Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-12-04 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Any CC license on Wikidata would be like puting a copyright on facts. I obviously strongly object on that, and therefore I also strongly object puting anything other than public domain or CC0 on Wikidata. The whole database could have ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread John Erling Blad
Just to make it clear; the discussions at the dev-project was in April-May 2012, linking of wd-items on site late in 29 October 2012 (actually 29. October), Danny told us about his new Google job in January 2013. I believe someone must have gotten this backwards.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread John Erling Blad
You can copyright an expression about facts, but you can't copyright the facts. In some jurisdictions a collection of facts can be given a special protection, but still the individual facts are not protected. >>A single property licensing scheme would allow storage of data, >>it might or might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread Xavier Combelle
Hi, Did not read your whole argument, but as a collection of brute facts, it is hard to see how the content of wikidata could be in something else than public domain. As a whole, the database could present a Sui generis database right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right) ,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hi Mathieu, I understand you care a lot about this topic and are posting about it in many places but I have a personal rule that a lot of the people in Wikidata know. I am willing to discuss and explain basically anything on a calm and rational basis. (And I did this on-wiki I believe.) The rule

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2017-11-29 23:45 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Stumpf Guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: > Now, what would be the additional cost of storing sources in > Wikidata? Well, zero cost. Actually, it's already here as the > "reference" attribute is part of the Wikibase item structure. So >