[Wikimediach-l] Contact's DB
Hi all, Quick question : do we already have a database for all contacts (press, people asking for info, etc...) ? If not, wouldn't it be a good idea to have one, in order to track who was contacting who, why, when ? Obviousely, this list should be stricly restricted. In case it already exists, please let me know : I do have 2 press contact to add. Thanks and regards, Nico ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Contact's DB
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Nico Ray n...@sabine-nico.ch wrote: Hi all, Quick question : do we already have a database for all contacts (press, people asking for info, etc...) ? If not, wouldn't it be a good idea to have one, in order to track who was contacting who, why, when ? Obviousely, this list should be stricly restricted. In case it already exists, please let me know : I do have 2 press contact to add. Thanks and regards, Nico Yes Nico, it has been a point discussed in a board meeting. It's a must for communication and marketing point of view and I have selected a tool like this: http://www.emailbrain.com/eb/standard-edition.shtml In addition I have already a tool written by me that I can release as open license to be adapted for WM CH purposes. Ilario ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Contact's DB
I think it's a good idea. I've many contact. I write nothing in our wiki because of public access. I think that we'll must a wiki just for the member. Ludovic 2011/1/27 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Nico Ray n...@sabine-nico.ch wrote: Hi all, Quick question : do we already have a database for all contacts (press, people asking for info, etc...) ? If not, wouldn't it be a good idea to have one, in order to track who was contacting who, why, when ? Obviousely, this list should be stricly restricted. In case it already exists, please let me know : I do have 2 press contact to add. Thanks and regards, Nico Yes Nico, it has been a point discussed in a board meeting. It's a must for communication and marketing point of view and I have selected a tool like this: http://www.emailbrain.com/eb/standard-edition.shtml In addition I have already a tool written by me that I can release as open license to be adapted for WM CH purposes. Ilario ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Contact's DB
I don't understand how a non-profit organisation that fosters open source ideology can spend money for something like this when even better solutions (such as full-fledged CRM) exist as open source software for free. Especially am I totally against putting our private data into a foreign system we have no control over, while we could host a real CRM for free and on our own systems. /Manuel Am 27.01.2011 20:02, schrieb Nico Ray: On 27.01.2011 16:50, Ilario Valdelli wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Nico Rayn...@sabine-nico.ch wrote: Hi all, Quick question : do we already have a database for all contacts (press, people asking for info, etc...) ? If not, wouldn't it be a good idea to have one, in order to track who was contacting who, why, when ? Obviousely, this list should be stricly restricted. In case it already exists, please let me know : I do have 2 press contact to add. Thanks and regards, Nico Yes Nico, it has been a point discussed in a board meeting. It's a must for communication and marketing point of view and I have selected a tool like this: http://www.emailbrain.com/eb/standard-edition.shtml In addition I have already a tool written by me that I can release as open license to be adapted for WM CH purposes. Ilario ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l Thanks Ilario, I just had a look on your emailbrain tool and it looks really perfect. Now the question is : is it feasable for Wikimedia CH to spend 108 USD (53.73 USD x 2) per year as per the price list on http://www.emailbrain.com/eb/pricing.shtml ? How shall we proceed with this ? (i.e. in a quick mode ideally) Nico ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Contact's DB
Perhaps that in 2007 www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch was a goog tool for the needs of 2007. Wikipedia has grown since 2007, Wikimedia CH as well. Now we have contacts profesionals. We needprofessional tools for that. Well, as far as I know is the last conclusion we met on the board mailinglist is that the contents are ok but the design needs to be renewed. Nothing else did I say in this mail. I'm sorry I'm not a web designer. And I think it's a real job. Actually I don't speak about www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch with contacts because I think it's a not a web site for communication. Well, in the page you set up a year and a half ago I can't participate as I don't speak french. I never actually understood what it really meant to say. The new page you set up recently to collect the features of the new website basically is a list of what the current website does. Plus that we have met the consent that we basically only need a better design. So what else should I add? I have already made my point. What I don't understand and what upsets me is that we are now starting the discussion all over again without making any progress. All I hear is rant - rant - rant. And of course everything is just shit, my personal fault etc. pp. And of course you expect me to have that all done already, because you are ranting since more than a year now. Actually I am okay with the website even though the design could be better. I have offered to facilitate the process. That's all I can do. If you don't like the website, it is on you to define that precisely and offer improvement, instead of ranting. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Contact's DB
If you don't see the difference between a tool for members (www.wikimedia.ch) and a tool for communication (www.wikimedia.de or www.wikimedia.fr), I'm sorry for you. I have not criticized your work on the current www.wikimedia.ch. I just said that it is not a tool for communicate and to know the association and its projects to the public and the press. Last point before leaving this conversation : It is important that you know that the desire to have a website with : * nice design * message about free knowledge in Switzerland * easy to browse ... it's not criticized your current work. Ludovic 2011/1/27 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch Perhaps that in 2007 www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch was a goog tool for the needs of 2007. Wikipedia has grown since 2007, Wikimedia CH as well. Now we have contacts profesionals. We needprofessional tools for that. Well, as far as I know is the last conclusion we met on the board mailinglist is that the contents are ok but the design needs to be renewed. Nothing else did I say in this mail. I'm sorry I'm not a web designer. And I think it's a real job. Actually I don't speak about www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch with contacts because I think it's a not a web site for communication. Well, in the page you set up a year and a half ago I can't participate as I don't speak french. I never actually understood what it really meant to say. The new page you set up recently to collect the features of the new website basically is a list of what the current website does. Plus that we have met the consent that we basically only need a better design. So what else should I add? I have already made my point. What I don't understand and what upsets me is that we are now starting the discussion all over again without making any progress. All I hear is rant - rant - rant. And of course everything is just shit, my personal fault etc. pp. And of course you expect me to have that all done already, because you are ranting since more than a year now. Actually I am okay with the website even though the design could be better. I have offered to facilitate the process. That's all I can do. If you don't like the website, it is on you to define that precisely and offer improvement, instead of ranting. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
