Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-23 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Yes, with deep sorrow today I got to know that I was wrong - *we lost one wikipedian*. I dare to hope that it will be one and only such 'mistake' meaning no more dead bodies will be discovered and all heavily wounded people will survive. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
A lot of cordial thanks to everybody for your concerns and worryings in our safety as well as your wishes, we appreciate that very much. As for today all WMUA members are safe (according to information available), but there is more troubles so dangers (risks) ahead, mainly in Kharkiv and other citi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikidag 2013

2013-09-26 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Ole, A lot of thanks for your brief but rather informative report. There is one point (of your report) that is of most interest for us in WMUA: > *The general assembly criticised the board soundly* Would you please provide some idea (with some details if possible) what was the main topics/s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-05 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
It seems to me, that Lars in wording *> **you take a step aside and are no longer actively involved in any Wiki* means seasoned Wiki veterans, so *former* insiders. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Who is both "independent", knowledgeable, and not involved in a wiki? > > All

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-05 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
and of course this means > > need of different ways of handling problems. I do not pretend to have > > anything to teach en:wp, but as said I find nothing useful for sv:wp > > hearing of the challenges on en:wp > > > > Anders > > > > > > Pavlo Shevelo sk

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-05 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
contributers then sv:wp and of course this means need > of different ways of handling problems. I do not pretend to have anything > to teach en:wp, but as said I find nothing useful for sv:wp hearing of the > challenges on en:wp > > Anders > > > Pavlo Shevelo skrev 2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-05 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Sorry, but I'm not agree with your note, Anders. My home WP is not en: (it's uk: in fact) but everything being discussed is very (100%) applicable for our community. Lucky you are in se:WP that you have no similar issues/problems but perhaps you've collected some magical know-how how to avoid sai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

2013-08-20 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
r if a 'visible' hierarchy 'reverts' users into ordinary people... > > ziko, thank you for sharing this! > > best regards, > antanana > > > 2013/8/20 Pavlo Shevelo > > > Hello Ziko, > > > > I like your diary very much and I just lov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

2013-08-20 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Ziko, I like your diary very much and I just love your point regarding "fundamental lack of political education among the activists". Regards, Pavlo On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Dear friends of free knowledge, > > Over the past days I have been approached by m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-19 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
I'm glad that antanana (she don't like capital letters as you can see :) ) joined our discussion. Now is her very first term in the Board (we reelect the board each year) and she brought a lot of 'fresh air' to our Board and proceeds to do so every day and even night (for example she sent her let

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-19 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
r well) and ... and ... and ... as well ;) ___ Obviously I'm not closing the topic and all and every further comments, insights, ...peer reviews will be highly appreciated! Thanks again, Asaf!!! Sincerely, Pavlo Shevelo Proud member of WMUA [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-18 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
mentioned "and rights" in his questioning, so I believe his perception is closer to mine (while critics or at least questioning - is one of the rights for me and I guess for Nemo as well). On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Manuel Schneider < manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-18 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
as members of the chapter Since said ruling - not in the mailing list(s), while community Portal survived (yet? the administrators there are ...surprise - Board and AC members as well). As we all know discussions on the wiki (like Portals, Village pumps etc.) doesn't eliminate the need of mail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-18 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Dear Manuel, Thanks for your swift comment & advice, I appreciate (while I'm one of the administrators at WikiUK-l, by the way :) ). Forgive me for missing the detail which was obvious for me - I'm WMUA member (from the moment of it legal registration back in 2009) so I'm from inside WMUA as a pr

[Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

2013-08-18 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
so, in that meaning immoral) behaviour of some of WMUA Board members * ...etc. and [3] and [4] are some entry points for that ...'deepness'. Sincerely, Pavlo Shevelo (my WPnick is the same :)) [1] http://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%96%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-24 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
> only someone or something that understands language can translate perfectly Precisely > crude translations into little used languages are nearly worthless due to syntax issues. Useful work requires at least one person fluent in the language It's very true! Current Googe MT tools are reasonably