Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Alex Monk]

I've had issues receiving MW EmailUser mail from users with Yahoo addresses
too.
On 23 Jan 2016 17:41, "Marc A. Pelletier"  wrote:

> On 2016-01-23 1:24 AM, Josh Lim wrote:
>
>> Is there anyone else here who’s subscribed using a Yahoo! address and has
>> spam problems, either with their or others’ e-mails?
>>
>>
> Yahoo is known to be problematic for sending and getting mail from labs as
> well.
>
> -- Marc
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Marc A. Pelletier]

On 2016-01-23 1:24 AM, Josh Lim wrote:

Is there anyone else here who’s subscribed using a Yahoo! address and has spam 
problems, either with their or others’ e-mails?



Yahoo is known to be problematic for sending and getting mail from labs 
as well.


-- Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Benjamin Lees]

"This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created."

In the absence of filters, Gmail tends to put mailing list messages
from Yahoo addresses in the spam folder.  As far as I know,
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html
is still basically valid.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Josh Lim  wrote:
> Hi Fae,
>
> I’m subscribed to this mailing list using a Yahoo! e-mail address, and the 
> problem also happens in reverse: some e-mails end up in my spam folder.  The 
> problem is so bad that I’m contemplating switching my subscription to a 
> different e-mail address, but hopefully I won’t need to do that for the 
> foreseeable future.
>
> Is there anyone else here who’s subscribed using a Yahoo! address and has 
> spam problems, either with their or others’ e-mails?
>
> Josh
>
>> Wiadomość napisana przez Fæ  w dniu 23.01.2016, o godz. 
>> 01:38:
>>
>> Sorry you've had to change email Florence.
>>
>> (Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
>> friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
>> have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
>> as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
>> later, by accident, if ever.
>>
>> P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Fae
>>
>> On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard > > wrote:
>>> Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :

 hi Florence,


 Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a board
>
> member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the Conflict
> of
> Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
> to
> disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
> several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
> not
> enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
> good
> governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
> properly anymore on this serious matter.
>


 just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
 pledges/disclosures
 over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
 Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
 consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
 and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
 with
 a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize for
 my clumsy phrasing.

 best,

 dariusz
>>>
>>>
>>> My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
>>> reading this msg from you :
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
>>>
>>> I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is in
>>> fact not an issue. Good :)
>>>
>>> I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
>>> any further feedback.
>>> But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
>>> I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a message...
>>> and it got stuck in moderation !
>>> Hopefully this one will work out...
>>>
>>>
>>> Florence
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>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae 
>> 
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>
> JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM
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> Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University
> Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines
>
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> 321-7582
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Josh Lim]

Hi Fae,

I’m subscribed to this mailing list using a Yahoo! e-mail address, and the 
problem also happens in reverse: some e-mails end up in my spam folder.  The 
problem is so bad that I’m contemplating switching my subscription to a 
different e-mail address, but hopefully I won’t need to do that for the 
foreseeable future.

Is there anyone else here who’s subscribed using a Yahoo! address and has spam 
problems, either with their or others’ e-mails?

Josh

> Wiadomość napisana przez Fæ  w dniu 23.01.2016, o godz. 
> 01:38:
> 
> Sorry you've had to change email Florence.
> 
> (Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
> friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
> have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
> as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
> later, by accident, if ever.
> 
> P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.
> 
> Thanks,
> Fae
> 
> On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard  > wrote:
>> Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :
>>> 
>>> hi Florence,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a board
 
 member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the Conflict
 of
 Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
 to
 disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
 several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
 not
 enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
 good
 governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
 properly anymore on this serious matter.
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
>>> pledges/disclosures
>>> over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
>>> Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
>>> consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
>>> and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
>>> with
>>> a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize for
>>> my clumsy phrasing.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> dariusz
>> 
>> 
>> My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
>> reading this msg from you :
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
>> 
>> I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is in
>> fact not an issue. Good :)
>> 
>> I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
>> any further feedback.
>> But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
>> I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a message...
>> and it got stuck in moderation !
>> Hopefully this one will work out...
>> 
>> 
>> Florence
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> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae 
> 
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JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM
Bachelor of Arts in Political Science
Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University
Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines

jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com  | +63 (915) 321-7582
Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor
http://about.me/josh.lim 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Austin Hair]

And just so everyone's clear, Florence's new subscription has already been
whitelisted.

Austin

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Fæ  wrote:

> Sorry you've had to change email Florence.
>
> (Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
> friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
> have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
> as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
> later, by accident, if ever.
>
> P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
> > Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :
> >>
> >> hi Florence,
> >>
> >>
> >> Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a
> board
> >>>
> >>> member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the
> Conflict
> >>> of
> >>> Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
> >>> to
> >>> disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
> >>> several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
> >>> not
> >>> enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
> >>> good
> >>> governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
> >>> properly anymore on this serious matter.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
> >> pledges/disclosures
> >> over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
> >> Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
> >> consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
> >> and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
> >> with
> >> a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize
> for
> >> my clumsy phrasing.
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >> dariusz
> >
> >
> > My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
> > reading this msg from you :
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
> >
> > I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is
> in
> > fact not an issue. Good :)
> >
> > I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
> > any further feedback.
> > But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
> > I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a
> message...
> > and it got stuck in moderation !
> > Hopefully this one will work out...
> >
> >
> > Florence
> --
> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Fæ]

Sorry you've had to change email Florence.

(Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
later, by accident, if ever.

P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.

Thanks,
Fae

On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard  wrote:
> Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :
>>
>> hi Florence,
>>
>>
>> Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a board
>>>
>>> member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the Conflict
>>> of
>>> Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
>>> to
>>> disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
>>> several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
>>> not
>>> enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
>>> good
>>> governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
>>> properly anymore on this serious matter.
>>>
>>
>>
>> just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
>> pledges/disclosures
>> over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
>> Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
>> consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
>> and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
>> with
>> a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize for
>> my clumsy phrasing.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> dariusz
>
>
> My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
> reading this msg from you :
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
>
> I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is in
> fact not an issue. Good :)
>
> I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
> any further feedback.
> But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
> I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a message...
> and it got stuck in moderation !
> Hopefully this one will work out...
>
>
> Florence
-- 
fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

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[Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

[Florence Devouard]

Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :

hi Florence,


Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a board

member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the Conflict of
Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation to
disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently not
enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a good
governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
properly anymore on this serious matter.




just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI pledges/disclosures
over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you with
a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize for
my clumsy phrasing.

best,

dariusz


My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after 
reading this msg from you : 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html


I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is 
in fact not an issue. Good :)


I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never 
gave any further feedback.

But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a 
message... and it got stuck in moderation !

Hopefully this one will work out...


Florence

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