[Wikimediaau-l] wikimedia.org.au down?

2014-11-18 Thread Russavia
I am wanting to show a prominent photographer whose work we host on Commons
and use widely across Wikipedia projects information on the camera
equipment grants, but it would appear that wikimedia.org.au is down, and
has been for at least the last 12 hours.

I don't want to show them the information that we need so that I can help
them apply for the grant via Google cache; that would be embarrassing.

Can we get an update on when the site will be available again please.

Thanks.

Russavia

P.S. It would appear I am on moderation on this list, it's about time that
this moderation is removed so that I can freely engage in discussion and
not have to rely on David Gerard approving messages, thereby delaying
things that will become timely in the near future if things I am working on
come to fruition.
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] CSIRO ScienceImage library now cc-by

2014-08-25 Thread Russavia
Why not ask Fae to do it, he's a pro at stuff like this. I'll leave it up
to you guys to reach out to him.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Peter / Liam,
 Did anyone make progress on this?  I've finally had a look at some of the
 images, and we *definitely* want them on Commons.  If nobody finds anything
 easier, I suppose I can start putting together a scraping script (but this
 may take me months at the rate I accumulate spare time).
 Toby


 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Peter, that would be great if you would use your inside-contacts.
 Much quicker and also probably more effective than a cold-call!
 Ideally they could pro-actively give us a bulk dump with the metadata
 that they specifically wish - it gives them a greater sense of having
 contributed to Wikimedia rather than just 'allowing' us to scrape the
 website. The other thing is that the videos would all need mp4 - ogv
 conversion. This is not technically hard, but it is annoying.
 Perhaps you could see if there's someone you know inside the organisation
 who was responsible for that website who could help?

 Sincerely,
 -Liam

 wittylama.com
 Peace, love  metadata


 On 7 May 2014 09:39, Peter Ansell ansell.pe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Liam,

 I am currently working at CSIRO if that helps. Probably quickest to
 try getting in contact using the details at:

 http://www.scienceimage.csiro.au/pages/contact/

 If that doesn't work I will contact my local PR person to see what we
 can do to get a bulk dump somehow.

 Cheers,

 Peter

 On 6 May 2014 10:24, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello Australian and GLAMtools lists,
  I read today on the Creative Commons Australia blog that CSIRIO's
  ScienceImage library has been re-licensed to CC-BY:
 
 http://creativecommons.org.au/blog/2014/04/csiro-releases-scienceimage-archive-4000-cc-by-photos-free-for-reuse/
  [for non-Australians CSIRO is our national science/research institute].
 
  This is a fabulous series of images, nearly all of which are useful in
 WP
  articles as they are taken for 'scientific' purposes which means they
 are
  easily usable as educational images. Take a look:
 
  http://www.scienceimage.csiro.au/
 
  There's also over 500 documentary video files
 
 http://www.scienceimage.csiro.au/search/?tags=keyword=library=assettype=videorgb=deviation=30page=1
 
  Here are the subject areas they've divided things up into:
 
  Animals birds fish marine life sheep
  Buildings laboratories radio telescopes
  Food fruits vegetables seafood
  Insects arachnids moths termites
  Landscapes deserts farms mountains
  People In the lab in the field
  Plants crops flowers trees
  Soil Science erosion mining soils
  Technology computers  computer equipment
  Textile wool and woollen products
  Transportation boats
  Equipment industrial equipment laboratories
  Fire bushfire fire management
  Water irrigation lakes rivers
 
  Could someone on the GLAMWikiToolset users see if you can neatly
 extract
  these files to mass upload them to Commons? Equally, we could try to
 contact
  CSIRO directly?
 
  -Liam
 
  wittylama.com
  Peace, love  metadata
 
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[Wikimediaau-l] Freopedia map

2014-07-07 Thread Russavia
Hi all,

Could we please get some further information on the Freopedia map[1] from
the Committee of WMAU, or those involved in Freopedia.

I would like to upload this map to Commons, and although I can see the
Freopedia and Wikimedia Australia logos on the map, I can't find any
licencing information.

Information appreciated.

Cheers,

Russavia

[1] https://archive.org/details/FreopediaTouristMap
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[Wikimediaau-l] Wiki Loves Monuments

2014-05-17 Thread Russavia
Hi all,

Does anyone know if there is going to be an Australian edition of Wiki
Loves Monuments this year?

The page is up on Commons,[1] but there's nothing there showing an
Australian presence.

Having an Aussie edition of the comp as a precursor, if there is still
interest, in having a war memorials competition in the lead up to
Anzac Day in 2015.

Anyway, just wanting to put it out there that WLM is open and seeing
if there is any interest in it.

Cheers,

Russavia


[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014

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[Wikimediaau-l] Australian Aid relicences under CC-BY

2014-04-14 Thread Russavia
Hi all,

Following a request by myself, Australian Aid (under the Department of
Foreign Affairs and Trade) today relicenced their Flickr stream from (C)
All Rights Reserved to CC-BY.

Their stream can be found at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dfataustralianaid/

Their photos on Commons will be found at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_from_the_Department_of_Foreign_Affairs_and_Trade

These photos are not only useful for showing the work of Australian Aid,
especially in the Asia/Pacific region, but also for our bilateral
relationships with other nations (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bilateral_relations_of_Australia),
and those nations themselves.

If anyone would like to help to categorise these images, I have set up a
temporary holding category at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_uploaded_by_Russavia_(DFAT)--
if categorising be sure to add the relevant bilateral relations
category
to the image (or create it if we don't already have) and remove the
temporary category from the image, whilst leaving in place
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_uploaded_by_Russavia(this
is my image upload tracking category).

I do ask that anything relating to aviation not have the temporary category
removed as I will have further categorisation relating to aviation to do on
those images.

I am indefinitely blocked on English Wikipedia, so I am not able to alert
relevant WikiProjects (of which there are a few) as to the existence of
these now freely licenced images, nor am I able to get images into use on
that project, so this is going to be left up to others; but I would gander
a guess that somewhere between 5-15% of images could be put into immediate
use on en.wp, with other images which could be used to support creation of
new content on that project possibly being in the 5-10% range.

Cheers

Russavia
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-17 Thread Russavia
Moving on, and bringing it back to what is important, Steven, can you
please address the questions which have been asked of you.

Cheers

Scotty


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Steven Zhang steven.zh...@wikimedia.org.au
 wrote:

 Hi all,



 Just to confirm, this was a deliberate removal and not a technical error.
 Two brief points here:



 1. This was not a unilateral action that I took - it was a discussion that
 the committee had in its January meeting, and decided on as a whole, in
 addition to being a decision that was made between another list
 administrator and myself. WMF staff have also been consulted and had no
 issues with the action taken.


 2. We welcome discussion about the organisation, and having differing
 opinions is perfectly fine, but actively disrupting the list is against
 both the rules and spirit of the list, and always has been. The former
 member concerned has engaged in repeated personal attacks on a number of
 individuals, and it had reached a point where we were receiving complaints
 from members, along with other members resigning from the organisation due
 to the conduct on the mailing list.



 This list amongst other things is intended for use as a method for
 Australian community members (including but not limited to Wikimedia
 Australia members) to collaborate and communicate. In practice most of that
 has been regarding activities of the chapter. In order for it to be used
 for those purposes, it needs to be a safe and constructive space. Admin
 action was taken only to ensure that this continued to be the case.



 As always, the committee encourages feedback and input wherever possible
 if it can be of benefit to the organisation, and if you as members have any
 questions or concerns we encourage you to discuss them with us. As an
 organisation over the past few years we have too often engaged in conflict
 with each other rather than work with each other, and it's something that
 we as a committee hope to change.



 Regards,

 --
 Steven Zhang
 President - Wikimedia Australia
 steven.zh...@wikimedia.org.au

 On 16 March 2014 18:45, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Sam Wilson s...@samwilson.id.au wrote:
  Yeah, Hanlon's razor perhaps should be remembered here! :-) Not that I
 mean
  to imply any incompetence on the part of the list administrators, but I
 do
  imagine that it's more likely that someone's made a mistake here and is
 not
  being actively mean.

 Unfortunately Tony's allegations are spot on.

 For background, Nathan Carter handed over the list admin to me in
 January 2013 when he needed to shift his load around.  I added Charles
 Gregory as list admin in October 2013.  Without consultation with me,
 Steven Zhang was added as list admin.  I dont know when.  Charles, did
 you add Steven as list admin, or was the WMF involved in that?

 I've quickly spoken with Steven about Tony being put on the kill list,
 and received confirmation both him and from Charles.  They acted as a
 majority of list admins, without informing me, but with approval from
 the Wikimedia Australia committee and after discussion with a
 Wikimedia Foundation staff member.  It seems it happened in January,
 in response to the emails Tony sent to the list in that month:

 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/2014-January/003979.html
 Steven Zhang was the person responsible for performing the kill list
 addition.

 I dont think that Tony's emails warranted this type of response.
 Putting a respected member of our community on a kill list will
 neither be particularly successful at silencing criticism, nor is the
 kill list the appropriate tool - moderation would have been the tool
 to use if Tony was being disruptive, and direct private discussion
 between Tony and moderators didn't result in a better path forward.

 Typically the kill list is used for spammers and people who are banned
 from Wikimedia projects and are being disruptive on the mailing lists.
  That does not apply to Tony.

 It is rude to take these types of moderator actions without informing
 the person involved, and informing other list admins even after the
 fact if the action needed to be taken quickly to maintain decorum on
 the list.

 Steven and Charles are a bit vague on the details of how this
 happened, so it is possible that not everyone who was consulted did
 actually agree to Tony being put on a kill list, and I hope most of
 them had envisaged that it was going to be implemented with with
 utmost care for a volunteer that they strive to serve and support.  I
 hope the WMAU committee will give a more detailed explanation of their
 involvement in this.  To everyone who did knowingly agree to Tony
 being put on a kill list: whether for incompetence, bad communication,
 or some other excuse - I dont care why - you _should_ be ashamed of
 yourselves.

 This is a good time to have someone else, outside of the current
 committee, step up to be list 

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-17 Thread Russavia
Actually, he hasn't answered ANY questions that have been asked of him,
either by myself, nor by Tony.

His killing Tony's subscription because Tony has valid questions in
relation to Andrew Owens' position on the Committee seems like a bit of a
cover up, and a stupid attempt to silence a person who has valid concerns.

I would suggest that at least those questions are answered, or I will
contact the relevant regulatory authorities myself and lodge an official
complaint.

Scotty


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steven's answer looked complete and apposite to me.



 On 17 March 2014 12:49, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
  Moving on, and bringing it back to what is important, Steven, can you
 please
  address the questions which have been asked of you.
 
  Cheers
 
  Scotty
 
 
  On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Steven Zhang
  steven.zh...@wikimedia.org.au wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
 
 
  Just to confirm, this was a deliberate removal and not a technical
 error.
  Two brief points here:
 
 
 
  1. This was not a unilateral action that I took - it was a discussion
 that
  the committee had in its January meeting, and decided on as a whole, in
  addition to being a decision that was made between another list
  administrator and myself. WMF staff have also been consulted and had no
  issues with the action taken.
 
 
  2. We welcome discussion about the organisation, and having differing
  opinions is perfectly fine, but actively disrupting the list is against
 both
  the rules and spirit of the list, and always has been. The former member
  concerned has engaged in repeated personal attacks on a number of
  individuals, and it had reached a point where we were receiving
 complaints
  from members, along with other members resigning from the organisation
 due
  to the conduct on the mailing list.
 
 
 
  This list amongst other things is intended for use as a method for
  Australian community members (including but not limited to Wikimedia
  Australia members) to collaborate and communicate. In practice most of
 that
  has been regarding activities of the chapter. In order for it to be
 used for
  those purposes, it needs to be a safe and constructive space. Admin
 action
  was taken only to ensure that this continued to be the case.
 
 
 
  As always, the committee encourages feedback and input wherever possible
  if it can be of benefit to the organisation, and if you as members have
 any
  questions or concerns we encourage you to discuss them with us. As an
  organisation over the past few years we have too often engaged in
 conflict
  with each other rather than work with each other, and it's something
 that we
  as a committee hope to change.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  --
  Steven Zhang
  President - Wikimedia Australia
  steven.zh...@wikimedia.org.au
 
  On 16 March 2014 18:45, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Sam Wilson s...@samwilson.id.au
 wrote:
   Yeah, Hanlon's razor perhaps should be remembered here! :-) Not that
 I
   mean
   to imply any incompetence on the part of the list administrators,
 but I
   do
   imagine that it's more likely that someone's made a mistake here and
 is
   not
   being actively mean.
 
  Unfortunately Tony's allegations are spot on.
 
  For background, Nathan Carter handed over the list admin to me in
  January 2013 when he needed to shift his load around.  I added Charles
  Gregory as list admin in October 2013.  Without consultation with me,
  Steven Zhang was added as list admin.  I dont know when.  Charles, did
  you add Steven as list admin, or was the WMF involved in that?
 
  I've quickly spoken with Steven about Tony being put on the kill list,
  and received confirmation both him and from Charles.  They acted as a
  majority of list admins, without informing me, but with approval from
  the Wikimedia Australia committee and after discussion with a
  Wikimedia Foundation staff member.  It seems it happened in January,
  in response to the emails Tony sent to the list in that month:
 
 
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/2014-January/003979.html
  Steven Zhang was the person responsible for performing the kill list
  addition.
 
  I dont think that Tony's emails warranted this type of response.
  Putting a respected member of our community on a kill list will
  neither be particularly successful at silencing criticism, nor is the
  kill list the appropriate tool - moderation would have been the tool
  to use if Tony was being disruptive, and direct private discussion
  between Tony and moderators didn't result in a better path forward.
 
  Typically the kill list is used for spammers and people who are banned
  from Wikimedia projects and are being disruptive on the mailing lists.
   That does not apply to Tony.
 
  It is rude to take these types of moderator actions without informing
  the person involved, and informing other list admins even after

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Drama

2014-03-16 Thread Russavia
Craig,

Can you possibly explain how John doing the RIGHT thing would be a wheel
war.

If we were to apply on-wiki rules here, John undoing Steven's action would
be normal practice. If Zhang were to come along and undo John's action,
then this would be wheel warring.

The exception to this is if Zhang were to do an admin action under
authority of Arbcom, and John came along and undid. That would be wheel
warring.

Of course, you being an admin would know this, so I am unsure why you are
totally misinterpreting what a wheel war is. God help anyone on en.wp who
might come across your use of the tools if your lax understanding of basic
concepts is like this in actual practice.

No-one gave the WMAU committee authority over this list, and I expect
Steven Zhang to answer the questions which have been raised of him. I would
also expect, if he expects to remain an admin of this list, to undo the
kill himself.

This is an absolute disgrace that dissenting voices within this community
are silenced, and that this silencing is done with the blessing (or at
least the silence) of some in the community.

This type of rubbish is what actually brings this community and our
projects into disrepute.

Scotty



On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Craig Franklin
cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote:

 On 16 March 2014 19:18, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:


 John, given that you were not involved in this and you have integrity,
 would you care to undo what Steven and Charles done to Tony.

 Cheers

 Scotty


 I trust that John has the good sense not to do the mailing list equivalent
 of getting involved in a wheel war.

 Cheers,
 Craig

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[Wikimediaau-l] Jetstar relicences photos under CC-BY-SA

2014-03-16 Thread Russavia
Hey all,

I have been quite active in recent months in getting photos on Flickr
relicenced, and have been quite successful in this. Aside from individual
photographers, some of the organisations which have relicenced their photos
after my request include Maersk Line, Austrian Airlines, Bahrain
International Airport, Brussels Airport, Ecuadorian Ministry of Foreign
Affairs, Uri Tours (North Korean tour agency), amongst others. These photos
are now on Wikimedia Commons.

This morning, after months of persistence (using their words), Jetstar
Airways, the Qantas low-cost subsidiary, kindly relicenced their photos on
their Flickr stream at https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetstarairways/ from
CC-BY-NC-SA to CC-BY-SA, thereby allowing the usage of their photos on
Wikimedia projects. The airline has also changed its default licence so
that future Flickr uploads will be CC-BY-SA.

I have taken the liberty of uploading their stream to Wikimedia Commons and
their photos are now available at
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Jetstar_Airways.
There will, of course, be a lot of categorisation work and cleanup to be
done on these images, which I will be getting done.

I wanted to take this opportunity to publicly thank Jetstar for relicencing
their photos and in turn supporting the free culture movement.

Cheers

Scotty
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-15 Thread Russavia
Stephen, Charles and John,

This obviously needs to be answered. If Tony has had his subscription
cancelled/killed as he claims, this is a serious issue.

As much as I think Tony is an a-grade twit, he has every right to his
opinions on matters which relate to Wikimedia in Australia, no matter how
much we disagree with them.

I don't see John or Charles doing this, and I hope I am right in that, so
it could only be Stephen Zhang as supposed by Tony. I hope I am wrong in
this assertion, and am willing to be corrected on anything I am writing
here.

But Stephen, if this is correct, this is not only going to have
ramifications for you as President of WMAU, but it is seriously going to
affect your desire to become an admin on English Wikipedia, which is
something that we all know you greatly desire. To have someone who is
willing to use such a hammer on someone they disagree with as has occurred
here, can not and should not be trusted with any tools on any project in
which they have the ability to block editors. And I am sure that this will
be referenced in any such request for adminship.

This is an absolute disgrace, and some explanation is going to be required
from those who have the ability to make such actions on this list.

Cheers

Scotty








On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM, to...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Dear subscribers

 I realised in early March that I'd been receiving no automatic email
 notifications from this public mailing list for some time. Curious, I made
 a post; it didn't get through. Then I went to the subscribe page and tried
 to join using my existing address, thinking there'd been some technical
 glitch that had unsubscribed me. Nope: every attempt to subscribe using the
 same email failed. I tried my alternate email, and that failed too. When a
 friend did it for me at a remote location, the alternate email was
 subscribed immediately. It is under that alternate address that I'm now
 posting.

 Through the marvel of human intuition, I think I've worked out that one of
 the three administrators, Steven Zhang, has placed my long-standing
 subscription on what is known as a kill list. I was never informed, and I
 can't imagine either Charles Gregory or John Vandenberg - the other two
 administrators - would have agreed to this undercover banning. I believe
 that both consulting the other administrators and informing the person
 being banned are standard protocol.

 I remind subscribers that the chapter doesn't own this mailing list: the
 WMF does. And I should also point out that under the by-laws I'm still a
 member of the chapter.

 I'd like an explanation.

 Tony Souter

 Normal email address: to...@iinet.net.au

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Minutes of committee meetings and other queries

2014-01-25 Thread Russavia
Do we have a secretary now that you can hand it into.please.


On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Tony Souter to...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Dear Andrew

 I am still a member because there was legally no secretary to receive my
 written resignation, as you correctly point out is required by Rule 6(1).

 Let's fast reverse for a moment: Charles resigned in writing as
 secretary several days *after* Graham was, somehow, appointed to the
 position, presumably using the casual vacancy rule—but there was no
 vacancy, so the appointment was invalid. I pointed out the problems at the
 time and was ignored—the fact that I was ignored is quite explicit in the
 minutes of the meeting during which everyone decided to appoint themselves
 into different office-bearing positions.


 http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_(2013-03-17)#Committee_reshuffle

 While we're on this matter, *Action:* Steven agreed to write up a formal
 re-shuffle motion, as per the email. – I see no evidence in subsequent
 minutes of such a a formal re-shuffle motion.

 It's as simple as that.

 You say: the committee will not be responding to your correspondence
 dated 25 January 2014; but you *have* responded. The failure to address
 my specific points might prompt members to wonder about several critical
 issues. Forgive me for being old-fashioned, but I'm rather fussy about
 adherence to rules and laws.

 Kind regards

 Tony



 On 25/01/2014, at 8:11 PM, Andrew Owens orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Tony,

 On 1 October 2013, you resigned your membership per Rule 6(1) of the
 Association in writing, via a post to the chapter's lists. It is also on
 record that this resignation was accepted at the time. As such, you are not
 a member under the chapter's rules.

 As a consequence, the committee will not be responding to your
 correspondence dated 25 January 2014, and notes only that it contains
 several misunderstandings and errors of fact, some of which can be easily
 corrected with material already on the record, including reports submitted
 to the last AGM and the full text of the Associations Incorporation Reform
 Act 2012.

 Regards

 Andrew Owens
 Secretary
 Wikimedia Australia


 On 25 January 2014 13:17, Tony Souter to...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Dear members

 Since under the chapter's rules I'm still a member of WMAU until 30
 June—at which time no membership will be revewable for anyone under the
 rules, I'm sorry to say—may I ask whether the minutes of today's
 committee meeting will be posted promptly, unlike last time?

 Looking at the minutes of the most recent meeting (by the way, pretty
 short on links for members to navigate to referents), I see 12 red ACTION
 statements; only one of them is followed by a note that the action was
 taken:

 ACTION: Steven to advise Adam.
 (*Update: Actioned 25 November - committee members CC'd on email.*)
 Although it doesn't say whether the action succeeded in terms of the
 resolution.


 A sample of the other 11 is below, together with a few other queries.

 __

 *ACTION: All to update COI register.

 Nope:


 http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Conflict_of_interest_policyaction=history

 __

 *Update of records with CAV and the ACNC

- Steven advised that everyone had sent through the necessary
details. Email issues have hampered the ACNC matter; Steven is sending
Andrew the form via express post.
- The rule changes have not been sent to CAV from the SGM. If it goes
beyond 26 November, the lodgment fee increases from $75.20 to $160.50.
- ACTION: Steven to email Andrew the form; Andrew to file it with CAV
on Tuesday.


 Even if the rule changes were sent to CAV by 26 November, saving the
 chapter half the fee, it ignores the fact that the law (not the rules, the
 law) was breached by not communicating the change within a month of the SGM
 that approved the changes. I believe there's a fine for that breach, but
 would need to check the Act to confirm this.

 __

 *A7 Past resolutions

- ACTION: Andrew to sort out past resolutions for posting to the
public wiki.


 This cake looks worryingly half-baked:

 (add 2013-14, note out of date (will fill this in over coming week)

 http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Resolutionsaction=history


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 **C4 Linkage project *

 there are questions as to its fit with our Statement of Purpose—I don't
 see an argument anywhere supporting this claim. Like the CAV's answers to
 questions by one committee member about compliance, the answers depend on
 how those questions are framed. Presumably the previous committee thought
 the project fit with the SoP.

 The current spending is authorised by a resolution of the previous
 committee, but we have the option to rescind this. But one of the problems
 in squibbing on this funding is that the chapter signed a *contract*with the 
 other parties. Why sign a binding contract if you're going to
 

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Meeting today..?

2014-01-22 Thread Russavia
It's coming through all ok, I guess you are just being ignored. This is not
good enough.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote:

 anyone?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhiCFdWeQfA

 (could anyone receiving this just flick me a quick hello to confirm that
 the problem isn't the nut behind the keyboard this end...)

 best,

 Peter.
 PM.


 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote:

 ping :-)

 Just wondering if I sent this ok?

 best,

 Peter,
 PM.


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote:

 hi folks,

 any news on minutes and the IRC log?

 best,

 Peter.
 PM.


 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi John,

 The minutes of the previous committee meeting are still forthcoming,
 and as Andrew has previously mentioned he has been unwell. We have not had
 our committee meeting this month to accept the minutes from the December
 meeting. Once this is done, they will be posted to the public wiki as is
 customary.

 I had a log of the meeting but it seems my IRC client creates it in a
 way so that converting it to text is impossible. I believe others may have
 a log and once I locate this it will be posted.

 Thanks for your patience.

 Steven Zhang

 On 12 Jan 2014, at 4:58 pm, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 They havent been posted Steven. :(
 On Jan 12, 2014 9:27 AM, Steve Zhang steven.zh...@wikimedia.org.au
 wrote:

 Hi John,

 I believe the minutes are in the process of being finalized today and
 we have a copy of the irc log to post. It will be going ahead as planned
 today at 4pm AEDST.

 Steve
 On 12/01/2014 1:15 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are at least two items the committee should be attending to
 before the meeting today.

 The IRC log from the last public meeting should be published.

 The minutes from the last committee meeting should be published.

 fwiw, I am an apology for the meeting today, due to a prior commitment
 of being facilitator at a Wikidata workshop being here in Jakarta.

 --
 John Vandenberg

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