Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
2009/1/29 YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com: I did use YellowMonkey I just didn't say my roles are. Casliber and Chuq did the same Yes, I saw that :-) You all did fine IMO. - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
2009/1/28 YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/28/2476045.htm I went on the attack in the forum, although I didn't declare who I was I suggest, in general, be open about who you are and what you do. (I comment frequently on blog posts about Wikipedia with my name and speaking in terms of us, adding that I'm an en:wp editor/administrator and/or WMF volunteer media contact as appropriate.) Same as we'd expect of involved people commenting on a Wikipedia article talk page. - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
I did use YellowMonkey I just didn't say my roles are. Casliber and Chuq did the same On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:47 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/28 YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/28/2476045.htm I went on the attack in the forum, although I didn't declare who I was I suggest, in general, be open about who you are and what you do. (I comment frequently on blog posts about Wikipedia with my name and speaking in terms of us, adding that I'm an en:wp editor/administrator and/or WMF volunteer media contact as appropriate.) Same as we'd expect of involved people commenting on a Wikipedia article talk page. - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Also funny - the comparison between vandalism of WP bios and celebs having their twitter myspace accounts hacked. Not quite the same thing. Brianna That is crazy! And that was a Uni professor who said that of course, they may have been misquoted in a similar way that you/Andrew were. Regards, Charles ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
Here is tha transcript link http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2475604.htm and the mp3 link http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/pm/200901/20090127-PM5-wiki-vandals.mp3 to the program (apologies if it has already been posted) Paul 2009/1/27 Charles Gregory wikimediaau.li...@chuq.net: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Also funny - the comparison between vandalism of WP bios and celebs having their twitter myspace accounts hacked. Not quite the same thing. Brianna That is crazy! And that was a Uni professor who said that of course, they may have been misquoted in a similar way that you/Andrew were. Regards, Charles ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Peter Halasz qub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. How do copyrights work on interviews? Does the interviewee have joint copyright? And more specifically, are we able to place any interviews with Wikimedia members under a Creative Commons license (with the interviewee's permission)? Or does a joint copyright need to be a precondition of the interview? Generally it is the publisher who holds copyright and not the interviewee. Might be worth looking into for future. I know Free Culture advocates often place their interviews under CC, but I'm not sure of the logistics/legal details of it. I think we could look at a dual-copyright agreement for any interviews with WMA. Cheers, Nathan ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
Hi, I just did a bit of an interview with Rachael Brown for the ABC radio show 'PM'. Apparently it is on twice an evening: Radio National 5.10pm, and ABC local (774 in Melbourne) at 6.10pm. Here's hoping it sounds OK, if someone could make a digital recording somehow that would be ace :) cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
So what is WM-au position on flagged revisions? 2009/1/27 YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com The 6.10 screening is on all ABC local radios and the chats are always on teh ABC website on podcast or whatever On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just did a bit of an interview with Rachael Brown for the ABC radio show 'PM'. Apparently it is on twice an evening: Radio National 5.10pm, and ABC local (774 in Melbourne) at 6.10pm. Here's hoping it sounds OK, if someone could make a digital recording somehow that would be ace :) cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
The 6.10 screening is on all ABC local radiosthat'll be something to see then!! 2009/1/27 YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com The 6.10 screening is on all ABC local radios and the chats are always on teh ABC website on podcast or whatever On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just did a bit of an interview with Rachael Brown for the ABC radio show 'PM'. Apparently it is on twice an evening: Radio National 5.10pm, and ABC local (774 in Melbourne) at 6.10pm. Here's hoping it sounds OK, if someone could make a digital recording somehow that would be ace :) cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Well, Art is Art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now you tell me what you know. -- Groucho Marx ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
2009/1/27 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com: So what is WM-au position on flagged revisions? There is no WMAU position on flagged revisions (FR). Did you notice one? I don't think anybody too much cares about WMAU's position on anything just yet. :) It was more a here is a local expert angle (and yes I am far from an expert, but compared to people who aren't involved I might look like one, and I am undeniably local :)). AFAIK there is no WMF position on it either. It is a matter for the community to decide. She asked about the vandalism, which prompted Jimmy's call, and I gave some basic info about what the proposal involves and how it would work, and mentioned that dewp and others have been running it for a number of months. I also mentioned the argument that Jimmy has made, that you can interpret it as a move towards greater openness because it would mean less reliance on protection and semi-protection for BLPs. Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
NewsRadio is reporting the issue now. WikiPedia Australia's President Brianna was sound quoted the most. Andrew's negative sound quote was also used. Prof. Julian Thomas of Swinburne Uni was also sound quoted. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
Eek, yes I heard it online via Sydney local radio. I was quoted verbatim but they used the second half of my quote, meaning that the part where I said that BLP was the biggest challenge to the encyclopaedia at present and that this was agreed by most, and that a solution was required, but the question was over the technical merits of this particular proposal. 2009/1/27 Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com NewsRadio is reporting the issue now. WikiPedia Australia's President Brianna was sound quoted the most. Andrew's negative sound quote was also used. Prof. Julian Thomas of Swinburne Uni was also sound quoted. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: ABC's 'PM' covering Wikipedia Flagged Revs proposal
(whoops, pressed send by accident) ... was omitted entirely. The bit they did quote ran something like, the needs of the encyclopaedia for neutral reliable articles and the needs of the community which maintained the articles needed to be balanced, and that there was a risk that in effect we might end up favouring one perspective over another based simply on the length of time people had been around. 2009/1/27 Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com Eek, yes I heard it online via Sydney local radio. I was quoted verbatim but they used the second half of my quote, meaning that the part where I said that BLP was the biggest challenge to the encyclopaedia at present and that this was agreed by most, and that a solution was required, but the question was over the technical merits of this particular proposal. 2009/1/27 Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com NewsRadio is reporting the issue now. WikiPedia Australia's President Brianna was sound quoted the most. Andrew's negative sound quote was also used. Prof. Julian Thomas of Swinburne Uni was also sound quoted. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
