Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-07 Thread Milos Rancic
So Signpost discovered what is Something. (I didn't follow all the threads, but I suppose it's been written in some of them.) From my perspective and according to some anecdotal data I have, I would suggest WMF staff and C-level management to start talking with each other. I can confirm that at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2016-01-04 00:50, Theo10011 wrote: I'm not sure why we keep perpetuating this us vs them mentality. Whether its the action of singular staff member or the board or large decision by the executive, the end result is always the same and I'm not sure we are making any progress over the years.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread MZMcBride
Milos Rancic wrote: >My knowledge about Something is very obscure. From occasional >discussions with some of WMF employees, I know that "Something is >wrong". I am quite serious about that. I got impression that employees >are not content with the Board decisions during the recent years. >However,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Theo10011
Blind, impotent rage isn't helpful, neither are conjectures about the abstract and nebulous nature of "something". Let's try and remember, this is the same pattern as every other last time, most people commenting here are in agreement, this was wrong or at the least, this was handled poorly, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Milos Rancic
On Jan 3, 2016 09:56, "John Mark Vandenberg" wrote: > > Something is covered in NDAs. I heard quite general notes, that they couldn't be inside of NDAs. And they weren't personal, but related to the WMF and WMF leading position inside of the movement.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Pine W
John: I hope we can have an open discussion. (: I feel that NDAs may be making bad situations worse. There are good reasons to keep some things confidential, but I think that more openness and transparency would be helpful in regards to the WMF board in particular. Milos: thank you. Yesterday I

[Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Milos Rancic
We should start talking about Something. Something is the raising issue of our movement. Its properties are not yet known, but all of us feel the consequences of Something. To tackle the problem, we should define it, first. Yes, we know it's called Something, but besides the name, we know just a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Something is covered in NDAs. -- John ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Thyge
It seams that NDA could by anything (1). Which one is something? (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NDA Thyge 2016-01-03 10:02 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic : > On Jan 3, 2016 09:56, "John Mark Vandenberg" wrote: > > > > Something is covered in NDAs. > > I heard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
NDA = Non-Disclosure Agreement[1] (and while we're at it, the acronym IEP opaquely deployed by Pine in the other thread was the India Education Program[2]) A. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement [2]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Pharos
Let us have our movement new year's resolution be for an acronym-free 2016! Thanks, Pharos On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > NDA = Non-Disclosure Agreement[1] > > (and while we're at it, the acronym IEP opaquely deployed by Pine in the > other thread

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something

2016-01-03 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > NDA = Non-Disclosure Agreement[1] > > (and while we're at it, the acronym IEP opaquely deployed by Pine in the > other thread was the India Education Program[2]) > (my mistake: it was Kevin Gorman who used it, not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

2015-12-02 Thread Victor Grigas
In case anyone is interested, a commons version is available here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jimmy%27s_Eyes.webm On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > After the latest cup of coffee, I really miss Jimbo's eyes :-( > And honestly, they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

2015-12-02 Thread Ricordisamoa
After the latest cup of coffee, I really miss Jimbo's eyes :-( And honestly, they were not even annoying... Il 01/12/2015 16:50, Gregory Varnum ha scritto: Greetings, I have chatted with a number of folks over the years about ways to help promote the annual fundraising appeal - but in ways

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

2015-12-01 Thread Leila Zia
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Greetings, > > I have chatted with a number of folks over the years about ways to help > promote the annual fundraising appeal - but in ways that did not feel so > serious that it was out of our character to post

[Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

2015-12-01 Thread Gregory Varnum
Greetings, I have chatted with a number of folks over the years about ways to help promote the annual fundraising appeal - but in ways that did not feel so serious that it was out of our character to post on social media. Good news - it appears this year Jimmy has participated in a video that