Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-20 Thread Scott Davis
Agreed, I would happily use the Trove catalogue URL if the full text was linked from it, but it is harder if (as this example) the full text is available somewhere else. A reason to still use the catalogue entry as the primary URL is that it will likely persist longer than a URL provided by a

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-20 Thread Leigh Blackall
Nice workflow Kerry, I'll do that in future also. On 20 Jan 2018 16:46, "Gnangarra" wrote: agree with Kerry here the Trove link is more significant and proves more information. The Trove URL does take a person to the text, its a maintained link where as many third party

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-19 Thread Gnangarra
agree with Kerry here the Trove link is more significant and proves more information. The Trove URL does take a person to the text, its a maintained link where as many third party sites change their urls all to frequently, as is currently the case in WA with 40 odd departments being merged into

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-19 Thread Kerry Raymond
There’s 2 angles to this, the Trove angle and the WIkipedia angle. On the Wikipedia side, part of the problem is that it would be nice to be able to have a cite book/journal way to cite both the full text *and* the catalogue/metadata entry (that is, two fields for different purposes. I have

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-19 Thread Leigh Blackall
Seems reasonable to me, but if it's proving difficult to get Trove to update their citation formatting, then best to at least demonstrate it on the Wikipedia et al side of things. Is it possible to create a bot that goes back through all Trove references, check the URL and add the catelogue? Or to

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-19 Thread Liam Wyatt
There's quite a long list of improvements that could be made to the Wikipedia footnote format that Trove produces automatically. Many of them are already logged in their internal code-review system at the National Library but, due to internal prioritisation of the bug/feature queue this doesn't

[Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations

2018-01-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
I've been looking at fixing up some citations I wrote many years ago since I've found that the text of the book I referenced is now available online as well as having a Trove reference. Trove provides a Wikipedia citation of the form: {{Citation | author1=Aird, W. V | author2=Aird, W V |