Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-12 Thread Pine W
Hi Nemo, Cascadia Wikimedians' current discussions with Affcom and WMF Legal are about some wording on the Affiliation Agreement document. We have not discussed becoming a chapter in any great detail, and as you note the WMF Board created a longevity requirement. We have had informal meetings in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-12 Thread Stephen LaPorte
Hello Pine, Although we cannot commit to a systematic 14-day response time for all inquiries, I do think that would be reasonable for routine inquiries, depending on the amount of collaboration outside of the legal department. As mentioned, AffCom is independent from the legal department, so I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-11 Thread Pine W
Thank you for that information, Asaf, Kirill, and James. James: my point still stands that somehow at IEGCom we are able to respond substantively to almost 100% if inquiries within 7 days. It seems to me that if we can do this at IEGCom, then asking Legal and Affcom to commit to substantively

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-11 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Pine, I think nobody wants to say that questions should take longer to get answered - we all would like your inquiries to be answered sooner rather than later. To accomplish this, the Committee has made changes in its workflow several times in the past year, to especially make user group

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-11 Thread Pine W
Hi Lodewijk, Let me make a few points: 1. I appreciate that Affcom is working to make its outputs more timely, especially for user group decisions. 2. I hear you say that you are under-resourced with volunteers and staff support. I appreciate that serving on Affcom is probably one of the more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-11 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Pine, We are actively following the case of Cascadia Wikimedians to see whether we can facilitate the signing of the user group agreement between the user group and WMFLegal (the group's recognition has been approved by AffCom in September -- apologies in any delays you have experienced up to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Pine W, 11/10/2014 22:05: 4. We in Cascadia Wikimedians (and I imagine other thematic organizations) have our own timelines that we need to deal with, and needing to wait indefinitely for Affcom and Legal to make decisions [...] a) Be aware it's impossible to understant what you're talking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 3. I don't hear of a need for more staff support for Affcom from the most recent Grantmaking quarterly review [1], so I am not sure if and when this is going to happen. This may be a point that Asaf can address. The idea of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-10 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kirill, my understanding is that Affcom functions under the Legal department, much like the Individual Engagement Grants Committee functions under the Grantmaking department. Is that so, and if not, which department is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal

2014-10-10 Thread Asaf Bartov
That's correct. And for completeness, I am the primary staff liaison to AffCom, with Stephen LaPorte providing support on legal matters. A. On Oct 10, 2014 3:40 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kirill,