sglau-facts
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

[Jon Davies]

And next the wine project? Count me in.

On 24 November 2014 at 18:22, Christophe Henner  wrote:

> Good news everyone,
>
> Cheese articles are gonna get improved!
>
> As french, it was dreadful for us to see so few illustrations of cheese on
> Wikipedia. This is about to change.
>
> A group of french Wikimedians, lead by Pierre-Yves Beaudouin, designed a
> project to photograph many cheeses, up to 200 for the moment.
>
> This project is perticular as we aim to have it found through a french
> crowdfunding platform, KissKissBankBank.
>
> Of course Wikimedia France could have funded it itself, but we wanted to
> use the project as a way to get the larger audience aware of their ability
> to contribute and to give a fun image of contributing.
>
> The project in few words iss follow :
> * 10 cheeses per session
> * During the session the cheeses are photographed and their articles
> improved
> * During the sessions experimented wikimedian would train new editors
> * At every session every participant would enjoy eating good cheese too
>
> If you want to read more, or even contribute, about the project you can go
> on KissKissBankBank :
> http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/fr/projects/wikicheese
>
>
> If you have any questions, please feel free to shoot them on or off list.
>
> All the best,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Jon Davies]

Where do we meet - is there a meeting room big enough?

On 13 November 2014 15:34, Osmar Valdebenito 
wrote:

> Thanks Jon for your work with Wikimedia UK and welcome to the ex-EDs group
> :)
>
> 2014-11-13 9:04 GMT-03:00 Jon Davies :
>
> > Thanks Erik.
> >
> > On 12 November 2014 17:42, Erik Moeller  wrote:
> >
> > > Jon --
> > >
> > > Thank you all the hard work for the movement, and for building a great
> > team
> > > and great foundations!  Hope to see you in different corners of the
> > > movement & globe.
> > >
> > > Warmly,
> > > Erik
> > > --
> > > Erik Möller
> > > VP of Product & Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Jon Davies]

Thanks Erik.

On 12 November 2014 17:42, Erik Moeller  wrote:

> Jon --
>
> Thank you all the hard work for the movement, and for building a great team
> and great foundations!  Hope to see you in different corners of the
> movement & globe.
>
> Warmly,
> Erik
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[Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Jon Davies]

With some sadness I have to tell you that I will be leaving Wikimedia UK,
as an employee, if not as a volunteer, at the end of the year. I have
achieved what I set out to do and leave WMUK in a good state. I now need to
look for new challenges.

I was the first chief executive and it has been an amazing three years
watching the chapter grow and develop. It has not always been smooth
sailing but we have come through it together in good shape. Wikimania
proved how professional we had become and the positive feedback from the
participants makes all the work we put in worthwhile.

My heartfelt thanks to everyone in the community, particularly the
volunteers who are at the heart of all we do, my great colleagues at the
Foundation and the loyal and hardworking staff at WMUK who have supported
me so ably and with such good humour over the years.

My best wishes go to my successor in all they seek to achieve.

Cyhoeddiad gan Jon

Gyda pheth tristwch rwy'n eich hysbysu y byddaf yn gadael Wikimedia UK, fel
cyflogai, os nad

fel gwirfoddolwr, ar ddiwedd y flwyddyn. Dw i wedi cyflawni'r hyn roeddwn
wedi'i obeithio a dw

i'n gadael WMUK ar delerau da. Edrychaf ymlaen rwan am sialensau newydd. Fi
oedd y Prif Weithredwr cyntaf ac mae'r dair blynedd diwethaf wedi bod yn
hollol anhygoel,

wrth i mi weld y siaptr yn tyfu a datblygu. Doedd y daith bob amser ddim yn
llyfn, ond daethom drwyddi'n y diwedd yn ddianaf! Profodd Wikimania inni
aeddfedu mewn modd proffesiynol a chafwyd adborth adeiladol gan y cyfranwyr
­oedd yn gwneud yr holl waith yn bleser.

Carwn ddiolch o waelod fy ngalon i bawb o fewn ein cymuned, yn enwedig y
gwirfoddolwyr sy'n sylfaen i'n gwaith, fy nghydweithwyr bendigedig yn
Sylfaen Wikimedia a'r staff sydd wedi bod mor driw i mi, wedi fy nghefnogi
mor effeithiol ac wedi gweithio mor arbennig o galed dros y blynyddoedd ­ a
hynny gyda hiwmor iach. Dymunaf pob llwyddiant i f'olynydd ym mhopeth y
ceisiant ei gyflawni.

Jon.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

[Jon Davies]

I had a quick play and was pleased with the end result. Good job.

On 11 November 2014 05:35, Erik Moeller  wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Erik Moeller  wrote:
> > Indeed, highly specialized tools for the cultural and education sector
> > _are_ being developed and hosted inside Tool Labs or externally.
> > Looking at the current OAuth consumer requests [5], there are
> > submissions for a metadata editor developed by librarians at the
> > University of Miami Libraries in Coral Gables, Florida, and an
> > assignment creation wizard developed by the Wiki Education Foundation.
>
> The Wiki Education Foundation just introduced its Assignment Wizard,
> which is being developed with the help of an outside agency. As this
> tool develops, there may be opportunities for sharing experiences with
> other Wikimedia organizations:
>
> http://wikiedu.org/blog/2014/11/07/user-testing-assignment-design-wizard/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos?

[Jon Davies]

+1 really inspirational and being in another language just adds to our
international feel.

On 22 October 2014 14:59, Stevie Benton 
wrote:

> I've seen the video Ivan refers to and agree that it is most excellent.
>
> Stevie
>
> On 22 October 2014 14:57, Ivan Martínez  wrote:
>
> > Dear Andy: our friends of Wikimedia Argentina produced this professional
> > video about What is Wikipedia? with a nice production and a professional
> > actress.
> >
> > http://youtu.be/tRbWDGbBAHA
> >
> > It is also available in Commons with subtitles. I can translate to
> English
> > if you need.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  El oct 22, 2014 7:41 a.m., "Andy Mabbett" 
> > escribió:
> >
> > > [NB: cross-posted]
> > >
> > > I'm in need of a couple of short videos, promoting Wikipedia and its
> > > sister projects, to show at an event. It's surprisingly hard to find
> > > them!
> > >
> > > We have lots of videos in:
> > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_project_videos
> > >
> > > but many, while no doubt useful for their educational content, are not
> > > the kind of things to show to a lay audience - either the quality is
> > > not high enough, or the content is too specific.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for things with impact, like
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AOpen_Letter_for_Free_Access_to_Wikipedia_-_three_months_later%2C_MTN_responds.webm
> > >
> > > Suggestions, please! 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 expenses

[Jon Davies]

Fae,
In retrospect having a big box for the expenses claims was not the best
idea and that was one reason we did an email chase up a while back. I am
sure your claim will be dealt with properly and quickly. Please get it to
us ASAP.
Jon


On 29 September 2014 13:58, Fæ  wrote:

> Thanks Jon,
>
> I put my claim in to the box with all other expenses forms from
> volunteers in the Wikimania control room, I think on the day before
> the UK chapter AGM. It would be a remarkable coincidence if the only
> claim the chapter has lost, was also from the only volunteer in the
> history of Wikimedia UK who has had their membership payment rejected
> by you.
>
> I'll reconstruct my claim and email it in. As my original claim of £14
> was a friendly under-estimate of my travel costs, I expect this
> version will be larger.
>
> Fae
>
> On 29/09/2014, Jon Davies  wrote:
> > PS We have checked, as we prioritised volunteer expenses naturally. We
> > cannot find your claim - how was it sent? Can you re-submit?
> >
> > If anyone else has had problems let me know.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On 29 September 2014 09:41, Jon Davies 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Apologies - we have been dealing with literally hundreds of payments. We
> >> has tried to prioritise volunteers in actual fact but if yours has not
> >> been
> >> paid this needs to be remedied. It is possible that yours has been lost
> -
> >> please contact me directly with the details and I will chase them.
> >> Jon
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 expenses

[Jon Davies]

PS We have checked, as we prioritised volunteer expenses naturally. We
cannot find your claim - how was it sent? Can you re-submit?

If anyone else has had problems let me know.

Jon

On 29 September 2014 09:41, Jon Davies  wrote:

> Apologies - we have been dealing with literally hundreds of payments. We
> has tried to prioritise volunteers in actual fact but if yours has not been
> paid this needs to be remedied. It is possible that yours has been lost -
> please contact me directly with the details and I will chase them.
> Jon
>
> On 29 September 2014 09:27, Fæ  wrote:
>
>> It's now over 50 days since I put in my (trivial) claim for £14 at
>> Wikimania. Are other volunteers having a problem getting paid what
>> they are due? Leaving volunteers hanging for their promised expenses
>> for a couple of months seems almost careless.
>>
>> Hopefully speakers and trustees with significant expenses were paid
>> more promptly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Fae
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Fæ 
>> Date: 25 September 2014 09:08
>> Subject: Wikimania expenses
>> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list 
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Checking my bank account I can't find any payment of my 14 quid of
>> travel expenses from volunteering at Wikimania. Have other volunteers
>> had payments yet?
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2014 expenses

[Jon Davies]

Apologies - we have been dealing with literally hundreds of payments. We
has tried to prioritise volunteers in actual fact but if yours has not been
paid this needs to be remedied. It is possible that yours has been lost -
please contact me directly with the details and I will chase them.
Jon

On 29 September 2014 09:27, Fæ  wrote:

> It's now over 50 days since I put in my (trivial) claim for £14 at
> Wikimania. Are other volunteers having a problem getting paid what
> they are due? Leaving volunteers hanging for their promised expenses
> for a couple of months seems almost careless.
>
> Hopefully speakers and trustees with significant expenses were paid
> more promptly.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Fæ 
> Date: 25 September 2014 09:08
> Subject: Wikimania expenses
> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list 
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Checking my bank account I can't find any payment of my 14 quid of
> travel expenses from volunteering at Wikimania. Have other volunteers
> had payments yet?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Jessie's IDEO adventure

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Au Jessie revoir and thanks. xx

On 18 September 2014 18:43, Dariusz Jemielniak  wrote:

> Jessie has been a tremendous help in the FDC process, and her
> professionalism will be difficult to replace. I hope she'll be back!
>
> Dariusz Jemielniak "pundit"
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Anasuya Sengupta  >
> wrote:
>
> > Dear friends and colleagues,
> >
> > Many of who have already heard from Jessie in multiple ways, but for
> those
> > who haven't: Jessie Wild, who currently heads the Learning and Evaluation
> > team in the Grantmaking department at WMF, is leaving for a year's
> > fellowship with Ideo.[1] Her last day at the Foundation is tomorrow.
> >
> >
> > We are going to miss her. Jessie has been an extraordinary and integral
> > part of WMF for the last four years, and demonstrated her initiative,
> > insight and leadership in each of the positions she’s ably held here. For
> > many of you, you may remember Jessie's first role was part of the
> > consultant team working on the 5 year strategy. Most recently and
> > importantly, she’s led the Learning and Evaluation team in the past year
> to
> > do some significant baseline research and impact analyses of our grants
> and
> > programs across the movement. This is work that lays the foundation for a
> > great deal of our strategic vision and direction going forward. Thank you
> > so much, Jessie, for all your strategic leadership, but even more: thank
> > you for who you are, and the heart you’ve always brought to your team,
> WMF
> > and the communities we support.
> >
> > We are hoping that Jessie will rejoin us when she’s completed this
> > brilliant opportunity at IDEO (she’s one of four chosen from over 450
> > applicants!). However, the work we are doing with all of you on impact
> and
> > strategic outcomes for the movement is urgent and will need to be ramped
> up
> > even further over this year. We will be opening up this position to lead
> > the L&E team soon, and keep you posted on it.
> >
> > Jessie, thank you again for all your manifold contributions.
> >
> > Warmly,
> >
> > Anasuya
> >
> > [1] http://www.ideo.org/fellows
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group

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Great stuff, well done. You can count on WMUK support.

On 14 September 2014 02:51, Kirill Lokshin  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group [2].  The group is
> focused on developing the community of LGBT Wikimedians and LGBT content
> within Wikimedia projects, and plans to be active around the world.
>
> Let's welcome them to the family of Wikimedia affiliates!
>
> Regards,
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> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT/Portal
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow or not to Flow

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+1

On 8 September 2014 16:43, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> a) This discussion actually belongs to a talk page on Meta or
> Mediawiki.org, for example :-)
>
> b) All my experience in teaching Wikipedia tells me that the talk page
> system is absolutely outdated and inappropriate. It is, sorry to use this
> word, *ridiculous* that you have to teach people how to communicate
> technically in Wikipedia. I never had to explain to someone how to do that
> on Facebook...
>
> As other people have pointed it out already, if you are already accustomed
> to the Wikipedia user interface for a longer time, you might find it
> difficult to fully understand what is the problem for newbies. And how big
> this is a problem, and how important it is to solve this problem.
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
>
>
> Am Montag, 8. September 2014 schrieb Risker :
>
> > Well, I think that the "article editing" project (i.e., VE)  has a huge
> > potential for also resolving a lot of discussion space issues.  I don't
> see
> > tacking on yet another UI as being a positive for new editor introduction
> > or retention, and cannot think of another significant site that has two
> > such wildly divergent interfaces (one very flexible and the other very
> > rigid in structure), except perhaps in the mobile vs. desktop situation.
> >
> > I dunno, Marc.  There are different expectations about signature,
> depending
> > on the target group.  We still have people being freaked out that article
> > histories contain their username or IP (a form of automatic signature),
> so
> > I'm not convinced that there's an expectation on the part of new users
> that
> > anything they write anywhere will automatically be signed.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> >
> > On 8 September 2014 10:24, Marc A. Pelletier  > > wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/08/2014 10:18 AM, Risker wrote:
> > > > The most obvious one is automatic signing of comments, and it is
> > > > something that we have technically been able to impose for years;
> > sinebot
> > > > didn't come into existence in a vacuum.
> > >
> > > I suppose that's a philosophical divergence between us then - that
> > > sinebot even needs to exist to me is demonstration that the system is
> > > broken.
> > >
> > > You say that discussion isn't all that much harder than editing
> content.
> > >  Even if I agreed with that (and I do not, edit conflicts in articles
> > > are much rarer than on talk pages - and usually easier to sort out),
> > > that's not a *good* thing!
> > >
> > > Participating in discussion should be much, *much* easier than editing
> > > articles: encouraging newbies to seek help and participate in the
> > > community *before* diving in anything but trivial article edits would
> be
> > > an immensely powerful retention tool!
> > >
> > > (Which isn't to say that editing articles doesn't *also* need a lot of
> > > help - but that's a different project).
> > >
> > > -- Marc
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Court Victory in Italy

[Jon Davies]

Great work Michelle, Geoff and the team.
Any special mplications europewide?
Jon


On 23 July 2014 06:35, Nurunnaby Chowdhury  wrote:

> Wow..Great victory for Wikimedia Movement!
> Congratulation.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Anna Stillwell  >
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> > Congratulations. Let's hear it for, "paving the way for more robust free
> > speech protections on the Internet under Italian law."
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Mateus Nobre 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's great. A great victory for Wikimedia Movement!
> > > I have an scientifc article written about The civil liability on
> > Wikipedia
> > > Information, and this result directly comproves my thesis.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Michelle Paulson <
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> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has won a
> > significant
> > > > defamation lawsuit in Italy brought by Italian politician, Antonio
> > > > Angelucci, and his son, Giampaolo.
> > > >
> > > > You can read more about this victory on the Wikimedia blog:
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> > >
> >
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/07/22/victory-in-italy-based-on-freedom-of-users/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commonwealth Games

[Jon Davies]

Not that I know of.


On 22 July 2014 14:48, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> Do we have anyone at the Commonwealth Games?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteer Support Workshop - correction

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteer Support Workshop - correction

[Jon Davies]

Dirk - I believe the meet up is now in the William Blake Pub  - you need to
change the location on the page.

http://www.thewilliamblake.co.uk/find-us/

Jon


2014-07-18 13:00 GMT+01:00 Dirk Franke :

> Dear list readers,
>
> I apologize for the inconvience, but have to make a small correcton.
>
> The Volunteer Support Workshop will happen on
>
> Thursday, August 7(!)
>
> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pre-conference:_Volunteer_Support
>
> not the day before as previously stated.
>
> Best wishes,
> Dirk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] On historical event / WMRS Microgrants 2014

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le if you show that you are friendly.
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> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matica_srpska
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New website for the New England Wikimedians user group

[Jon Davies]

Great photo - hope to see lots of you in London at Wikimania.


On 14 July 2014 05:32, Kevin Rutherford  wrote:

> Hello Fellow Wikimedians,
>
> I am pleased to announce that New England Wikimedians’ user group website
> has officially launched, and is located at ne-wikimedians.org/. I would
> also like to extend a huge thanks to Wikimedia DC's Technical
> Infrastructure Committee for helping make this site a possibility, as they
> were quite instrumental in ensuring that everything worked out in the end.
>
> As always, if anyone has any questions or suggestions, please feel free to
> e-mail me.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiknic reports and photos

[Jon Davies]

Some party!


On 7 July 2014 14:16, Itzik Edri  wrote:

> We also hosted Wiknic last Friday (to celebrate HEWP 11th anniversary):
>
>
> https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%9E%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%9E%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%A9_%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A5_2014/%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Wiknic New York City 2014:
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_one.jpg
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_two.jpg
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikNYC_July_6,_2014_three.jpg
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014_WikNYC_by_Elias_Friedman.jpg
> >
> > Wiknic Seattle 2014:
> >
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seattle_Wiknic_2014_minus_2_attendees.jpg
> >
> > I attended the Seattle event which featured 13 people, a quadcopter,
> foods
> > based on recipes from multiple continents, and a wide range of
> intelligent
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

[Jon Davies]

As ever thanks Magnus.


On 4 July 2014 05:48, Pine W  wrote:

> Nice work.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Pete Forsyth 
> wrote:
>
> > David, thanks for posting that link here.
> >
> > Magnus, it looks like you've made (yet another) excellent tool, and
> > described the problem it aims to alleviate in an eloquent and accessible
> > way.
> >
> > Great to see a step forward in this area!
> > Pete
> > [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you, Magnus!
> > >
> > > (add wikimedia-l to cc)
> > >
> > >
> > > - d.
> > >
> > > On 3 July 2014 21:47, Magnus Manske 
> wrote:
> > > > An attempt to alleviate the tensions caused by file deletions on
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

[Jon Davies]

Thanks Dab - downloaded. The 'night mode' or 'under the blankets' seems a
good idea.


On 25 June 2014 19:28, Dan Garry  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
> Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
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> Play <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia>.
>
> Our new features include:
>
>- *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
>faster than ever before.
>- *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
>out, we thank you for all your contributions.
>- *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
>tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
>- *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
>browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
>- *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
>of all human knowledge.
>- *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
>reading Wikipedia written in any language.
>- *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
>world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many
> developing
>areas.
>
> Coming soon:
>
>- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
>feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
>inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
>- *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
>new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.
>
> This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
> new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
> experience out there.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

[Jon Davies]

Thanks Erik,
This is certainly something we are keen to work on. I was talking to Magnus
just last night and of course our experience with Europeana has taught us a
lot )I hope we have fully learnt the messages!).
We are undertaking a scoping review of our Development plans at the moment
and this will be part of the consideration.

Jon


On 26 June 2014 04:54, Erik Moeller  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> At the Zurich Hackathon, I met with a couple of folks from WM-CH who
> were interested in talking about ways that chapters can get involved
> in engineering/product development, similar to WM-DE's work on
> Wikidata.
>
> My recommendation to them was to consider working on GLAM-related
> tooling. This includes helping improve some of the reporting tools
> currently running in Labs (primarily developed by the illustrious and
> wonderful Magnus Manske in his spare time), but also meeting other
> requirements identified by the GLAM community [1] and potentially
> helping with the development of more complex MediaWiki-integrated
> tools like the GLAMWiki-Toolset.
>
> There's work that only WMF is well positioned to do (like feeding all
> media view data into Hadoop and providing generalized reports and
> APIs), but a lot of work in the aforementioned categories could be
> done by any chapter and could easily be scaled up from 1 to 2 to 3
> FTEs and beyond as warranted. That's because a lot of the tools are
> separate from MediaWiki, so code review and integration requirements
> are lower, and it's easier for technically proficient folks to help.
>
> In short, I think this could provide a nice on-ramp for a chapter or
> chapters to support the work of volunteers in the cultural sector with
> appropriate technology. This availability of appropriate technology is
> clearly increasingly a distinguishing factor for Wikimedia relative to
> more commercial offerings in its appeal to the cultural sector.
>
> At the same time, WMF itself doesn't currently prioritize work with
> the cultural sector very highly, which I think is appropriate given
> all the other problems we have to solve. So if this kind of work has
> to compete for attention with much more basic improvements to say the
> uploading pipeline or the editing tools, it's going to lose. Therefore
> I think having a "cultural tooling" team or teams in the larger
> movement would be appropriate.
>
> I've not heard back from WM-CH yet on this, but I also don't think
> it's an exclusive suggestion, so wanted to put the idea in people's
> heads in case other organizations in the movement want to help with
> it. I do want WMF to solve the larger infrastructure problems, but the
> more specialized tooling is likely _not_ going to be high on our
> agenda anytime soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
>
> [1]
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Report_on_requirements_for_usage_and_reuse_statistics_for_GLAM_content.pdf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please be considerate of everyone's time.

[Jon Davies]

At WMUK we are often approached by people wanting to improve content in an
area. We can offer edit training and support for events where people can
come together and improve or create pages.  Last week our editathon run by
volunteer Doug Taylor with Barclays was one such success:   *'There were
472 “saves” and 378 articles edited or created across 18 different language
Wikipedias'.*

Have a look at the blog
<https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/06/a-global-editathon-teaching-wikipedia-to-barclays/>

Jon Davies,


On 17 June 2014 07:14, edward  wrote:

> On 17/06/2014 00:28, Kevin Gorman wrote:
> >>Hi Ed - I'm not sure what your area of specialty is offhand,
>
> This http://cuapress.cua.edu/res/docs/Fall-2014-Catalog.pdf#page=17 will
> be published in September this year, about the early philosophy of the
> medieval theologian Duns Scotus. My focus is on philosophy and logic,
> primarily of the middle ages (a period covering more than a thousand years)
> but also modern analytic philosophy and philosophy of language. Philosophy
> generally is an area that is very poorly covered on Wikipedia.
>
> There is the excellent Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
> http://plato.stanford.edu/contents.html but that is not written for the
> general reader and even specialists in one area might have problems with
> articles in another area http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/modeltheory-fo
> .
>
> There is a similar problem with Wikipedia mathematics and mathematical
> logic articles, by the way.  Unlike articles in my area, they seem to be
> correct, but they are not written in a style that is accessible to the
> general reader.
>
>
> >>On 17/06/2014 00:23, Steven Walling wrote:
> The Wikimedia Foundation does not write nor edit content on Wikipedia, nor
> does it dictate editorial policy.
>
> I am aware of that, but (a) does that have to be the case anyway? If the
> model clearly isn’t working, why not consider another model?
>
> And (b) isn’t the role of the WMF rather like that of the owner of a large
> plot of land to be used as a garden.  The owner doesn’t do the gardening
> directly, but is involved with supplies of fertiliser, weedkiller, pest
> control and so on.
>
> Or (c) perhaps the answer might be to help buy the land for other gardens,
> unconnected with the original one? I have recently been talking to the
> owners of other specialist sites, whose coverage is better than
> Wikipedia’s. Perhaps the Foundation could help them with software
> development, or even persuade them to use Mediawiki (which IMO is excellent
> for this purpose, but needs selling).
>
> >>"Pretty much any article in my specialist area (which is actually not
> all that specialist) has serious problems" is to invite you to edit it.
>
> See geni’s remark below. I can’t edit, and even if I could, it would not
> address the general problem of getting specialists involved. I am still in
> touch with some of the specialists in my area who used to edit Wikipedia.
> Recently I had lunch in London with Julie Hofmann (was, user:JHK, who was
> recruited by Larry Sanger and who left in 2002. They all say the same
> thing: Wikipedia is not a welcoming place for experts.  Pretty much
> everyone who was working in my subject has left a long time ago.
>
>
> On 17/06/2014 00:32, geni wrote:
> >>User:Peter Damian is currently subject to a community ban on the English
> wikipedia.
>
>  ‘Community ban’ is a misleading term, implying the whole community, which
> it doesn’t. My ban was unconnected with the quality of the content I
> contributed.  And see my reply to Steven Walling above. One person is not
> going to make a whole lot of difference. The problem is with the garden and
> the soil, not a single plant.
>
> I don’t see why the WMF couldn’t provide help and advice here. If there
> really is an appetite for change – and it really is needed – then now is a
> good time to discuss it.
>
> Edward
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stop the New Privacy Policy until Lila is Thoroughly Briefed on It, Countdown 14 Hours

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+1 Not easy.


On 6 June 2014 18:52, Richard Symonds 
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> +1... Well done Michelle!
> On 6 Jun 2014 18:46, "Dan Rosenthal"  wrote:
>
> > Echoing Luis's shout-out to Michelle for such a colossal achievement.
> >
> >
> > Dan Rosenthal
> > 
> >
> > "P.S. Let me take this opportunity to again thank Michelle Paulson for
> her
> > work leading this process; all told, it has been something like 18 months
> > of work for her. And that is only the start for her - now that the policy
> > is in place, she'll be working extensively with ops, analytics, the
> > ombudsmen, and many others to ensure compliance and look for other ways
> to
> > improve privacy. She deserves a big round of applause from every
> > privacy-concerned Wikimedian for her tireless work on this issue,
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> > under literally thankless conditions. :)"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

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Yes well done, and thanks to all who stood making this a really difficult
choice for us all!


On 3 June 2014 08:42, Santi Navarro 
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> Felicidades Patricio / Auguri Frieda
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

£2600 for everything.  Got to get on! Don't want to get accused of hogging
the lists!


On 2 June 2014 14:48, Nathan  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Jon Davies 
> wrote:
>
> > £2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me
> > £120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken
> >
> >
> >
> Perhaps I misunderstood - £2600 is the total for all WMUK expenditures for
> all attendees? Or just your own? (And your link, by the way, says £226 for
> yourself and the total for all listed expenses is around £2050).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

£2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me
£120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken


On 2 June 2014 14:35, Nathan  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jon Davies 
> wrote:
>
> > There is no intention to hide the costs to the chapter of the Chapter's
> > involvement in the Wikiconference Berlin, but it is not a simple
> > calculation.
> >
> > One person was asking for trustee expenses, others are asking how much we
> > (WMUK) spent on the entire conference (including staff, volunteers,
> > speakers, trustees etc). I hope to clarify this here.
> >
> > So for trustee expenses: not all of the board went as trustees, as two
> (at
> > least) were invited as speakers - reporting that as a trustee cost
> wouldn't
> > be accurate. As to staff – I attended as the Chief Executive, but the
> other
> > two staff were also invited speakers. One of the staff had some costs
> paid
> > by the Foundation.
> >
> > As to the cost mine was probably on the low end, as I booked my flight
> > early and always use public transport or bicycles, but from recollection
> > (and I have to sign off all trustee expenses) the total cost to the
> chapter
> > is close to £2600. My expenses are here
> > <https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Expenses_2014-2015> and give a good
> > baseline.
> >
> > The trustees are discussing how best to itemise expenses in a way that
> > ensures an appropriate level of transparency at the board meeting this
> > Saturday.
> >
> > I do not know why anyone would call the conference a 'junket', that
> needs a
> > citation I'd think, but it was, as I have explained before in detail, a
> > productive working three days at a reasonable cost to the chapter. If you
> > think it was a junket then the whole conference could be judged a waste
> of
> > money and the previous ones as well - and they aren't. The reality is
> that
> > these are important working conferences where chapters and other
> > organisations meet to discuss best practice.
> > Jon Davies.
> >
> >
> It's a simple and basically fair question - how much did the WMUK spend on
> the Wikimedia Conference 2014? Whether a particular expense can be
> classified as staff, or trustee, or speaker, or etc. is interesting but not
> crucial to answering the question. Given the strained relationship with
> Ashley I can understand the reluctance to respond, but I don't think there
> is a strong moral basis for not providing the round total number.
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Two special workshops before Wikimania.

[Jon Davies]

Hello fellow Wikimedians,

*Two special events just before Wikimania aimed at spreading good practice.*

 *Governance workshop 7th of August.*

Based on the successful board training workshop held in March this year, we
are organising another such workshop, this time coinciding with Wikimania
here in London. This workshop will be based on the successful March
training workshop, with largely the same material covered. It's intended
for people who are (or will shortly be) board members of Chapters or
Thematic Organisations. This session is planned for 7 August 2014, i.e. as
a pre-meeting to Wikimania.

For more details, including a provisional agenda and registration link,
please go to <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_August_2014>.
Places are strictly limited, on a first come first served basis.

*Train the Trainers - two day course. 4th and 5th of August*

We are also hosting an international version of our successful  'Train the
trainers' workshop which we've advertised to you previously. The
application deadline for a place there is Sunday 15 June. More information
and registration is at <
https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk/civicrm/event/info?id=68&reset=1>. Don't
miss out on a place, especially if you have previously indicated an
interest in attending but have not yet registered.

Hope to see many of you in London in August,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

There is no intention to hide the costs to the chapter of the Chapter's
involvement in the Wikiconference Berlin, but it is not a simple
calculation.

One person was asking for trustee expenses, others are asking how much we
(WMUK) spent on the entire conference (including staff, volunteers,
speakers, trustees etc). I hope to clarify this here.

So for trustee expenses: not all of the board went as trustees, as two (at
least) were invited as speakers - reporting that as a trustee cost wouldn't
be accurate. As to staff – I attended as the Chief Executive, but the other
two staff were also invited speakers. One of the staff had some costs paid
by the Foundation.

As to the cost mine was probably on the low end, as I booked my flight
early and always use public transport or bicycles, but from recollection
(and I have to sign off all trustee expenses) the total cost to the chapter
is close to £2600. My expenses are here
<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Expenses_2014-2015> and give a good baseline.

The trustees are discussing how best to itemise expenses in a way that
ensures an appropriate level of transparency at the board meeting this
Saturday.

I do not know why anyone would call the conference a 'junket', that needs a
citation I'd think, but it was, as I have explained before in detail, a
productive working three days at a reasonable cost to the chapter. If you
think it was a junket then the whole conference could be judged a waste of
money and the previous ones as well - and they aren't. The reality is that
these are important working conferences where chapters and other
organisations meet to discuss best practice.
Jon Davies.



On 1 June 2014 12:22, Nathan  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Russavia 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have read the links that you have provided and I find it totally
> > unacceptable that an organisation can not provide costs for sending 8
> > people on a junket to New York.
> >
> > When I have operated businesses in the real world, I have been able to
> pull
> > up any financial information (expenses, revenue, etc) within a matter of
> > seconds and with a click of a mouse. It is astounding that WMUK is not
> able
> > to do the same thing.
> >
> > That Richard Symonds is saying that it is not a good use of resources,
> and
> > basically putting it in the too hard basket, to supply the amount of
> donor
> > dollars which have been spent on this controversial junket is, to use a
> > great British colloquialism, total bollocks.
> >
> > WMUK is an organisation which blows its own trumpet on how transparent it
> > has become in the last 2 years, so it seriously should not be too
> difficult
> > to do this in a timely fashion.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Russavia
>
>
> The conference was in Berlin, not New York.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary

[Jon Davies]

Well done!


On 31 May 2014 22:21, Jan-Bart de Vreede  wrote:

> Indeed, congratulations on achieving these milestones!
>
> It is great to know that even in these turbulent times you are managing to
> reach new goals and have a positive effect! Sometimes in the bigger picture
> these seem like small steps, but they are important steps for us as a
> movement and society as a whole.
>
> Jan-Bart
>
>
> On 31 May 2014, at 22:38, ENWP Pine  wrote:
>
> > Congratulations Wikimedia Ukraine on these milestones.
> > 500,000 articles, 10 years as a language wiki, and 5 years
> > as an organization are great reasons to celebrate.
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Feuerwerk_Dreiländerbrücke.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:13:16 +0200
> >> From: Richard Ames 
> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary
> >> Message-ID: <538a29cc.7030...@ames.id.au>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - оригінальне повідомлення -
> >> Тема: Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary
> >> Від кого: Levon Azizian 
> >> Кому: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> Копія: Правління Вікімедіа Україна 
> >> Відправлено: 31.05.2014 18:40,
> >>
> >> Today, our organization celebrates anniversary - 5 years from the date
> >> of creation.
> >>
> >> Exactly 5 years ago, on May 31, 2009, in Kyiv was held the constituent
> >> meeting, which approved the bylaws and elected its first Board of the
> new
> >> organization, known as Wikimedia Ukraine.
> >>
> >> Our community has gone through a long and difficult path. Birthday of
> >> Wikimedia Ukraine for our community is the third remarkable date this
> >> year. On January 30 was the 10th anniversary of the establishment of
> >> Ukrainian Wikipedia and on May 12 Ukrainian Wikipedia has crossed the
> >> threshold of 500 000 articles.
> >>
> >> We want to thank to Wikimedia Foundation Inc. for their help, to our
> >> neighboring communities for fruitful cooperation with us and of course
> >> to our community for their contributions!
> >>
> >> Regards, Levon Azizian
> >> Deputy chair
> >> Wikimedia Ukraine
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Input needed: Cooperation with zoos?

[Jon Davies]

Roger Bamkin has done some QR work with Sofaia zoo I think.

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On 29 May 2014 23:42, Balázs Viczián  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I haven't heared any issues with animal treatment in Hungarian zoos
> (moreover the news I can recall reports continous improvement, like
> expanding getting renovated/modernised, etc.)
>
> I have no idea about the Serbian ones or the rest of the world.
>
> We've just completed a QR-project with a zoo in Hungary; it might be
> interesting for you.
>
> Find the documentation (google translator needed as it is in
> Hungarian-only) here:
>
> http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikip%C3%A9dia%3AMiskolc-m%C5%B1hely%2FGLAM-ZOO
>
> in short: 80 articles were (mostly significantly) improved plus 34 new
> created (114 articles in total) and the same number of QR codes put out and
> our cooperation won't stop here :)
>
> If you're concerned about animal treatment, think about something else
> then, for example botanical gardens :)
>
> Also a QRpedia project, also recently completed, but not finished (as the
> cooperation will continue beyond mainenance) with the country's largest and
> most prestigeous botanical garden and also Hungarian-only documentation:
>
> http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:N%C3%B6v%C3%A9nyek_m%C5%B1helye/V%C3%A1cr%C3%A1t%C3%B3t
>
> Both were conducted by Wikipedia project groups thus both had a team of
> editors behind them.
>
> Cheers,
> Balazs
> 2014.05.29. 23:45, "Milos Rancic"  ezt írta:
>
> > There is ongoing Microgrants project in Wikimedia Serbia. In brief, we
> > asked people to give us ideas, so we could talk about them. There are
> > some interesting ideas and a number of not so relevant.
> >
> > We've got the offer to cooperate with one of the zoos from Serbia. At
> > this moment of time, there is just their idea, nothing more precise.
> >
> > Before I proceed with the application (give suggestion to WMRS Board),
> > I want your input. In reality, I don't know that any zoo is perfect in
> > relation to the treatment of animals. In reality, it's likely
> > impossible to check that, as well as animal rights are not that well
> > protected in Serbia like the case is in, let's say, in the most of EU
> > countries.
> >
> > So, I am interested in prevalent opinion. What's more important to us:
> > free knowledge or not cooperating with an institution which likely has
> > issues with the treatment of animals -- the question is just about the
> > level.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The first three weeks.

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and Staff
> > to be able to veto things which are unworkable and reach through to
> > the opportunities in an agile fashion. What I don't understand are the
> > few who suggest that the Foundation should not be more active on
> > trying to improve the lot in life of potential volunteer editors. How
> > can that possibly be part of a strategy to increase participation?
> >
> > 1. Labor rights, e.g., linking to fixmyjob.com
> >
> > 2. Support the ratification of the Convention on the Rights of the
> > Child and its protocols without reservation
> >
> > 3. Increase infrastructure spending
> >
> > 4. Increase education spending
> >
> > 5. Public school class size reduction
> >
> > 6. College subsidy with income-based repayment terms
> >
> > 7. More steeply progressive taxation
> >
> > 8. Negative interest on excess reserves
> >
> > 9. Telecommuting
> >
> > 10. Workweek length reduction
> >
> > 11. Single-payer health care
> >
> > 12. Renewable power purchase
> >
> > 13. Increased data center hardware power efficiency
> >
> > 14. Increased security against eavesdropping
> >
> > 15. Metropolitan broadband
> >
> > 16. Oppose monopolization of software, communications, publishing, and
> > finance industries
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A personal note.

[Jon Davies]

My wife, thanks to Viisual Editor, now creates pages!


On 28 May 2014 16:21, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
wrote:

> Just a personal testimonial also to emphasize Marc's point and not
> necessarily when I did a work for WMF as a contractor, my previous
> girlfriend got interesting in Wikimedia projects after she saw somethings I
> worked on my spare time as a volunteer. She even began to write at
> Wikimedia Brasil mailing list and outreach Wikimedia projects. ;)
>
> In fact, she still does sometimes some outreach and have even participate
> of a Wikimedia meeting recently. (Well, better not say her opinion on
> Wikidramas, totally aligned with mine : )
>
> Tom
>
>
> 2014-05-28 11:04 GMT-03:00 Marc A. Pelletier :
>
> > On 05/28/2014 08:59 AM, Fæ wrote:
> > > A curiosity that only manifested
> > > itself shortly after the public announcement of your employment by the
> > > Foundation board.
> >
> > In all fairness, Fæ, if my spouse had been hired as the leader of a very
> > visible and significant business or nonprofit, I too would find myself
> > interested in what it is, what its values are, and how it goes about
> > things even if I had been previously unaware or uninterested in it.
> >
> > So that Wil's interest manifested around the time Lila was announced as
> > the next ED seems to me to be perfectly natural, even if I have
> > expressed serious concerns about *how* that interest was expressed.
> >
> > -- Marc
> >
> > --
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> > Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Please welcome Lila Tretikov, the Wikimedia Foundation's new ED

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Good luck and we look forward to meeting you as soon as possible certainly in 
London for Wikimedia



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> On 1 May 2014, at 20:48, Frans Grijzenhout  wrote:
> 
> Welcome Lila, hope to meet you in person in London. And thanks to Jan-Bart
> & the other members of the transition team. I will forward this great news
> to the Dutch board & community.
> Frans Grijzenhout
> 
> 
> 2014-05-01 20:15 GMT+02:00 Jan-Bart de Vreede :
> 
>> Dear fellow community members,
>> 
>> On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees I am delighted to
>> announce that the new Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation will
>> be Lila Tretikov. Lila is a widely respected Bay Area technology leader,
>> most recently with SugarCRM.
>> 
>> As many of you know, about a year ago Sue Gardner announced she planned to
>> step down as our ED. As we launched the search for her successor, we spent
>> some time working through the most critical requirements for the role. We
>> decided the new ED should be someone with a product/engineering background,
>> ideally in an open-source or other online community context. We wanted
>> someone experienced with organisations that were growing, who'd managed
>> staff and budgets comparable to ours, and who had experience creating
>> continuous delivery of technology improvements in an agile context. We
>> wanted a person who is oriented towards collaboration, transparency and
>> openness, with some experience with complex stakeholder environments, and
>> with an international orientation. We knew we needed someone with courage
>> and strong personal integrity, who wouldn't be intimidated by attempts to
>> censor the projects.
>> 
>> Lila is precisely what we set out to find.
>> 
>> Lila was born in the Soviet Union and moved to the United States alone, as
>> a teenager. She's been working for technology companies, primarily in open
>> source, in the Bay Area for the past 15 years. In 1999 she started her
>> career at Sun Microsystems. Shortly afterwards she founded GrokDigital, a
>> technology and design company. She spent three years as senior director of
>> development at Telespree, a company that provides cloud-based wireless data
>> services for mobile carriers. For the past eight years, she was at
>> SugarCRM, where she held positions of increasing responsibility as the
>> organization grew, including being in charge of internal IT, marketing,
>> customer support and professional services, engineering, and product
>> development. She has a stellar reputation as a leader who is highly
>> skilled, collaborative, open, passionate and curious.
>> 
>> We think Lila will be a terrific fit for the ED role. The Transition Team
>> (Phoebe, Alice, Kat, Sue, Erik, Geoff, Gayle and I) voted unanimously to
>> recommend her to the Board, and the Board voted unanimously to accept the
>> recommendation. She strikes all of us as smart, brave and unpretentious,
>> and we believe she has the skills the WMF needs.
>> 
>> Lila is going to spend the next few weeks in learning-and-listening mode,
>> and will take over the ED position from Sue at the end of the month. Her
>> first priority will be to immerse herself in deepening her understanding of
>> the Wikimedia projects.
>> 
>> I want to close this announcement by saying a heartfelt and deeply
>> appreciative thanks to Sue, who has been the Executive Director of the
>> Wikimedia Foundation for the past seven years. When the Board and I hired
>> Sue in 2007, we were just a chaotic little non-profit in small-town
>> Florida, with a tiny staff and not much money. Over the past seven years,
>> Sue's leadership has built the Foundation into an effective, well-funded
>> and well-managed organisation, with integrity and a clear sense of purpose,
>> and her steady and committed presence throughout the search process was
>> integral in helping us come to this excellent result. We will be forever
>> grateful for her leadership and vision, and I hope we can continue to rely
>>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Norway - Q3 Activity report and Annual Assembly

[Jon Davies]

Love this photo
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Widwey_wmno_2014_IMG_2415.JPG
What a country!


On 30 April 2014 23:30, Erlend Bjørtvedt  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> During the Annual Assembly this weekend, mr. Jarle Vines was elected new
> chairman of the Board, a position that he also upheld from 2010 to 2013. At
> the same time, we truly thank Jon Harald Søby for his good service in his
> term as chairman.
>
>
> Here is the Q3 Activity report of Wikimedia Norway, covering January-March.
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Norge/Progress_report_form/Q3#Overview_of_this_quarter
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Documentation of the Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

Thanks Cornelius (and everyone else for this and all you did at the
conference.
Great to share the learning so quickly. I have posted it on to our wiki.
Jon


On 15 April 2014 18:12, Cornelius Kibelka  wrote:

> Hi Wikimedians,
>
> on behalf of the Documentation Team of the Wikimedia Conference 2014 I'm
> happy to announce that we published all the minutes and photos of all
> sessions, as far as they were available and ready. Check them out on https
> ://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Documentation.
>
> We tried to summarise the sessions ("too long, didn't read"). However,
> sometimes this was not possible due to the most different opinions.
> Furthermore, you find most of the presentation slides and photos of the
> Conference on Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki
> /Category:Wikimedia_Conference_2014)
>
> Any comments, any questions, drop me a line.
>
> Best regards
> Cornelius
>
> on behalf of the Documentation Team of the conference
> (Benjamin, Conny, Lukas and Cornelius)
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback on the last 2 years

[Jon Davies]

Merci Christophe - very useful and echoes many issues WMUK experienced.


On 12 April 2014 20:38, ENWP Pine  wrote:

> Hi Christophe,
>
> Thank you for these interesting emails. I'm cc'ing Anasuya on this
> discussion with the hope that what you've learned can be disseminated
> to other Wikimedia affiliates, especially new or aspiring chapters.
>
> Is the decision matrix that you use for your programs available in
> English? I
> would like to have a copy of it on Meta along with these emails.
>
> I am interested in this subject partly because of the discussion about
> WMF's
> Annual Plan and partly because there are occasional discussions about
> forming a new thematic organization or chapter in my region.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

[Jon Davies]

It always makes me happy when I find one of mine being used (a rare rhing
in reality) but would surely encourage retention of contributors.


On 12 April 2014 08:05, Mike Peel  wrote:

>
>
> > On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:45, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> >> But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
> >> feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
> >> imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
> >> so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!
> >>Tomasz
> >
> > Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however,
> I am not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications
> per day is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be able
> to handle them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure it would
> survive if everybody starts using it heavily.
>
> If notifications are batched, then I think echo would work well for this.
> For example, I'd love to see it giving notifications of when photos from
> Commons are used in the projects, along the lines of '10 of your photos
> were added to Wikipedia articles. Click to expand this notification/find
> out more.'
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ELWP reaches 100000 articles

[Jon Davies]

Outstanding. Well done everyone.


On 10 April 2014 06:39, Nurunnaby Chowdhury  wrote:

> Wow..congratulations..
>
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> Sent from my Android Tablet
> On Apr 10, 2014 3:19 AM, "Amir E. Aharoni" 
> wrote:
>
> > Callooh! Callay! Congratulations to the language that gave so many other
> > languages[1] the word "Encyclopedia".
> >
> > [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5292#sitelinks-wikipedia
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> > ‪“We're living in pieces,
> > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-10 0:13 GMT+03:00 Asaf Bartov :
> >
> > > Dear colleagues,
> > >
> > > Please join me in congratulating our colleagues of the Greek Wikipedia,
> > > upon reaching 10 articles, a symbolic milestone for Wikipedias.
> > >
> > > Some of them are on this list, but a lot more people would see and
> > > appreciate your message on-wiki, so you can sign and (if you like) add
> a
> > > message in your language, here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A3%CF%85%CE%B6%CE%AE%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B7_%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1:100.000_%CE%BB%CE%AE%CE%BC%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B1
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

ment" things have gone "wrong" does not justify
> the
> > > > > current
> > > > > > > > > criticism. A legitimate question could be "you are sending
> a
> > > > large
> > > > > > > > > delegation, why is that". It is not legitimate to say "you
> > > waste
> > > > > > money
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > sending people to a conference, why is that".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >   GerardM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Op 31 mrt. 2014 16:44 schreef "Russavia" <
> > > > > > russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Gerard, et al
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > My point is very much that it is for the chapter to
> decide
> > > if
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > > >> > spend their money wisely. It is for members of a chapter
> > to
> > > > > > question
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >> > at an appropriate time and at an appropriate place.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Might I make a point here.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> It is not "their money", but rather the money of donors --
> > > i.e.
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > general
> > > > > > > > >> public -- who are every year told that Wikipedia needs
> your
> > > help
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> survive.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> The "movement", as you all like to refer to it, has a
> > tendency
> > > > to
> > > > > > > waste
> > > > > > > > >> money on frivolous things such as travel and
> accommodation,
> > as
> > > > > > > > demonstrated
> > > > > > > > >> last year by
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > http://twkozlowski.net/how-40k-dollars-turned-to-petty-cash/and
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > http://twkozlowski.net/saving-by-spending-according-to-affcom/
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> The appropriate time to question such spending is BEFORE
> the
> > > > funds
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >> committed and spent. The place is unimportant, but here is
> > as
> > > > good
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > any.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> As a member of "the movement", Fae has every right to ask
> > such
> > > > > > > > questions,
> > > > > > > > >> and I believe he also has the right to be able to ask such
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > >> without snide remarks such as "Really Fae, as you are no
> > > longer
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > chair,
> > > > > > > > >> why rule "from the grave"?" being thrown at him .
> > > Unfortunately,
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > >> tendency in "the movement" when legitimate questions are
> > > raised,
> > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > >> committed movementarian to deflect from that questioning
> > with
> > > > > snide
> > > > > > > > >> attacks.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Now, Fae has asked some legit questions of UK chapter, and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > fair
> > > > > > > > >> that they answer them.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Russavia
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

You are right - eight. as Chris is going as well. The reasons remain the
same.



On 31 March 2014 17:00, Fæ  wrote:

> On 31 March 2014 16:23, Jon Davies  wrote:
> ...
> > For the record we have people going for four reasons:
> >
> >- CEO and Chair as standard
> >- Two staff and one trustee who are invited to do presentations on
> areas
> >of strength in the chapter.
> >- Two trustees (we are guessing KR might actually be a misnamed Kate
> >West) who will be using this as part of their induction as trustees -
> a
> >great chance to meet other people and learn about the community.
> >- Everyone can promote Wikimania London and learn about people's ideas
> >and expectations.
>
> I was going to step back from this, however a correction needs to be
> made here for the record, There are 8 people being funded not 7. Named
> as going are the CEO, 2 additional full time employees and 5 trustees
> representing Wikimedia UK at the conference.
>
> This excludes two other active members of Wikimedia UK who are
> representing the London Wikimania Programme and a member of the FDC.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

[Jon Davies]

A few points.

There is no policy to restrict participation to three representatives.
Indeed, many chapters are sending more than three delegates as has been the
case in previous years.

For the record we have people going for four reasons:

   - CEO and Chair as standard
   - Two staff and one trustee who are invited to do presentations on areas
   of strength in the chapter.
   - Two trustees (we are guessing KR might actually be a misnamed Kate
   West) who will be using this as part of their induction as trustees - a
   great chance to meet other people and learn about the community.
   - Everyone can promote Wikimania London and learn about people's ideas
   and expectations.

I think this is a sensible use of our resources, (flights to Berlin are
cheaper than many train journeys to UK cities), supports our learning and
helps share our knowledge and understanding with other chapters.

And on a final point we will certainly not be going round in a sort of WMUK
gang trying to overwhelm small chapters - quite the opposite and I think we
have a good record at WMUK of supporting others.

*Regards, Jon Davies*


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On 31 March 2014 15:43, Russavia  wrote:

> Gerard, et al
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> wrote:
>
> >
> > My point is very much that it is for the chapter to decide if they
> > spend their money wisely. It is for members of a chapter to question this
> > at an appropriate time and at an appropriate place.
>
>
> Might I make a point here.
>
> It is not "their money", but rather the money of donors -- i.e. the general
> public -- who are every year told that Wikipedia needs your help to
> survive.
>
> The "movement", as you all like to refer to it, has a tendency to waste
> money on frivolous things such as travel and accommodation, as demonstrated
> last year by
> http://twkozlowski.net/how-40k-dollars-turned-to-petty-cash/and
> http://twkozlowski.net/saving-by-spending-according-to-affcom/
>
> The appropriate time to question such spending is BEFORE the funds is
> committed and spent. The place is unimportant, but here is as good as any.
>
> As a member of "the movement", Fae has every right to ask such questions,
> and I believe he also has the right to be able to ask such questions
> without snide remarks such as "Really Fae, as you are no longer the chair,
> why rule "from the grave"?" being thrown at him . Unfortunately, there is a
> tendency in "the movement" when legitimate questions are raised, for a
> committed movementarian to deflect from that questioning with snide
> attacks.
>
> Now, Fae has asked some legit questions of UK chapter, and it is only fair
> that they answer them.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

[Jon Davies]

Very sad to hear this - you have done so well. Hie to see you in London.


On 30 March 2014 18:59, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Dear colleagues, collaborators and friends of free knowledge,
>
> After three eventful years I left the board of Wikimedia Nederland;
> yesterday was the General Assembly in Utrecht. This means a 'goodbye'.
>
> In this time, I had the privilege and pleasure to work with many great
> people in many different organisations. We saw a lot of small steps
> and some bigger ones directed to our common goal, the support of free
> knowledge. Certainly, not everything we as a movement or parts of the
> movement was achieved, though.
>
> Between many WMNL members and me, there were two grades of separation:
> coming from the humanities, my geekiness differs a little from the
> average Wikipedianess; having the German Wikipedia as my home wiki, I
> was never a very active or 'true' part of the Dutch editing community.
> And when I quoted in my speeches from medieval quests or Prussian
> literary realism, I received therefore some strange looks from some
> members.
>
> But I remain firmly convinced that good governance and respect have no
> nationality. Indeed, stroopwafels do have, and so I adopted the Dutch
> custom to bring them with me to Wikimedian meetings abroad.
>
> Wikimedia Nederland has experienced and overcome a difficult period of
> transition. Office space and employees, more members including more
> members without Wikipedia background, more activities, more money,
> more responsibility; more need for an association to mature and focus
> on what is necessary (and not always easy, cool or fun). We achieved
> that as a collective, slower than previously expected, but with the
> appropriate pride and good feelings about the future.
>
> Goodbye - and Hello: I am looking forward to see many of you again at
> whatever wiki, chat or real life meeting.
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Nederland
>
>
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoucement from the Executive Director of Wikimedia Argentina

[Jon Davies]

Really sad to see you go.



On 28 January 2014 17:11, Anders Wennersten wrote:

> Good luck in your future endeavors!
>
> And much thanks to you for the excellent job you with help of your
> colleagues have done, making WMAR a model for chapters
>
> Anders
>
> Osmar Valdebenito skrev 2014-01-28 17:59:
>
>  Dear members of the Wikimedia Movement:
>>
>> In the past weeks, I've taken the decision to resign to my position of
>> Executive Director of Wikimedia Argentina. This decision was presented to
>> the Board of the chapter past Saturday and it was accepted.
>>
>> For personal and professional reasons, I've decided to return to my
>> country, Chile, in the following weeks and start a new stage of my life.
>> Two years ago, I was presented with the opportunity of living in Argentina
>> and working for one of my passions. This was a big challenge for me: I had
>> to leave my country and my family and work in a foreign country. These
>> last
>> 18 months have been a unique experience and I've learnt a lot, becoming a
>> better professional and a more mature person. However, at the same time I
>> feel that I need to move on and continue with new projects and challenges.
>>
>> Certainly, this has not been an easy decision for me, because I'm very
>> fond
>> of this work, the people that have participated in our activities and the
>> projects we worked on and we are still working on.
>>
>> I leave the Association in a very different position than when I took
>> office. We have several ongoing projects and we regularized all the
>> delayed
>> paperwork. We became the first organization from a developing country to
>> get an Annual Plan Grant via FDC and have been one of the best-graded
>> chapters in both processes. We are now a reliable and serious
>> organization,
>> continuing a process of professionalization that can improve our programs,
>> making them more efficient and more effective. Clearly, this has not been
>> only due to my work, which is why I thank the Board of the Chapter that
>> helped me in everything and to María Cruz, which has been a great
>> colleague
>> these months.
>>
>> My main interest is that Wikimedia Argentina continues to grow, which is
>> why we have decided that my departure occurs at the end of March. This
>> will
>> allow us to work calmly to ensure the continuity of the ongoing projects
>> of
>> Wikimedia Argentina and the transfer of knowledge once the new Executive
>> Director takes office. In any case, I will continue to participate as a
>> member and Wikimedia volunteer, once this period expires. By request of
>> our
>> Board, I will also attend the next Wikimedia Conference, so I will be able
>> to transmit the experiences of Wikimedia Argentina in the last year.
>>
>> I appreciate the trust placed in me by the Board and all the members of
>> Wikimedia Argentina and their support all these months. I'm sure they will
>> continue the great work we have done lately.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Osmar Valdebenito G.*
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>> A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

[Jon Davies]

WOW on toast! Thanks Amir.


On 15 January 2014 09:47, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

> ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool
> provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different
> languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage
> links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some
> languages written in the Latin alphabet, and it is supposed to be more
> comfortable to read for dyslexic people. So it can be considered and
> accessibility tool, but I don't think that it is relevant for
> visually-impaired people.
>
>
>
>
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> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> 2014/1/15 Jon Davies 
>
> > How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :)
> >
> >
> > On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already
> > > serves one function for people who have a handicap with their
> perception.
> > > It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are
> multiple
> > > ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size
> > of
> > > the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some
> > > people only see yellow on white..)
> > >
> > > If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the
> functionality
> > > but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of
> > MediaWiki
> > > and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find
> > > OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)...
> > >
> > > Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is
> > > being developed.
> > > Thanks,
> > >   GerardM
> > >
> > >
> > > On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning
> wikipedia
> > > for
> > > > visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices?
> > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

[Jon Davies]

How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :)


On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:

> Hoi,
> One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already
> serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception.
> It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple
> ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of
> the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some
> people only see yellow on white..)
>
> If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality
> but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki
> and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find
> OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)...
>
> Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is
> being developed.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
>
> On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER  wrote:
>
> > Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia
> for
> > visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices?
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WG: Invitation to Chapters and Photographers for the European Parliament Project 2014

[Jon Davies]

Could actually being there in front of UK MEP's could be one very effective
way of bringing our influence to bear?
Jon
PS Strasbourg slightly closer to London than Edinburgh!


On 3 January 2014 17:19, geni  wrote:

> On 3 January 2014 16:22, Olaf Kosinsky  wrote:
>
> > Happy New Year to Everyone!
> >
> > After the holidays I'd like to make another approach to you and your
> > chapters about "Wikipedians in the European Parliament".
> >
> > * have you already forwarded this invitation to your local community?
> >
>
> I expect that has been done
>
>
> > * has you chapter already decided about supporting volunteers
> participating
> > in this project?
> >
>
> Sending people to Brussels and Strasbourg for reasons other than to lobby
> on IP issues is not a good use of WMF donors money. You want 766 photos
> total. Find one person in Brussels (not Strasbourg even the majority of
> MEPs accept that Strasbourg is a bad idea at this point) and give them
> whatever support they need to get the photos.
>
>
>
> > * have you - if you are interested - already signed up for participation?
> >
>
>
> Of course not. Strasbourg is several hundred miles away across the English
> channel.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

[Jon Davies]

Totally. In fact I think this string demonstrates a little of why this has
taken two years one month and 21 days! But with good faith we got there!!!


On 21 December 2013 15:29, Michael Maggs  wrote:

> Crossed wires I think.
>
> Jon was probably referring to the internal agreement between WMUK and its
> subsidiary Cultural Outreach whereby WMUK will pay the domain name renewal
> fees. That simply allows us to maintain a non trading status for Cultural
> Outreach which keeps legal fees to a minimum.
>
> QRpedia is and will remain free for use by anyone, without any need for an
> agreement or approval from WMUK.
>
> Michael
>
> > On 21 Dec 2013, at 14:25, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 21 December 2013 09:02, Jon Davies 
> wrote:
> >
> >>> 3) Are there already or will there need to be
> >>> cross agreements between WMF and other
> >>> Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?
> >
> >> Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.
> >
> > This seems to imply that QRpedia will no longer be freely and openly
> > available for anyone to use, as it has been from inception. I hope
> > that's not the case, but would be grateful for assurances.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Qrpedia domain transfer

[Jon Davies]

Hi Nathan,

Re Q1 our legal advice was to set up a separate company in case anyone came
after QRcodes in some litigious fashion. This keeps it at arms length.

Q2 I am the only person associated with it at the moment - the AGM was a
rather solitary affair - but we need to add another director not least in
case I go under a bus.

Q3. There will be an agreement, it is being drafted.

Come into the office for a coffee and we could chat about it in more detail.

Jon Davies


On 20 December 2013 18:45, Nathan  wrote:

> Thanks Katherine, I just have a couple of questions if you have a moment...
>
> 1) Why did WMUK choose to incorporate a new company to host the qrpedia IP?
> 2) Who are the officers / trustees of Cultural Outreach Ltd and how are
> they chosen?
> 3) Are there already or will there need to be cross agreements between WMF
> and other Wikimedia entities and Cultural Outreach Ltd?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC R1 funding recommendations are posted

[Jon Davies]

ublicly document the complaint, and
> investigate the complaint, as needed.
>
> On behalf of the FDC,
>
> "pundit" Dariusz Jemielniak (FDC Chair)
>
> [1]
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC
>
> [2]
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2013-2014_round1
>
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals
>
> [4]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2015 - Call for Jury volunteers

[Jon Davies]

I'd be willing to put up with the heat, beaches and luxury hotels.


On 6 November 2013 13:24, Itzik Edri  wrote:

> There is no one from the Maldives who want to bid maybe? :)
> I'm ok also with Hawaii
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Florence Devouard  >wrote:
>
> > Whilst we are at Sealand Principality... a head up...
> >
> > We now have received five (5) candidacies. Good ones. Which is great.
> >
> > I'd love to see some more.
> >
> > Also please... we would need more geographical diversity (err, less
> > primarily English speaking people). Help relay the call for volunteers
> > within your linguistic communities.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Flo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/5/13 8:25 PM, Michael Snow wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/5/2013 11:01 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 5 November 2013 18:58, Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes if it's South enough to be in the middle of the Channel for best
> >>>> neutrality.
> >>>>
> >>> Jersey 2015!
> >>>
> >> That really ought to be Principality of Sealand instead. We already had
> >> Gdansk, time to continue the history tour of Wikipedia edit wars.
> >>
> >> --Michael Snow
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2015 - Call for Jury volunteers

[Jon Davies]

Is a bid for South London allowed next year?


On 1 November 2013 23:44, James Forrester  wrote:

> Forwarding for info.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: James Forrester 
> Date: 1 November 2013 18:43
> Subject: Wikimania 2015 - Call for Jury volunteers
> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
> wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Soon we will be kicking off the selection process for deciding where we
> will hold Wikimania 2015[0].
>
> The Requests for Proposals (RfP) is being written right now[1], and will be
> coming out soon, but in this e-mail we would like to invite volunteers to
> serve on the selection jury[2]. The jury will select the winning bid based
> on published criteria, reviewing the bids from January onwards until the
> final selection is made in April 2014.
>
> This is roughly 30-40 hours' work, and is key to us making Wikimania a
> strong, healthy community conference that we all can enjoy. The Wikimania
> Committee will select a jury that is a balanced representation of the
> community, from a diverse range of backgrounds, sexes, languages, cultures
> and regions of the world.
>
> The main criteria are as follows:
>
> * You want to help make Wikimania as great a celebration of the community
> as we can make it;
> * You can represent some of the Wikimedia community's varied projects and
> activities;
> * You have some experience of community events, meetings, conferences, or
> want to learn;
> * You have some free time during the selection period, especially late
> March and early April; and
> * You are not closely involved in any bid (it's a conflict of interest).
>
> If you would like to serve on the jury, please e-mail Florence Devouard
> (off-list) [[Wikipedia:User:Anthere]] at fdevouard @ wikimedia.org by 12
> November. We will announce the jury in two weeks' time.
>
> Please help us by translating this message and passing it on to your wiki's
> community for those that don't read these mailing lists.
>
> Thank you, and good luck to all Bids.
>
> [0] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015
> [1] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids
> [2] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_jury
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania Committee.
>
> Yours,
> --
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> capacity)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Jon Davies]

Thanks, but newbies shouldn't have to do all that - it should sit there as
an option.


On 15 October 2013 09:34, K. Peachey  wrote:

> Under Preferences > Editing > "Enable VisualEditor (only in the
> main<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_namespace>
>  and user <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_namespace>
>  namespaces)"
>
> will do it iirc.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Jon Davies  >wrote:
>
> > Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really
> > appreciate it.
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we
> have
> > > the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor
> > > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
> > >
> > > Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a
> specific
> > > user?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Jon Davies]

Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really
appreciate it.
Jon


On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres wrote:

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>
> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have
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> activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
>
> Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a specific
> user?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2014 location decision

[Jon Davies]

Perhaps next year in sunny Goa?  Dates?


On 13 October 2013 12:05, Steven Zhang  wrote:

> Bulk of the chapters are in Europe, so it's generally seen as cheaper for
> most chapters, and more convenient for them. I agree with your sentiment.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 13 Oct 2013, at 7:06 pm, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
> >
> > As one of the team for the India bid, I must say I'm a bit disappointed
> in
> > this decision. It seems like this event will never leave Europe.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Sarah Stierch  >wrote:
> >
> >> Congratulations - Berlin is one amazing city. Some great bids were
> placed,
> >> too.
> >>
> >> Looking forward to it!
> >>
> >> -Sarah
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Ivan Martínez 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all the team involved in the bidding and decision. We will
> >> have a
> >>> very nice conference in Berlin.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>> El oct 12, 2013 8:31 a.m., "Bence Damokos" 
> >> escribió:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Following considerable deliberation it is with great pleasure that we
> >>>> announce that the Location Committee has selected Berlin as the
> >> location
> >>>> for the 2014 Wikimedia Conference.
> >>>>
> >>>> We received a total of four bids from Germany, India, Italy and
> Sweden.
> >>> In
> >>>> selecting the Berlin location we have taken into consideration the
> >>>> experience and capacity of the team; the travel time and cost for
> >>>> attendees; the cost of hosting the conference; and the facilities and
> >>> room
> >>>> configuration of the proposed venues.
> >>>>
> >>>> Throughout our deliberations we kept an open mind towards having the
> >>>> conference in a new location/country, and we have appreciated the
> >> compact
> >>>> solutions offered by having all participants close to each other or
> >>> staying
> >>>> at the same lodging; however, we felt that the Berlin bid provides –
> >> by a
> >>>> small margin – the best combination of price, distance and experience
> >>> this
> >>>> year.
> >>>>
> >>>> We thank all the organisations that have entered a bid for their time
> >> and
> >>>> effort and we hope that even if they were not selected this year, they
> >>> can
> >>>> make use of the experience when they organise other meetings that will
> >>>> further the Wikimedia mission.
> >>>>
> >>>> In closing, we would like to thank all Wikimedia organisations for
> >>> placing
> >>>> their trust in this process and committee, which was an interesting
> >>>> experience for all of us. In the hope that the Wikimedia organisations
> >>> keep
> >>>> the hosting choice an open process, we would like to propose a number
> >> of
> >>>> potential process improvements[1], and we would invite all the bidders
> >>> and
> >>>> other interested parties to provide their own feedback.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Asaf Bartov, Bence Damokos, Arnau Duran, Itzik Edri, Mike Peel, Osmar
> >>>> Valdebenito, Ilario Valdelli
> >>>> Wikimedia Conference 2014 Location Committee
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Welcome to Nathalie, our new ED

[Jon Davies]

Bienvenue-il ne sera jamais un moment ennuyant.


On 1 October 2013 16:07, Dariusz Jemielniak  wrote:

> congrats and welcome :)
>
> pundit
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Christophe Henner <
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>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We have the great pleasure to announce Nathalie Martin is starting
> > today as the new Executive Director of Wikimédia France!
> >
> > Her hiring is the tipping point of a process we started last January
> > when we hired a HR firm to audit our organization and support us in
> > finding the right person for this key role.
> >
> > With a background in political science and organizations strategy,
> > Nathalie has a deep experience managing several associations of
> > similar or bigger size as Wikimedia France. Even though she is not
> > from the movement, we believe she'll adapt quickly to who we are.
> >
> > She came to Wikimania in Hong-Kong, and some of you may have had the
> > pleasure to meet her. By coming to Wikimania she had the luck to
> > experience in 3 day what Wikimedia is at large, to meet wikimedians
> > from all around the world. I'm happy to say that she too suffered from
> > PWD (Post-Wikimania Depression).
> >
> > If you need to contact her, her email address is
> > nathalie.mar...@wikimedia.fr. Please keep in mind that it's her first
> > day within our movement and she still will need few days to adapt to
> > our awesomeness
> >
> > Please join us in welcoming Nathalie!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > PS: please keep her in copy of your answers :)
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

[Jon Davies]

thanks
On Sep 26, 2013 3:24 PM, "Nicole Ebber"  wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> FYI: WMDE has just posted their bid to host Wikimedia Conference 2014.
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_1:_WMDE
>
>
> The deadline for the bidding process is approaching: 30 September is
> the last day to enter your bid on Meta.
>
> There are now 7 people on the location committee: Itzik (WMIL), Ilario
> (WMCH/IT), Arnaugir (Amical), Osmar (WMAR) from the affiliations plus
> Asaf (WMF), Bence (AffCom), Mike (FDC). Thanks to all of you to step
> up for this important task!
>
> After the comittee has decided about the hosting organisation (by 15
> October) we should all continue with defining the goals and desired
> outcomes and work on the programme together. Please feel invited to
> provide your thoughts and input on Meta already – or volunteer to be
> on the programme committee yourselves. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Nicole
>
> On 20 September 2013 14:34, Bence Damokos  wrote:
> > The name "conference" doesn't mean that it has to stick to the
> traditional
> > conference format.
> > Indeed, one of the suggested discussion topics (both in general, and for
> > the actual programme committee) is to consider different formats and
> > approaches (e.g. using the event for capacity building workshops,
> > leadership training for board members, etc.) – input, and volunteers with
> > good ideas for the programme committee would be very welcome at
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bence
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Balázs Viczián <
> balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> You;re still not getting my point so let me reword myself: I'm debating
> >> wheter specifically this event (in its current form, as it seemingly
> lacks
> >> general interest plus turns into a 'mini Wikimania') is the best way for
> >> that what Jon says; no argument against wheter it is necessary or not.
> >>
> >> Small, dedicated workshops are usually have more success and value than
> >> such general conferences. Also, I saw many arguments that these
> >> unscheduled, here-and-there advertised thematic meetups (paralel to the
> >> main body of the conference) were more useful and fruitful than the main
> >> body. A lot of guys holding 'important' positions are usually missing
> the
> >> main body of the event at all due to these. Then why to stick to a
> >> conference? Set up workshops: you may put them paralell if you want for
> >> cost effectiveness. (for example 3 days, 6 workshops in two streams)
> >>
> >> Balazs
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/9/20 Craig Franklin 
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > A few people asked me with varying degrees of seriousness about this
> in
> >> > Hong Kong, so I'll just put this out there and say that Wikimedia
> >> Australia
> >> > will not be in a position to host this event in 2014.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Craig Franklin
> >> > President - Wikimedia Australia
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 16 September 2013 22:11, Nicole Ebber 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dear Wikimedia friends,
> >> > >
> >> > > following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have
> now
> >> > > drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next
> >> > > year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the
> annual
> >> > > Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and
> >> > > AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc).
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference
> >> > >
> >> > > == LOCATION COMMITTEE ==
> >> > > I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of
> >> > > affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter.
> >> > > Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it
> would
> >> > > be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest
> >> > > experience. So if you have severe experience with conference
> >> > > organisation, please consider joining the committee now!
> >> > >
> >> > > == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? ==
> >> > > All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014
> >> > > are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made
> >> > > until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15
> October.
> >> > > The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics,
> as
> >> > > in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation,
> >> > > technical equipment, social events, communication with and support
> for
> >> > > the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the
> >> > > facilitators.
> >> > >
> >> > > I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted,
> >> > > this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the
> >> > > event. I have written

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

[Jon Davies]

I think there is an assumption that it is needed and indeed welcomed. From
my two experiences it has been very valuable and,I would argue, in an
organisation like ours essential for developing good working relationships
and practices.


On 20 September 2013 05:53, Balázs Viczián wrote:

> I think you miss my point: I see an event that is being pushed despite no
> sufficient visible interest in it from those whom you are targeting with
> it...
>
> Sure you'll have more applications than vacant slots, it is pretty easy to
> find people to travel for free virtually from an to anywhere in the world.
> Also, everybody loves to talk. If you measure success that way, it will be
> a 100% success.
>
> Balázs
> 2013/9/18 Asaf Bartov 
>
> > Balasz, you miss the point: certainly, conferences _can_ be organized in
> > any major city.  That's not what this conversation is trying to
> establish.
> >  We are trying to get the deafeningly-silent majority of chapter/ThOrg
> > board members on this list to _participate_ in determining the location,
> > and later the program, of next year's WMCON.
> >
> > If the level of interest expressed so far is a fair reflection of the
> > actual level of interest, and given WMDE has expressed interest in
> hosting,
> > we could default to that and forego this whole bid process.  The point of
> > the bid was to accommodate a perceived interest in sharing the burden
> (and
> > joys) of hosting; if that perception is incorrect, we don't need this
> > process.
> >
> > So which is it, dear colleagues?  Is everyone else just happy for
> > Someone to handle this?  Is everyone else just waiting for the
> > invitation to the actual event, and the program put together by others?
> >
> >A.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Nicole Ebber <
> nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Marc,
> > >
> > > you can find all requirements on Meta.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Logistical_needs_for_the_annual_Wikimedia_Conference_2
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Nicole
> > >
> > > On 18 September 2013 19:19, Marc A. Pelletier 
> wrote:
> > > > On 09/18/2013 06:58 AM, Jon Davies wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Can we have it in that place that hosts Groundhog day?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I fully intend to prepare a bid for Montreal to host this, once the
> > > > requirements are made slightly clearer.  I already have all the
> > contacts
> > > > with venues and government levels from my organization of the 2011
> > > Wikimania
> > > > bid and plan to use the success story of that conference to shore up
> > > > Montreal's bid to host a Wikimania.  :-)
> > > >
> > > > -- Marc
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> > > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!

[Jon Davies]

Can we have it in that place that hosts Groundhog day?

Didn't we have all these discussions last year?

Is this a wiki tradition nobody told me about?

Jon


On 18 September 2013 14:31, Ilario Valdelli  wrote:

> I agree.
>
> The work behind the organization is more than organizing a wiki-meeting to
> drink a beer.
>
> People have to consider the costs for travel, the booking of tickets and
> the accommodation plus visas.
>
> Yes, six months is a convenient timeline to start working on.
>
> regards
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Andrea Zanni  >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Cristian Consonni
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián :
> > > > The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from
> > the
> > > > top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 months before the event to
> > give
> > > > everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first
> > > > minute, not last minute). Most airline and international train
> tickets
> > > are
> > > > the cheapest if you buy them ~3 months in advance. Not much later,
> nor
> > > > earlier, because both are being "penalized" by higher fees. We can
> find
> > > out
> > > > where to have the event as late as early January
> > >
> > > May I point out that if you want to be able to book tickets 3 months
> > > before  you should start working on  at the very
> > > least six month in advance. How can you tell the destination of your
> > > booking if you don't know where the event is going to be held?
> > >
> > > From WM-IT's experience with WMConf 2013 (which we are discussing to
> > > replicate) you have to start organizing it in November, no later.
> > >
> > > Cristian
> >
> >
> > Plus, you're forgetting visas.
> >
> > Aubrey
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] State of the Map 2013 - OSM conference in Birmingham, England.

[Jon Davies]

Thanks for doing this Andy.


On 30 August 2013 21:47, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 30 August 2013 12:48, Richard Nevell 
> wrote:
> > Andy, about 230 flyers are in the post and on their way to you.
>
> Thank you. The organisers have kindly agreed to include them in the
> delegate packs (which I'll be stuffing on Thursday).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile image upload

[Jon Davies]

Even though I should have been clearing my in-box after a week on holiday I
had to try this- Well done! Will try the commons upload app next.

On 26 August 2013 16:20, Jon Robson  wrote:

> James
> Thanks for sharing that and great to see the uploader is from Kerala India!
>
> In terms of mobile editing arriving... It's here!:
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/25/edit-wikipedia-on-the-go/
>
> Jon
> On 25 Aug 2013 05:14, "James Heilman"  wrote:
>
> > Mobile image upload is a huge plus thus thanks to all who made it
> > happen. It is allowing those who might not otherwise have be able to
> > get involved to do so. Just saw this image come in through the mobile
> > site
> >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dirty_white_pseudomembrane_classically_seen_in_diptheria_2013-07-06_11-07.jpg
> >
> > I have never seen diphtheria as it is exceedingly rare in my area of
> > the world. And technically this image is very hard to take. Look
> > forwards to mobile editing arriving.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapter collaboration

[Jon Davies]

WMUK will do what it can to keep this important work going.
Jon

On 14 August 2013 08:14, Markus Glaser  wrote:

> Dear WCA Council Members, dear Wikimedians,
>
> most of you are probably already aware of Ziko's and my resignation as
> Deputy Chair and Chair of the WCA Council. I don't want to reiterate the
> whole story, as many things have already  been said [6][7]. The discussions
> that followed when it became clear that WMFR was about to withdraw made it
> obvious to both of us that our resources are better spent elsewhere:
>
> * Support for the WCA within Chapters is very small.
> * Chapters withdrew from the WCA long time ago by non-participation.
> * The WCA is expected to do big things with no resources.
> * It is virtually impossible to get rid of the structural debates.
>
> Still, I firmly believe we need to continue the dialogue. There are some
> projects (started by the WCA and others) that are very promising if they
> get the attention they deserve. As a consequence, I will focus on working
> on Chapter collaboration and the continuation of programmes. Here's an
> (incomplete) list:
>
> * Chapters Exchange [1] as a place of coordination for common projects.
> * Boards Training [2] as a way of enabling good organisational work.
> * Peer reviews [3] for learning from each other.
> * Chapters Manual [4] as a sustainable documentation of the way Wikimedia
> organisations work.
> * Journal on Meta [5] for staying up to date.
>
> Obviously, I need help for this :) So please participate, if you find
> these projects useful. I suggest, for coordination, we gather around the
> Chapters Exchange page on meta [1] for the time being.
>
> Cheers,
> Markus
>
> P.S.: Thanks so much for the many kind words and your personal support.
> That was really helpful during the course of these events!
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

[Jon Davies]

We are not Coopers and Lybrand - we are real people. If somebody really
objects to an image then their complaint should be taken seriously but
let's not try and second guess the world.

Jon Davies - WMUK

PS I am trying to get my staff to take photos where they don't all appear
to be a bit crazed...

On 12 July 2013 09:31, Dan Rosenthal  wrote:

> You realize we have a page on Tattoos that shows just how prevalent they
> are throughout the world, yes?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo
>
>
> Also, I think you missed my sarcasm about Rory and the invisibility cloak.
> They're non-issues, just as Brandon's photo is a non-issue.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> Dan Rosenthal
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Eddy Paine 
> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> > A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a problem. Thats
> > common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK thing.
> > The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a mascot and I
> > agree with Erik we need Tux for Engineering.
> > And no, we are not in the 1950's but as a international organisation we
> > should still keep in mind that tattoos aren't accepted world wide.
> Placing
> > your tattoo on a staff page and your face faded away is provocating the
> > fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional.
> > Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or
> > kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also.
> > Ed
> > > From: swatjes...@gmail.com
> > > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400
> > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
> > >
> > > I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more
> > > unprofessional than "absentee" (for lack of a better term) pictures
> being
> > > labeled "Cloak of invisibility?" Or the picture of Rory as "mascot"?
> > >
> > > Further, what does "all but neutral" mean?
> > >
> > > Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police
> > because
> > > someone "might" be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is
> > > upset, and why?
> > >
> > > -Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan Rosenthal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Eddy Paine 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only
> Staff
> > > > can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the
> > correct
> > > > place to post this.
> > > > I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the
> > staff
> > > > in a good way where nobody can have a problem with it. The images
> being
> > > > made by professionals for that.
> > > > I believe the image Brandon Harris is using since this night is not
> > > > suitable for a staff picture. The ink he is showing can discourage
> > people
> > > > and the picture is all but neutral. Secondly he isn't even really on
> > the
> > > > picture his is faded out.
> > > > I would strongly advice to keep the images there proffesional.
> > > > Ed
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (Announcement) Ana Toni Announced as New Wikimedia Foundation Board Member

[Jon Davies]

Dear Ana,

Congratulations on your appointment and greetings from Wikimedia UK  - the
UK chapter of the movement.

We are pleased that you know the UK well. Do you speak any Welsh?

There is always a welcome and a desk for visitors from the Foundation here
in London so pop in and see us next time you are in London.

Will you be in Hong Kong at Wikimania?

Jon Davies

CEO WMUK.



On 9 July 2013 12:00, Jan-Bart de Vreede  wrote:

> Hey
>
> I am also very happy to publicly welcome her to the Board, and am really
> happy that she was able to free up time for the commitment of our board,
> which demands a good deal of time.
>
> With regards to your questions:
>
> 1) I am forwarding these messages to Ana Toni :) And gave her instructions
> how to subscribe
> 2) Her term started on the 1st of July.
> 3) Unfortunately she is not able to make it to Wikimania because she
> already had plans during that period :(  She will probably be attending a
> part of the board meeting through Skype but she will miss the interaction
> with everyone, which is something she (and we all) regret but which
> couldn't be helped.
>
> (she did meet some of the community members in San Francisco during her
> stay there when we interviewed here and Phoebe organised a edit-a-thon :)
>
> Jan-Bart
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Lodewijk  wrote:
>
> > Welcome Ana!
> >
> > (while everyone is assuming Ana is already subscribed to this list, I
> will
> > do the same. i hope that when this thread lies down a bit, someone will
> > forward it of course :) )
> > We have always heard a lot about Greenpeace, and as you probably know, it
> > was often used as an example in our strategic discussions how we would
> like
> > to develop as a movement (the amount of centralization). I look forward
> to
> > your involvement on those discussions as we're slowly moving towards a
> new
> > strategic cycle for the Wikimedia Foundation, and I hope you will be bold
> > enough a person to simply join, even if you may feel somewhat 'new' for
> the
> > first ten years ;-).
> >
> > Very practically: when exactly does your term officially start her term?
> > Will that be at the coming board meeting in Hong Kong, or afterwards? I
> > hope you will have the opportunity of meeting many community members in
> > Hong Kong!
> >
> > Best,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's report and learn from non-successes (more often)

[Jon Davies]

I am an audience! Thanks and it really makes some broader points.  We often
start from finding people who have a passion about a subject but don;t edit
yet. That at least solves the 'blank sheet of paper' fear. Liked the
discussion though.

On 4 July 2013 08:34, Federico Leva (Nemo)  wrote:

> Thanks.
> The problem of the blog post is IMHO that it's unclear what audience it's
> directed to. The learnings and suggestions *might* be useful for some
> en.wiki WikiProjects, but en.wiki is obviously the least suitable wiki for
> such experiments. There are no learnings for other projects and I see no
> answer e.g. to questions I had for a similar fr.wiki banner a few weeks
> later. <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/**index.php?title=Meta%**
> 3ARequests_for_help_from_a_**sysop_or_bureaucrat&diff=**
> 5337142&oldid=5337118<https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta%3ARequests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat&diff=5337142&oldid=5337118>
> >
> It will be for next time then. :)
>
> Nemo
>
> P.s.: It's not particularly surprising, I see that I had already predicted
> this failure. <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/**index.php?title=Talk:**
> CentralNotice/Calendar&oldid=**5337147#Philippines_**
> recruitment_for_two_weeks<https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:CentralNotice/Calendar&oldid=5337147#Philippines_recruitment_for_two_weeks>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Erik Zachte on bot-generated articles

[Jon Davies]

I learnt yesterday that the Welsh Wicipedia does not have 'stubs'. It has
'Little Acorns' - so much nicer and more descriptive.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congratulations

[Jon Davies]

And to everyone who actually ran the elections - easily forgotten but not
if you work opposite one of them!
Well done.
Jon.

On 24 June 2013 23:03, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Hello,
> My warm congratulations to the people chosen to the WMF board, and to the
> FDC positions, and also my thankfulness to those who were candidates.
> Running for a public office is a lot of work and even more to invest time
> and energy in such a position. Without these people, things would be a lot
> less democratic in the world.
> Kind reards
> Ziko
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Results
>
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> deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] PRISM, government surveillance, and Wikimedia: Request for community feedback

[Jon Davies]

The reporting in the UK is that it is aimed at 'foreigners'. I think that
is us! Of course that may be for domestic US consumption.

On 15 June 2013 17:56, Gerard Meijssen  wrote:

> Hoi,
> From my perspective ... I live outside the USA, PRISM only brings the
> American people the same surveillance the rest of the world has had for a
> long time. The only difference is that the pretence that the US populace is
> not watched is known to be a fiction.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> On 15 June 2013 17:57, Jon Davies  wrote:
>
> > Speaking as an individual and not on behalf of the chapter (and not as an
> > American obviously) I think this seems a proportional response but would
> > encourage everyone in the UK community to share their thoughts.
> > I think it would be naive to think this was not aimed at US citizens as
> > well, despite denials, but it certainly has implications for our freedoms
> > in Europe.
> >
> > Jon Davies
> >
> >
> > On 15 June 2013 00:59, Geoff Brigham  wrote:
> >
> > > Note:  German (Deutsch) and Spanish (Español) versions are below.
> > >
> > > ***English***
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We want to direct your attention to our blog post (
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/14/prism-surveillance-wikimedia/ )
> > > about the PRISM situation involving government intelligence
> > > surveillance on the Internet.  We are asking for Wikimedia community
> > > feedback on a proposed course of action (
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PRISM ). In short, we are inclined to
> > > recommend that the Wikimedia Foundation collaborate with organizations
> > > including Mozilla, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Free
> > > Software Foundation, and the Center for Democracy and Technology.
> > > These groups have now prepared an open letter to the US congress
> > > (https://www.stopwatching.us/ ), calling for transparency,
> > > investigation, reform, and accountability, and have asked other
> > > organizations (including the Wikimedia Foundation) to join them in
> > > their efforts.
> > >
> > > We ask you to read the blog post for more details, and encourage you
> > > to tell us your views on this.
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Geoff and Luis
> > >
> > > Geoff Brigham
> > > General Counsel
> > >
> > > Luis Villa
> > > Deputy General Counsel
> > > Wikimedia Foundation
> > >
> > > Note:  We expect to have a couple more translations of this
> > > announcement in the next couple of days.  We would like to ask the
> > > international Wikimedia community to help translate the blog posting
> > > and feedback page (which are almost the same) as well as people’s
> > > feedback given throughout the course of this consultation period.  Due
> > > to tight time limits, we hope to have professional translations for
> > > these documents posted by next Tuesday for at least German, French,
> > > Spanish, and Japanese.
> > >
> > > ___
> > >
> > > ***Deutsch***
> > >
> > > Hallo,
> > >
> > > Wir würden eure Aufmerksamkeit gern auf unseren Blogeintrag (
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/14/prism-surveillance-wikimedia/ )
> > > zur PRISM-Situation und geheimdienstlicher Überwachung des Internets
> > > lenken. Wir bitten die Wikimediagemeinschaften um Rückmeldung zum
> > > vorgeschlagenen Vorgehen. (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PRISM)
> > >
> > > Kurz zusammengefasst tendieren wir dazu zu empfehlen, dass die
> > > Wikimedia Foundation mit Organisationen wie Mozilla, der Electronic
> > > Frontier Foundation, der Free Software Foundation und dem Zentrum für
> > > Demokratie und Technologie zusammenarbeitet. Diese Gruppen haben einen
> > > offenen Brief an den Kongress der Vereinigten Staaten
> > > (https://www.stopwatching.us/) vorbereitet um Transparenz,
> > > Untersuchung der Vorgänge, Reform sowie Rechenschaftspflicht
> > > einzufordern und haben andere Organisationen (einschließlich der
> > > Wikimedia Foundation) darum gebeten dieses Vorhaben zu unterstützen.
> > >
> > > Wir bitten euch den Blogeintrag mit den zugehörigen Details zu lesen
> > > und uns eure Meinung zu dem Vorschlag mitzuteilen.
> > >
> > > Vielen Dank,
> > >
> > > Geoff und Luis
> > >
> > > Geoff Brigham
> > > General Counsel
> &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] PRISM, government surveillance, and Wikimedia: Request for community feedback

[Jon Davies]

Speaking as an individual and not on behalf of the chapter (and not as an
American obviously) I think this seems a proportional response but would
encourage everyone in the UK community to share their thoughts.
I think it would be naive to think this was not aimed at US citizens as
well, despite denials, but it certainly has implications for our freedoms
in Europe.

Jon Davies


On 15 June 2013 00:59, Geoff Brigham  wrote:

> Note:  German (Deutsch) and Spanish (Español) versions are below.
>
> ***English***
>
> Hi all,
>
> We want to direct your attention to our blog post (
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/14/prism-surveillance-wikimedia/ )
> about the PRISM situation involving government intelligence
> surveillance on the Internet.  We are asking for Wikimedia community
> feedback on a proposed course of action (
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PRISM ). In short, we are inclined to
> recommend that the Wikimedia Foundation collaborate with organizations
> including Mozilla, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Free
> Software Foundation, and the Center for Democracy and Technology.
> These groups have now prepared an open letter to the US congress
> (https://www.stopwatching.us/ ), calling for transparency,
> investigation, reform, and accountability, and have asked other
> organizations (including the Wikimedia Foundation) to join them in
> their efforts.
>
> We ask you to read the blog post for more details, and encourage you
> to tell us your views on this.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Geoff and Luis
>
> Geoff Brigham
> General Counsel
>
> Luis Villa
> Deputy General Counsel
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> Note:  We expect to have a couple more translations of this
> announcement in the next couple of days.  We would like to ask the
> international Wikimedia community to help translate the blog posting
> and feedback page (which are almost the same) as well as people’s
> feedback given throughout the course of this consultation period.  Due
> to tight time limits, we hope to have professional translations for
> these documents posted by next Tuesday for at least German, French,
> Spanish, and Japanese.
>
> ___
>
> ***Deutsch***
>
> Hallo,
>
> Wir würden eure Aufmerksamkeit gern auf unseren Blogeintrag (
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/14/prism-surveillance-wikimedia/ )
> zur PRISM-Situation und geheimdienstlicher Überwachung des Internets
> lenken. Wir bitten die Wikimediagemeinschaften um Rückmeldung zum
> vorgeschlagenen Vorgehen. (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PRISM)
>
> Kurz zusammengefasst tendieren wir dazu zu empfehlen, dass die
> Wikimedia Foundation mit Organisationen wie Mozilla, der Electronic
> Frontier Foundation, der Free Software Foundation und dem Zentrum für
> Demokratie und Technologie zusammenarbeitet. Diese Gruppen haben einen
> offenen Brief an den Kongress der Vereinigten Staaten
> (https://www.stopwatching.us/) vorbereitet um Transparenz,
> Untersuchung der Vorgänge, Reform sowie Rechenschaftspflicht
> einzufordern und haben andere Organisationen (einschließlich der
> Wikimedia Foundation) darum gebeten dieses Vorhaben zu unterstützen.
>
> Wir bitten euch den Blogeintrag mit den zugehörigen Details zu lesen
> und uns eure Meinung zu dem Vorschlag mitzuteilen.
>
> Vielen Dank,
>
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>
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> Feedbackseite (die beiden sind fast identisch) sowie der Rückmeldungen
> aus der Community während der Konsultationsperiode mitzuhelfen. Durch
> die kurze Vorbereitungszeit hoffen wir bis Dienstag zumindest
> professionelle Übersetzungen für die Dokumente zumindest in Deutsch,
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> Queremos dirigir su atención a nuestra entrada en el blog (
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> sobre la situación PRISM involucra la vigilancia de inteligencia del
> gobierno en Internet. Estamos pidiendo Wikimedia retroalimentación de
> la comunidad sobre un curso de acción propuesto. (
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PRISM ) En resumen, nos sentimos
> inclinados a recomendar que la Fundación Wikimedia colaborar con
> organizaciones como Mozilla, la Fundación Fronteras Electrónicas, la
> Fundación para el software libre y el Centro para la Democracia y la
> Tecnología. Estos grupos han preparado una carta abierta al Congreso
> de EE.UU. (https://www.stopwatching.us/), exigiendo la transparencia,
> la investigación, la reforma y la 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Simple English hits 100k this week

[Jon Davies]

Or for people who like clear English!

On 30 May 2013 12:10, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 30 May 2013 03:36, Sarah Stierch  wrote:
>
> > Simple English is a Wikipedia that is for children and adults learning
> how
> > to speak English.
>
> And for people with a learning disability.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] State of the Map US, San Francisco June 7-10

[Jon Davies]

Re OSM future strategy:
I would be happy to talk to them and perhaps look for synergies.
Jon

On 24 May 2013 09:51, Tom Morris  wrote:

> Of possible interest to WMF staff and others in San Francisco, State of
> the Map US is happening in a few weeks.
>
> http://stateofthemap.us/
>
> Schedule: http://stateofthemap.us/schedule.html
>
> They are discussing a wide variety of things which have crossover to
> Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects including use of OSM in secondary
> and higher education, technical matters including building the new editor,
> vector maps, imports and operations, data analysis, community and social
> issues. Looks like fun.
>
> The main State of the Map conference this year is in Birmingham, England
> in September. http://2013.stateofthemap.org/
>
> In terms of governance stuff, the OSM Foundation is going through a
> similar process of long-term strategy as Wikimedia did many years ago:
> trying to decide whether to stay small or expand, how to work with
> community members, businesses who use OSM data, developers and so on. In
> these discussions, frequent reference is made to Wikimedia as a big sister.
> ;-)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Effectiveness of meetings (Was: Affcom ...)

[Jon Davies]

I have sat through so many meetings that wasted time in various degrees
that I thought of a football referee system where people could hold us
yellow or red cards if they thought the meeting should be 'warned' or 'sent
off'.
More than two cards and the meeting gets abandoned or sorts itself out.

On 14 May 2013 18:16, Mathias Damour  wrote:

> Le 14/05/2013 13:39, Lodewijk a écrit :
>
>> (...)
>>
>> Based on these desired outcomes, you can estimate up front if the meeting
>> is likely to be 'worth it'. If not, you can reduce the costs, increase the
>> outcomes (different setup) or cancel all together.
>>
>>  2013/5/14 Lodewijk 
>>>
>>>  The second relevant question is, in my opinion, whether the WMF travel
>>>> policy
>>>> is good, proportional etc. This policy has mostly received criticism
>>>> from
>>>> two sides - some think it is too elaborate, and WMF should get 'less
>>>> luxury' (again fair discussion, but we should then focus on the whole
>>>> question) - another criticism is that it should be equalized for all
>>>> Wikimedia-sponsored trips, including individual engagement grants,
>>>> trips to the chapters meeting etc. When this question was brought up last
>>>> time, I
>>>> believe it was Sue who mentioned that this would simply result in much
>>>> less travel and participation. Again, a fair question.
>>>>
>>>
> "this would simply result in much less travel" !!! Well, less travel, not
> only cost control, could be a justifiable objective itself.
> I mean that to convert the donations to Wikimedia into burning vast
> amounts of under-taxed kerosene is definitely not an environmentally
> friendly and responsible way to run the Wikimedia movement.
>
> I personally went to the chapter meeting in Milan rather than insist on
> attending the next Wikimania in good part because I could get there by
> train.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

[Jon Davies]

An answer might be to have common criteria included in the FDC bids?


On 25 April 2013 00:29, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov <
alexandrdmitriroma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forwarding from a non subscriber.
>
> Alex
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ad Huikeshoven 
> Date: 2013/4/24
> Subject: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the
> Wikimedia movement?
> To: wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
> Hi Fae,
>
> Great question Fae. For a fundraising charity a breakdown in program,
> fundraising and administrative cost is natural, and in compliance with
> accountanting standards. As far as I know WMF reports according to FAS 117,
> see
>
> http://www.fasb.org/cs/BlobServer?blobcol=urldata&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobkey=id&blobwhere=1175820923228&blobheader=application%2Fpdf
>
> In the UK the standard would be SORP. Wikimedia Nederland adopted Richtlijn
> 650 which is mandatory for getting a certificate from CBF, see
>
> http://www.rjnet.nl/Documents/Uitingen%202011/034578_RJ-Uiting%202011-1%20dd%2031-01-11.pdf
>  and http://www.cbf.nl/CBF-Beoordelingen/criteria-keur.php.
>
> The accounting standards give guidelines about what can be allocated to
> program costs, what should be included in fundraising cost and what are
> administrative cost. FDC entities are required to produce audited financial
> statements. The external auditor will review allocation of cost and
> transparency of explanatory notes.
>
> International charity guideline is to have
> program:fundraising:administrative cost ratios according to 75:10:15,
> noting the 10 and 15 are maximums. A source for these ratios is
> http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=48
>
> Costs of evaluating impact of programs. Would you include those cost in
> administrative costs? Could costs of impact evaluations be part of program
> cost. If not, why not? If yes, what is your rationale?
>
> Greetings and regards,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

[Jon Davies]

A very slow reply to this proposal.

I agree wholeheartedly with this approach and know a little about how
important 'Brussels' is and how we need to have a united, well researched
and persuasive voice there.

I am not sure who our key person would be to support this but will ask
around the community.

Jon Davies.


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> Christophe Henner, 20/02/2013 12:07:
>
>  Agreed, that was my hidden message. But for such endeavour to succeed
>> paid time and paid time in Brussels will be needed :)
>>
>
> We also have some additional experiences to learn from.
> I liked this: https://digitalegesellschaft.**de/2012/06/how-to-build-an-**
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting application

[Jon Davies]

Mozart, being Austrian, was more discreet?

On 19 February 2013 07:27, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> sooo weird...
>
> Just some observations, my written English is bad, it is something I have
> to
> improve, however, my understanding, both read when listening are close to a
> native, and my oral production is excellent (:P). And honestly, I will not
> really use my writing ability in Wikimania or Hong Kong, but my English was
> evaluated for it.
>
> But I think the message should be "have a level of English sufficient to
> follow the lectures, discussions and conversations"
>
> And also I did not find that a good test for English, there's a maximum
> limit, but there is no minimum limit. I could say: "I have a very
> restricted diet because I am Jewish and vegan, so my diet is restricted to
> that."
>
> I could say, or, "I like almost everything, but I'm lactose intolerant, so
> I can do much poop if I eat things with milk." Until that can be
> interpreted only
> as something to check if I have dietary restrictions, as in previous
> questionnaires.
>
> And one of the advantages of being Brazilian, is that many of us find it
> easy to understand other Latinos, the reverse is not true, I would not find
> it strange to see some lectures in Interlingua, or even, Italian or
> Spanish.
>
> But as the Wikimania is itinerant, lectures in the local language could be
> very interesting, and even a form of local people interact more, I
> know that English
> is present among the HK natives, but I do not see why not have a lectures
> in
> Cantonese to appreciate local culture...
>
>
> On 19 February 2013 01:09, Mathieu Stumpf  >wrote:
>
> > Le lundi 18 février 2013 à 21:09 +1100, Liam Wyatt a écrit :
> > > Yes, I think that writing "I will bring Stroopwafels" gives you an
> > > automatic extra 10points in the scholarship assessment ;-)
> > >
> > > wittylama.com
> > > Peace, love & metadata
> >
> > Goddamn[1], why do you tell that only now!
> >
> > [1] Of course you should have read "le Mariage de Figaro" to understand
> > this subtle reference :
> > {{fr}} http://monsu.desiderio.free.fr/bibliotheque/goddam.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: [Chapters Association] Next steps from the WCA coordination weekend // 16-17 Feb

[Jon Davies]

It was a pleasure to host you all and glad you made progress. Will pass
your thanks on to Richard Nevell.

Jon Davies
CEO UK Chapter.

PS Hope you were all warm enough.

On 18 February 2013 18:38, Fae  wrote:

> Dear fellow committed Wikimedians and Chapter enthusiasts,
>
> Last weekend a number of Wikimedia Chapters Association Council
> members, two trustees from the WMF board and some welcome guests,
> worked together to review in detail the current progress of the
> association and feedback given by the WMF board.[1][2]
>
> A total of nine Council members took part with several being able to
> join using video conferencing and etherpad. There were a number of
> firm recommendations, along with a series of immediate actions. The
> meeting minutes will be issued later this week and everyone can
> preview all the notes taken during the meeting.[3][4] The meeting was
> fully open and the Council will continue to use open public
> communication channels, in preference to closed lists or meetings,
> recognizing recent community feedback on how best to meet our shared
> values of openness and transparency.
>
> As the Council chair, I can summarize these points as follows, and
> will be happy to refine and discuss these with an open dialogue on
> meta[4]:
> 1) A small set of action teams have been agreed with a focus on
> external deliverables including chapter peer reviews, providing advice
> and analysing chapter practices. The time-frame is *three months* for
> key deliverables and all are expected to be part of the Milan
> conference in April.[3][6]
> 2) The recruitment of a Secretary General is parked until such a time
> as the council is confident of securing a budget and there is a strong
> consensus on the immediate necessity of such a role or its equivalent.
> Legally incorporating the Association will also be similarly parked,
> as the driving factor would have been the need to employ staff.
> 3) The previously planned elections for Wikimedia Chapters Association
> Council Chair will be brought forward one month, to starting this
> week. A separate note/email will explain the process of one week
> calling for nomination statements, questions and a similar time for
> the council vote.
>
> Thank you to those who have engaged already with feedback and those
> that were available to take part in the meeting last weekend. For
> those Council members and interested Wikimedians who were unable to
> take part, I welcome your feedback on this pragmatic way forward as
> early as possible, and I encourage you to lend a hand with the action
> teams, as they will benefit your chapter directly.
>
> A special thanks to Wikimedia UK for offering to host the London
> meeting, including Richard Nevell's support with practical logistics
> all weekend, including much needed coffee and sandwiches. I look
> forward to seeing many Chapters helping the action teams and future
> activities of the Association, with suggestions and practical offers
> of staff support. :-)
>
> Links
> 1.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Chapters_Association#WMF_Board_letter_regarding_the_Chapters_Association
> 2.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Meetings/2013-07/Questionnaire
> 3.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Meetings/2013-07
> 4. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ep/pad/view/WCA/latest
> 5. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Chapters_Association
> 6. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2013
>
> Thank you,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

[Jon Davies]

Do the response times get published?

On 23 January 2013 01:28, phoebe ayers  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:
> > Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> >>1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Reports/2012
> >>2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS
> >
> > Nice. Thanks for putting this together. :-)
> >
> > MZMcBride
> >
>
> +1, thanks, this is a great report! It's very cool to see these
> numbers. Answering 50K emails, many of which are complex and delicate,
> is a pretty massive undertaking -- as ever I am super impressed with
> the diligence of our OTRS'ers!
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A "related project's" perspective on WMF

[Jon Davies]

Makes me nostalgic.

On 9 January 2013 13:02, Andrew Gray  wrote:

> I've noticed this discussion on the OpenStreetMap mailing list:
>
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-January/065624.html &
> onwards
>
> There's a few parallels being drawn there (both good and bad) to
> Wikimedia, to the way it's developed over time, and to what degree
> this should be a model for similar organisations like OSM, eg/
>
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-January/065648.html
> http://osm.gryph.de/2012/04/learn-from-wikipedia/
>
> Quite an interesting perspective!
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