Re: [Wikimediaau-l] (no subject)

2010-08-16 Thread Confusing Manifestation
The reference to Julian Assange suggests that the poster is looking
for Wikileaks - which is in no way associated with either Wikimedia
Australia or the Wikimedia Foundation. I presume the best way to
submit documents to Wikileaks is to go to Wikileaks (.org, in fact)
and click on the great big link marked Submit documents.

CM

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 I think you will find that it is spam.
 -peachey

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[Wikimediaau-l] Should we petition the pollies on copyright law?

2010-02-18 Thread Confusing Manifestation
Since the Ideascale site is now closed, I'll post my latest big idea here:

One of the biggest gripes that Wikimedians and other open content
fans have had in recent years is the issue of claiming copyright over
retouched and/or digitised versions of public domain content. Since we
would probably not want to determine the copyright status of such
items via an NPG-style lawsuit, should we be engaging with politicians
to develop clearer copyright laws?

Obviously this would require further conversation with the GLAM
sector, who would generally be on the side of having such things be
copyrightable, but at least if the copyright status of digitised
replicas of PD works was legislatively determined then we would all
know where we stood with the law rather than the iffy case of We
claim it's PD but if it came to court the judge could swing the other
way we have now.

CM

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[Wikimediaau-l] ABS CC survey

2009-12-25 Thread Confusing Manifestation
Apparently, it's been 1 year since the Australian Bureau of Statistics
applied the Creative Commons license to all of its online content, and
now they'd like to find out who's been making use of it.

There's a survey on their website, so if anyone here has, for example,
incorporated ABS data into a WP article or something under the CC
license, it's worth giving it a look. Someone might want to pass this
on to the CC-AU people, too.

http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3310114.nsf/4a256353001af3ed4b2562bb00121564/8b2bdbc1d45a10b1ca25751d000d9b03?opendocument?utm_id=HPI
http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3310114.nsf/home/creative%20commons%20survey

Cheers,

CM

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Friday March 20 Canberra brunch

2009-03-11 Thread Confusing Manifestation
As for a venue, I've heard good things about Milk and Honey
(http://www.milkandhoney.net/milkandhoney/). I do apologise for being
the one responsible for such an unsightly meeting time, but I'm
actually going to Sydney that afternoon.

I'm also excited to hear about contacts with these other organisations
- a great leap forward for WMAu.

Also, on the convention front, after this little shindig I will email
the Canberra Convention Bureau who have said that they will start
scouting venues for us, since I will not be able to meet with them
directly for the two weeks I am out of state.

CM
SUL: [[User:ConMan]], not [[User:Confusing manifestations]] :P

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/03/2009, at 0:02, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 On March 20th Liam and I will both be in Canberra, meeting with lots
 of interesting folk from interesting orgs (thanks to Liam's
 interesting rolodex). One of our meetings will be a brunch around 9am.
 We would really like to meet up with local editors who are interested
 in helping make a wiki conf in Canberra around November happen. (See
 http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/AusWikiConf_2009 for some background)

 If you are not too interested in that but still want to meet up,
 that's cool too. :) Please email me offlist so we can swap contact
 info and such for when a venue is set.

 thanks!
 Brianna

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 They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
 http://modernthings.org/

 Personally, I wouldn't call a 9am meeting bruch so much as
 breakfast :-) but that's the way it has worked out - this is the
 only available time when we are all in the same place.

 It would be really good to meet Canberrans whether they are interested
 in helping our with a wiki conf and/or members of the chapter or
 neither. We will be meeting in a cafe (as yet to be determined by
 [[user:confusing manifestations]] ) in the City district at 9am on
 Friday week. Please come along if you can!

 For those who are interested to know, over the course of that Thursday
 and Friday we have arranged meetings with directors from: the National
 Gallery; the Australian War Memorial; the National Library (twice) and
 the Australian institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
 Studies (AIATSIS). Other insitiutions will be joining us such as the
 Australian Digital Alliance.

 The purpose of these meeting quite loose. Simply put, these
 institutions have had ad hoc dealings with wiki•edians, from a
 variety of people, across a range of issues, for several years. We are
 going to fly the flag and answer their questions and see where
 discussion takes us. From their point if view, just being able to put
 a face to this vast thing called wiki will be important.

 If you have specific questions that would like us to pose to these
 institutions please contact either Brianna, myself or the Wikipedia
 Australia committee.

 All the best,
 -Liam
 [[witty lama]]


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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Innovative Ideas forum - National Library

2009-02-18 Thread Confusing Manifestation
Not 100% sure yet. I'm flying up from Sydney on Tuesday 24th, I think
I'm booked in for lunch on the 25th, my cousin's getting married on
the 28th (the reason for the trip, obviously) and I'm not 100% sure
when I fly out. And, since it's a wedding, there will probably be
other family-related things going on. However, I will keep you posted.

CM

2009/2/18 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com:
 You'll be in Perth that sounds like a good excuse for organising a meetup,
 do you have any time available?

 2009/2/17 Confusing Manifestation confusingmanifestat...@gmail.com

 Oh great ...

 Seeing as I'll be in Perth that weekend, anyone else like to go?

 CM

 2009/2/17 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
  For anyone who will be in Canberra on the last weekend of March, the
  National Library of Australia will be hosting their Innovative Ideas
  Forum
  on the topic of the Value of Social Networking for Cultural
  Institutions
  on Friday the 28th.
 
  There will be several speakers of renown and some really cool projects
  discussed (such as the Australian Newspaper digitisation project).
  However,
  this is already fully booked. You can add your name to the waiting list
  if
  you want. They do not advertise this widely and it is by word of mouth
  that
  people find out about it.
 
  I don't know how many from the waiting list will get a spot, but you can
  always give it a go.
  http://www.nla.gov.au/initiatives/meetings/innovative-ideas-forum/2009/
 
  All the best,
  -Liam [[user:witty lama]]
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] 2008-11-09 ctte meeting minutes

2008-11-13 Thread Confusing Manifestation
This is what I was trying to get at. Hence why I said that the
organisations who we'd work with wouldn't necessarily be donors (and
probably often wouldn't, since then there wouldn't *be* any mixing of
money and editing). And let's put it this way - would you rather us
having a section on an article's talk page that says These people
gave WMAu members this information, and these sources, which we've
used to fix up this part of the article, or read another article in
the newspapers that says A leak from such-and-such says that this
organisation was paying RANDOM PERSON to clear out the bad press in
their Wikipedia article? Of course I recognise that any organisation
is going to want to turn their article into free advertising, but the
trick will be to make sure that they are made aware, right at the
beginning, that they will have zero control over the final content of
the article, but hopefully a few of them will be smart enough to
realise that there can still be a net benefit for them even if half of
the article is critical of them.

CM

2008/11/13 Liam Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Wow - that's one damn long sentence! :-)
 I agree entirely - this is what I was getting at with the idea of the
 backstage tour. An organisation shows members of WM-Au around some part
  of its facilities that are not normally accessible and we then donate some
 time to improving their article (and teaching them how to improve articles
 on the topic that that organisation knows about). This would be a really
 tangible benefit of WM-Au membership.
 To respond to Andrew Garrett's concern Money and articles don't mix - this
 does not mean give us money and we will improve your article. Rather,
 those organisations that are interested in working with us (whether they are
 donors *or not*) can share their expertise and we share our expertise back -
 a win win. It is just more than likely that the organisation that wants to
 be a member is the same kind of organisation that wants to give us a
 backstage tour.
 Under no circumstances would it be a situation where they pay to have access
 to our editing abilities/time.
 -Liam

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