Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Anna Stillwell]

Well done.
/a

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood 
wrote:

> The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the
> #16WikiWomen!!
>
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
>
> > And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda,
> > EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !
> >
> > I copied it here :
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XM
> rivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether !
> >
> > Flo
> >
> > Le 17/03/2017 à 14:11, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> > > Hello everyone
> > >
> > >
> > > Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !
> > >
> > > The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only
> > > contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the
> > > African women gap !
> > >
> > > Some figures
> > >
> > > * Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the
> > > English version.
> > > * Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master
> article
> > > in terms of quality
> > > * Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been
> > improved
> > > * The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
> > > * Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to
> > > coordinate the effort (nice !)
> > > * The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high
> > > quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good
> > > participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very
> > > cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be
> > > offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
> > > * Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they
> raised
> > > less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
> > > * Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people
> > > participated, 54 people self reported participating to the
> > > translate-a-thon ! Awesome !
> > >
> > > I hope everybody enjoyed it.
> > >
> > >
> > > If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"
> > >
> > > 1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic
> > > communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post
> > > information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or
> > > Arabic ...)... very tough
> > >
> > > 2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the
> > > query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really
> > > tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know
> > > that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query
> > > myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing
> > > something here
> > >
> > > 3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation
> > > feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird
> > >
> > > Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information
> about
> > > the drive around.
> > >
> > > Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies
> ;)
> > >
> > > Florence
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> > >> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki
> Loves
> > >> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
> > >>
> > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
> > >>
> > >> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> > >> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> > >> languages (African or international languages).
> > >>
> > >> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African
> women.
> > >> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> > >> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish,
> Portuguese,
> > >> Mandarin, German
> > >> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana,
> Zulu,
> > >> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe,
> Sesotho,
> > >> Chichewa
> > >>
> > >> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> > >> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> > >> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> > >> initial version was in French
> > >> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> > >> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> > >> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> > >> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> > >> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> > >> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> > >> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> > >> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> > >> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Isla Haddow-Flood]

The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the
#16WikiWomen!!

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard  wrote:

> And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda,
> EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !
>
> I copied it here :
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XMrivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing
>
> So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether !
>
> Flo
>
> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:11, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> > Hello everyone
> >
> >
> > Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !
> >
> > The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only
> > contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the
> > African women gap !
> >
> > Some figures
> >
> > * Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the
> > English version.
> > * Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master article
> > in terms of quality
> > * Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been
> improved
> > * The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
> > * Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to
> > coordinate the effort (nice !)
> > * The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high
> > quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good
> > participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very
> > cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be
> > offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
> > * Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they raised
> > less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
> > * Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people
> > participated, 54 people self reported participating to the
> > translate-a-thon ! Awesome !
> >
> > I hope everybody enjoyed it.
> >
> >
> > If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"
> >
> > 1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic
> > communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post
> > information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or
> > Arabic ...)... very tough
> >
> > 2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the
> > query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really
> > tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know
> > that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query
> > myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing
> > something here
> >
> > 3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation
> > feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird
> >
> > Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information about
> > the drive around.
> >
> > Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies ;)
> >
> > Florence
> >
> >
> > Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :
> >> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> >> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
> >>
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
> >>
> >> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> >> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> >> languages (African or international languages).
> >>
> >> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> >> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> >> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> >> Mandarin, German
> >> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> >> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> >> Chichewa
> >>
> >> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> >> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> >> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> >> initial version was in French
> >> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> >> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> >> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> >> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> >> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> >> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> >> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> >> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> >> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> >> rights activist
> >> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> >> Arabic
> >> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> >> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> >> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> >> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda, 
EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !


I copied it here : 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XMrivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing


So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether !

Flo

Le 17/03/2017 à 14:11, Florence Devouard a écrit :

Hello everyone


Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !

The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only
contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the
African women gap !

Some figures

* Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the
English version.
* Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master article
in terms of quality
* Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been improved
* The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
* Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to
coordinate the effort (nice !)
* The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high
quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good
participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very
cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be
offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
* Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they raised
less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
* Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people
participated, 54 people self reported participating to the
translate-a-thon ! Awesome !

I hope everybody enjoyed it.


If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"

1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic
communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post
information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or
Arabic ...)... very tough

2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the
query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really
tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know
that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query
myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing
something here

3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation
feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird

Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information about
the drive around.

Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies ;)

Florence


Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants



Results will be tracked on this page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

Hello everyone


Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !

The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only 
contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the 
African women gap !


Some figures

* Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the 
English version.
* Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master article 
in terms of quality

* Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been improved
* The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
* Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to 
coordinate the effort (nice !)
* The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high 
quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good 
participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very 
cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be 
offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
* Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they raised 
less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
* Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people 
participated, 54 people self reported participating to the 
translate-a-thon ! Awesome !


I hope everybody enjoyed it.


If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"

1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic 
communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post 
information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or 
Arabic ...)... very tough


2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the 
query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really 
tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know 
that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query 
myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing 
something here


3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation 
feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird


Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information about 
the drive around.


Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies ;)

Florence


Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants


Results will be tracked on this page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

Hello

Since the launch of the translation effort, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmaa_Mahfouz went from 11 languages to 20 
! Nice !


We still need your help to give a bit more visibility on the web to 16 
African women.


Please join to help here or relay : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon?



Anthere

#16WikiWomen



Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants


Results will be tracked on this page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Olatunde Isaac]

Thanks for the clarification, Flo.

Best,

Isaac
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H


Needs a bit of process clarification here...

So here is what we did (I know it is not perfect, but we did within our 
constraints and own skills).


1. I created a category on the English Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_translation

I categorized the 16 articles from their talk page.
This category is simply a maintenance one (not used in the article 
mainspace)

In the future (asap I have the time...), I will rather create a template 
which will include the above category and replace the category in the 
talk page by the template. This will allow me to make the information 
prettier and more explicit (using a logo etc.).
But practically... the category is enough.



2. Sam (AfricanHope) wrote a bot : 
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:CivBot

The bot is updating this page to list articles per language : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/Table

It does not use all languages, but only languages listed on this table : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages

Where does that list come from ? Well... it includes all languages used 
at least once in one of the 16 biographies.

One thing the bot does NOT do is identify when a new language (not in 
the list above) is added.

I will have to figure that out on the way... it could certainly be 
automated... at the same time... we talk only of 16 articles to check. 
So... I may be lazy and just check once a day.

But if anyone knows a quick query that is able to tell me "which new 
language has been added as a new translation version on one of the 16 
articles, which is not in the current list"... feel free to contact me ;)



3) There were quite a few already existing articles in various 
languages. So I have done a quick review of the state of those articles 
at start. I summarize those state here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/status



4) The inclusion of the username on the meta page is not really to track 
participants. It is simply a human element, a place where we can meet 
and share and see which people are interested helping. It is more of a 
networking place if you want.



5) The complete list of participants is totally findable anytime Isaac.
I have not tried to do the query myself yet. It is essentially
* list of all usernames
* which edited those 16 biographies
* in any language (or the sublist above)
* between 20th of Feb and the 07 of March

We can even rank the result by "number of characters added" (in case we 
think quantity is a measure of involvement - which I am not fully sure).

Or we can rank the result by "number of biographies edited" by participants.



ANYONE WILLING TO HELP ON THIS ONE ? <--- get in touch

-

It is nice to consider a category or template to tag the talk page of 
each article in all language for "community building" reasons (as in 
"this article participated to the "16WikiWomen translation project"). 
Because it is simply cool for us together to remember what we did, when 
we did it, why we did it. It is cool to see who is interested. That's 
why we stick around doing the things we do. That's the HUMAN element.


But, when it comes to tracking...(to measure success), we do not need 
that category system to know who edited those articles...
Big brother ...


Anthere




Le 21/02/2017 à 00:56, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
> Hi Romaine,
>
> Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on 
> Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you 
> have correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is 
> different from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content 
> categories. We use it to track the number of articles created as part of a 
> project/contest as well as the number of participants.
>
> Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation 
> project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of 
> participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that 
> I'm a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be 
> considered as a routine contribution.
>
> Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen 
> organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

slator.

The two above illustrative categories have different scope.

Please, correct me if I am wrong.


Best,

Isaac
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From: Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:46:12
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Cc: Florence Devouard<anth...@anthere.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.

Romaine

2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac <reachout2is...@gmail.com>:


Hi Flo,

I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
part of 16 WikiWomen?

Best,

Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_
Translate-a-thon/participants

Results will be tracked on this page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Olatunde Isaac]

Hi Romaine,

Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on 
Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you have 
correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is different 
from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content categories. We use 
it to track the number of articles created as part of a project/contest as well 
as the number of participants. 

Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation 
project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of 
participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that I'm 
a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be 
considered as a routine contribution.

Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen 
organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translated and 
the number of participants, to measure the success of their project.

If there is something like "Category:16WikiWomen" for example, they could visit 
each language Wikipedia they listed on the project page and search for the 
category. This would show the number of articles translated and the translators 
(participants).

"Category:Women footballers" - to check for women footballers or number of 
women footballers. 

"Category:16WikiWomen" - to check for the number of articles translated or the 
number of translator.

The two above illustrative categories have different scope.

Please, correct me if I am wrong.


Best,

Isaac
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-Original Message-
From: Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:46:12 
To: <reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimedia Mailing 
List<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Florence Devouard<anth...@anthere.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.

Romaine

2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac <reachout2is...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Flo,
>
> I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
> part of 16 WikiWomen?
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Florence Devouard <fdevou...@gmail.com>
> Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52
> To: <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen
>
> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
>
> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> languages (African or international languages).
>
> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> Mandarin, German
> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> Chichewa
>
> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> initial version was in French
> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> rights activist
> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> Arabic
> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
> * Nassima Saifi, a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Romaine Wiki]

Why using a category?

Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A
category here seems useless.

The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in
various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories
can be filled with many articles about women in Africa.

Romaine

2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac <reachout2is...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Flo,
>
> I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as
> part of 16 WikiWomen?
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Florence Devouard <fdevou...@gmail.com>
> Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52
> To: <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen
>
> In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
> Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon
>
> The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
> Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
> languages (African or international languages).
>
> The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
> The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
> * International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
> Mandarin, German
> * African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
> Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
> Chichewa
>
> The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
> * Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
> * Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
> initial version was in French
> * Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
> * Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
> under-secretary-general of the United Nations
> * Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
> * Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
> * Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
> * Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
> * Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
> * Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
> rights activist
> * Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
> Arabic
> * Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
> * Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
> * Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
> * Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
> * Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria
>
> Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !
>
>
> If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
> comments here :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_
> Translate-a-thon/participants
>
> Results will be tracked on this page :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Olatunde Isaac]

Hi Flo,

I am curious, is there a category we could place articles translated as part of 
16 WikiWomen? 

Best,

Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:10:52 
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Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves 
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the 
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16 
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women. 
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, 
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu, 
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho, 
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best 
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former 
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human 
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in 
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any 
comments here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants

Results will be tracked on this page : 
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[Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves 
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the 
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16 
languages (African or international languages).


The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women. 
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, 
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu, 
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho, 
Chichewa


The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best 
initial version was in French

* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former 
under-secretary-general of the United Nations

* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human 
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in 
Arabic

* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any 
comments here : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants


Results will be tracked on this page : 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking





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