Re: [Wikimedia-l] On traceability and reliability of data we publish [was Re: [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata]

2018-07-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Roger / Alphos, On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Alphos OGame wrote: > Traceability of information does not pertain with who imported said > information on Wikidata. Could be an unregistered user, could be a bot, > could be a Wikimedian in residence or even the Pope himself, it doesn't >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On traceability and reliability of data we publish [was Re: [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata]

2018-07-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This same mail was send at the same time to the Wikidata mailing list.. The answer there is argued in a different way with an utterly different outcome.. This is an example of forum shopping and the result is that there is no single outcome, it is great example why forum shopping does not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On traceability and reliability of data we publish [was Re: [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata]

2018-07-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Mathieu! I agree that tracing the full history of a data cite is important, independent of license. I'm thinking about scalable solutions for this. It's definitely not the only factor in reliability; but it does matter who entered the data (for instance) as one way to estimate the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On traceability and reliability of data we publish [was Re: [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata]

2018-07-08 Thread Alphos OGame
Hello, You seem to be mistaken. Traceability of information does not pertain with who imported said information on Wikidata. Could be an unregistered user, could be a bot, could be a Wikimedian in residence or even the Pope himself, it doesn't make a difference in the world. What matters in

[Wikimedia-l] On traceability and reliability of data we publish [was Re: [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata]

2018-07-07 Thread mathieu lovato stumpf guntz
Hi Andra, I agree this is misconception that a copyright license make any direct change to data reliability. But attribution requirement does somewhat indirectly have an impact on it, as it legally enforce traceability. That is I strongly disagree with the following assertion: "a license