On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The meeting will take place November 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM UTC. The IRC
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Dear all,
At its in-person meeting on 26 October, the board unanimously agreed to
accept the recommendation to narrow focus as presented by the Executive
Director.
This vote has been published at:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus
Best
Bishakha
Dear all,
At its in-person meeting of 26 October, the Board of Trustees also approved
the two following resolutions:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Amended_Bylaws
This resolution approved the revised and amended Foundation bylaws. The
updated Bylaws are being adopted to ensure
Just reiterating for the n-th time on this list that people would
appreciate if you publicly shared draft bylaws amendments before
approving them.
The consistent lack of transparency in such fundamental decisions within
the WMF is always astonishing.
After the fact, I'd appreciate a readable
Great news - I propose a heading for the Signpost Board unanimously agreed
to the Executive
Director proposal that Wikimedia movement fends for itself.
Victoria
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote:
Dear all,
At its in-person meeting on 26 October, the
Thanks Bishakha,
while I can understand the move of the WMF to do what they are best at, for
me it is always a bit confusing when the Board (or Sue) is talking about
the Foundation, and when about the movement. I hope I'm correct in my
assumption that this narrowed focus is mostly a Foundation
Dear Bishakha,
could you please elaborate why the board has chosen for a secretive
amendment procedure here, rather than sharing the proposed amendments with
the community and asking their input on it? Especially where it concerns
such non-trivial changes.
I hope that also other board members
As a newly appointed secretary of FDC and just back from San Francisco
after a four days deliberation session, where these thing has been in
focus I can give you some facts from what I have understood.
The Board has earlier decided to give WMF an budget for 2012-2013 for
30,3 MUSD for core
Hi,
as the newly appointed Chair of the FDC, but expressing my personal
understanding, I support Anders' view. The narrowed focus means more
activities done through the chapters, and the community at large. Of course
the specifics will have to be established, but now WMF applies for their
Hi Dariusz and Anders,
Thank you for your replies. It does however not answer my questions -
although I may have worded them poorly. What I'm trying to figure out is
what will happen to the organizational support to the other movement
organizations and individuals. This support is already much
Bishaka,
Seeing as there was no public discussion of these amendments, to my
knowledge, can you at least explain them now?
The responsibilities of the Secretary and Treasurer are board
responsibilities. While the day-to-day work of the role may be delegated to
staff, it is still the job of the
In the meanwhile there are other drafts to review. ;-)
Nemo
Messaggio originale
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Hello Lodewijk,
These are good questions. I expect effort will be required in the short
term to delegate effectively and help move to a narrower focus. A few
clarifying questions for you in return:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
* PR support by
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Thanks Bishakha,
while I can understand the move of the WMF to do what they are best at, for
me it is always a bit confusing when the Board (or Sue) is talking about
the Foundation, and when about the movement. I hope
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote:
Samuel Klein, 02/11/2012 16:01:
* Institutional support for the GLAM related activities in the US (until
the US Federation is fully functional, if ever)
I agree there is room for a global GLAM support for
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote:
Please note the substantive change in Article V: Officers and Duties. As
per the amendments, the Secretary and Treasurer are now non-trustee officer
positions.
This doesn't seem too unreasonable in itself, but it is
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com
wrote:
Please note the substantive change in Article V: Officers and Duties. As
per the amendments, the Secretary and Treasurer are now
BTW, a lot of the organizing work for Wiki Loves Monuments in the US
was
done by three volunteer Wikimedians who also happen to be WMF
employees
(Kaldari, Sarah and Matthew), but did this in their spare time.
Not trying to underestimate their contribution, I am afraid this is
better worded
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:
BTW, a lot of the organizing work for Wiki Loves Monuments in the US was
done by three volunteer Wikimedians who also happen to be WMF employees
(Kaldari, Sarah and Matthew), but did this in their spare time.
Not
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Dear Bishakha,
could you please elaborate why the board has chosen for a secretive
amendment procedure here, rather than sharing the proposed amendments with
the community and asking their input on it? Especially
the evaluation (coming also
from FDC) are focused to promote bigger organizations which are able to
spend a lot.
This must be a misunderstanding. There is now just two weeks until the
FDC recommendation for the 12 proposals for round 1 2012 will be
official where you can judge yourself
Hi SJ,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Lodewijk,
These are good questions. I expect effort will be required in the short
term to delegate effectively and help move to a narrower focus. A few
clarifying questions for you in return:
On Fri,
Photos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas#Wikimedia_Foundation_Monthly_Metrics_Meeting_November_1.2C_2012
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The meeting will take place
Yes, there is a misunderstandings.
I am not speaking about how the FDC committee is judging, but about the
overall process which is the same for an organization asking 30 MUSD and an
organization asking 100K USD.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Anders Wennersten
m...@anderswennersten.sewrote:
Hi Bishakha,
In my opinion, given the generally curious nature of our movement, it might
be a good idea to make more preparatory material for the board meetings
available publicly in advance.
Not necessarily as a way to allow comments or input, but as a matter of
transparency. Especially for
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bishakha,
In my opinion, given the generally curious nature of our movement, it might
be a good idea to make more preparatory material for the board meetings
available publicly in advance.
Not necessarily as a way
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
It would be nice if someone could export the linked presentation from
Google
Docs and upload it to wikimediafoundation.org (or Wikimedia Commons) as a
PDF or ODP (or both). I don't think we should rely on external resources
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have an example in mind of a recent press release that took
advantage of this support?
How useful to you find ComCom, as a list and network, compared to direct
personal facilitation by WMF staff?
I spent a
On Nov 2, 2012 3:07 PM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
The responsibilities of the Secretary and Treasurer are board
responsibilities. While the day-to-day work of the role may be
delegated to
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
The question I am missing in this analysis (but perhaps it was discussed
orally) is 'which organization/group/individual is best placed to execute
this' and then I definitely agree that many events etc are probably
Hi Bishakha,
2012/11/2 Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
Dear Bishakha,
could you please elaborate why the board has chosen for a secretive
amendment procedure here, rather than sharing the proposed
Dear all,
I have set up a brainstorming page on metawiki (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Democratizing_the_Wikimedia_Foundation)
where I would like to invite you to think about ways to democratize the
Wikimedia Foundation.
This doesn't mean that the Wikimedia Foundation is totally
Hi all,
I have a comment inline below. Humor me on my rampage about the US and
our desperate need for a more organized GLAM movement in this giant
country.
On 11/2/12 8:01 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
* Institutional support for the GLAM related activities in the US (until
the US Federation
On 11/2/12 8:15 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Samuel Klein, 02/11/2012 16:01:
* Institutional support for the GLAM related activities in the US
(until
the US Federation is fully functional, if ever)
I agree there is room for a global GLAM support for regions that
don't have
local
2012/11/2 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org:
Dear all,
I have set up a brainstorming page on metawiki (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Democratizing_the_Wikimedia_Foundation)
where I would like to invite you to think about ways to democratize the
Wikimedia Foundation.
This doesn't mean
It's a good idea to make prep materials available a week in advance, to the
community as to the board.
Exceptions can be made for any materials that are sensitive in nature.
I can think of only one or two examples from the past few meetings. Much
of the material is published afterwards anyway.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote:
On 11/2/12 8:15 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Samuel Klein, 02/11/2012 16:01:
* Institutional support for the GLAM related activities in the US (until
the US Federation is fully functional, if ever)
I agree
Could I ask about what information the Board had in addition to these
slides? The slides provide little in the way of hard numbers for financial
and ROI information, such as expected improvements to editor retention or
the Visual Editor's progress that should occur with the changes to funding
Hi Sam,
some people have excellently answered as well - I especially agree with
what Bence and Matthew wrote. I will answer some things myself as well
though.
2012/11/2 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com
Hello Lodewijk,
These are good questions. I expect effort will be required in the short
On 2 November 2012 16:06, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I've added a reference link into the resolution at:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Amended_Bylaws
Please go through this to compare old and revised versions of the bylaws;
since there are many small
Thank you for those replies, Tony and Tilman.
Pine
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Hi Patricio,
I am especially focussing on democracy (community involvement) and
transparency. I am afraid 'improving governance' is too broad and vague for
most of us to grasp. I realize that the title is a bit challenging and
tickling - that was intentional :)
I'm glad you appreciate it, and i
Bishakha Datta wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
It would be nice if someone could export the linked presentation from Google
Docs and upload it to wikimediafoundation.org (or Wikimedia Commons) as a PDF
or ODP (or both). I don't think we should rely on
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
I don't see how this validates the fact that you did not consult the
community on these changes. If the changes are fairly trivial and
legalistic, then the community will likely have little objection. But as
you
Sarah Stierch wrote:
I'm not sure why it was posted on the WMF blog. I'm sure if other
countries submitted their top ten's they'd be posted to the WMF blog.
Remember: anyone in the movement - around the world - can write a blog
for the WMF blog, in any language they want. So do it!
I'm
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Sarah Stierch wrote:
I'm not sure why it was posted on the WMF blog. I'm sure if other
countries submitted their top ten's they'd be posted to the WMF blog.
Remember: anyone in the movement - around the world - can write a
Hi Phoebe,
thank you for your thoughts. I must admit that I don't remember these
discussions and yes, I understand the frustration even more with this
background. Like Bishakha and Sam I will support to publish as much
information as possible before our meetings. I agree that this issue
would have
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:
Basically there is a weak evaluation costs/benefits. An organization
spending 30 millions of USD should produce benefits for 30 millions of USD
and should be evaluated as an organization spending 30 millions of USD. Big
Bishakha Datta, 02/11/2012 17:08:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Benjamin Lees wrote:
This doesn't seem too unreasonable in itself, but it is somewhat surprising
that you didn't readjust the board's composition accordingly. The
justification for having unelected seats is to ensure that the
Hi Tilman,
Could you explain the logic behind the survey link not being static until
the user completes the survey or dismisses the notice?
I appreciate that you're offering, via email, to give people the survey
link if they missed it, but that will influence who ends up your survey
population.
On 11/2/12 6:43 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
If you live outside of Washington, D.C. and New York City vicinities,
the Wikipedia world in the US is a VERY lonely place. Perhaps not for
everyone, but for many more than you'd think. I meet Wikipedians in
the US who have no clue there is a grant
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
My apologies. I read your previous suggestion during the travel guide
discussion and the only real route for communicating with a Board member to
solicit a proposal seemed to me to be private user-to-user e-mail. Are
there
Thanks Tilman. Good to see the offer is in the public FAQ.
I was on my phone at the time I saw it, and having some time on my hands I
tried to fill it in. I managed to screw up the survey software on the
languages selection by trying to select more than one, and then it wouldnt
let me pick any. I
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Dear all,
I have set up a brainstorming page on metawiki (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Democratizing_the_Wikimedia_Foundation)
where I would like to invite you to think about ways to democratize the
Wikimedia
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