[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

+1. Thank you very much, FJ. This is good to see, especially in such an unhappy time as the present one. Deserves to be shared widely. Andreas On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 7:09 PM Farah Jack Mustaklem wrote: > Dear Wikimedia community, > Today marks our friend Osama's thirtieth birthday, which,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Dear Wikimedia community, Today marks our friend Osama's thirtieth birthday, which, instead of celebrating with his loved ones, he is spending in jail serving a 32 year sentence. Osama was an asset to the Wikimedia community and he is dearly missed. Today, several civil society organizations have

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Dear all, To give an example of how human rights organisations deal with Internet-related cases in Saudi Arabia, the Amnesty International website has a page titled "*Saudi Arabia: Release activist jailed for 34yrs for tweets: Salma al-Shehab*":

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

This does indeed seem to make some assumptions: * That WMF is not already in contact with relevant human rights organizations * That including these individuals in a writing campaign is indeed considered the best approach to help them at this point * That a public association of this type is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

There are some good ideas in this thread, but nothing concrete, actionable, and to which Foundation officials have been able and willing to give a clear, simple yes or no answer. Here is a simple and concrete proposal which could be started immediately: Foundation personnel should reach out to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Crap I?ve hit sent too early!I am not sure it exists, but in line with Lodewijk comment having a guide on how can people help and/or a place where people can list themselves to make it known they can be reached to help on those topics, could be ways to leverage our communities in those

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Bassel was at a time when there was little to none activity on those topics.Since then the approach got professionalized.I understand the lack of information is frustrated, but most of the time any action taken has to be confidential.Having been on the other side of curtain a bit, it?s one of the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Thanks, Lane. The WMF published numerous Diff posts on Bassel. I believe the first one was in October 2015, less than a week after Bassel was killed: #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings of Palmyra missing in Syria https://diff.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

"Have there been any recent cases where community voices were mobilized to contribute to national or international campaigns for someone's release?" We organized Wikipedia editing events in 2011-12 for Aaron Swartz. Events were not so documented back then, but there were wiki meetups in the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Have there been any recent cases where community voices were mobilized to contribute to national or international campaigns for someone's release? It sounds like a community group, working to support others, might be an outlet for interest in advocating for those in jail, and maintaining up to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Hello, all. I’m Maggie Dennis. I’m the VP who oversees our human rights team in its work. Reiterating what the team previously said about not being able to discuss particular situations, I can disclose a little more general points about our approach as you pose, LW, and, I hope, address some of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Dear WMF Human Rights Team: I would like some clarification on your statement below. In particular, does your stated approach allow you to follow the best practices described at https://freedomhouse.org/2023/summit-for-democracy-political-prisoners to, e.g., "meet regularly with family members of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Thanks for this response - as little content as it may have. I can totally understand it. As I was reading the questions in this thread, I felt uneasy with the questions, because I can imagine that there are people working on these issues in our movement (whether in the WMF or not) who may have a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

In the interest of safeguarding confidential information and ensuring the safety of our community members, the Foundation will not publicly disclose details regarding human rights cases. The Human Rights Team recently updated its meta page to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 14:07, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Is anyone at the WMF doing anything in support of the two jailed Saudi > Wikimedians, be it liaising with international or regional human rights > organisations, the US State Department, briefing journalists so the wider > public is aware of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Let's put it a different way then: Is anyone at the WMF doing anything in support of the two jailed Saudi Wikimedians, be it liaising with international or regional human rights organisations, the US State Department, briefing journalists so the wider public is aware of the situation, or anything

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

Frankly, that's implausible. On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 3:37 PM DerHexer via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > I do think that posting any kind of response to these questions *on a > public mailing list* would do more harm than good. Thank you. > > Best, > DerHexer > *Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

I do think that posting any kind of response to these questions on a public mailing list would do more harm than good. Thank you. Best,DerHexerWikimedia Steward Am Montag, 25. September 2023 um 21:20:21 MESZ hat Andreas Kolbe Folgendes geschrieben: Dear all, As there was a recent