Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 24 February 2011 11:36, Anivar Aravind wrote: > Thanks for those links. I am aware about that. But not get enough time > to read it yet. But are you sure, it specified unicode 5.1 . I am > curious becuase new rupee symbol getting encoded only in unicode 6.1. > Usually govt standards does not s

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Dear gautam Thanks for those links. I am aware about that. But not get enough time to read it yet. But are you sure, it specified unicode 5.1 . I am curious becuase new rupee symbol getting encoded only in unicode 6.1. Usually govt standards does not specify versions. Anivar On 2/24/11, Gautam J

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Dear sankarshan Initial license of raghu font series was confusing. But later they changed it to gnu gpl, as per the insistance of RK joshi. Gnu gpl licensed fonts were released as a part of Indix project of cdacmumbai. Anivar On 2/24/11, sankarshan wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Ani

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

In West Bengal there are no Govt announcement regarding Unicode and KB layout.Our Govt are still in the ASCII era in all department. But they adopted Unicode by *Society for Natural Language Technology Research* (NLTR) (http://www.nltr.org/) and released Baishakhi Linux 2.0

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 24 February 2011 10:12, Shiju Alex wrote: > Even though Central Government has adopted Unicode as the encoding standard, > the case is not the same with most State Governments. As far as I know only > few state goverments (Tamil Nadu, Punjab, Kerala,...) had adopted Unicode > standard. Many ar

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

>>On input methods - is there anything of a best practice or even a Government notification about an input standard? In Tamil Nadu, the govt recommends and endorses the Tamil 99 keyboard layout. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: > Even though Central Government has adopted Unic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Even though Central Government has adopted Unicode as the encoding standard, the case is not the same with most State Governments. As far as I know only few state goverments (Tamil Nadu, Punjab, Kerala,...) had adopted Unicode standard. Many are still in the ASCII era. On input methods - is there

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Two things I meant to add: 1. The eGov standards body for India has recently notified Unicode 5.1.0 as the default standard for all eGov applications henceforth. (Sadly, their website is DoA - http://egovstandards.gov.in/) I am hopeful that this will be the start of some initiative within Governme

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Anivar Aravind wrote: > CDACMumbai have a history of GPL Licensing one font series as a part > of their indix project  , Raghu Series, by Late. Prof. R.K.Joshi, > Famous Calligrapher and Researcher in Type faces. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_K_Joshi > Rebrandi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On Thu, February 24, 2011 9:15 am, Nikhil Sheth wrote: > Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, > inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet > can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts > issue. Nikhil, all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 24 February 2011 09:21, sankarshan wrote: > And, looking at all this discussion I now wish that I submitted a > 'state of Indic' paper at some conference happening currently ;) Oh but you should! I would learn much from it and I am sure everyone else will learn something too! Thank you. Bes

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 24 February 2011 09:15, Nikhil Sheth wrote: > Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, > inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet > can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts issue. Sure - it's great t

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Anivar Aravind wrote: > The Discussion here was not only about Input methods. It is about > Encoding , Rendering & Fonts, which is the underlying technology which > enable input methods to work > > Also just a friendly request to understand thread first before > k

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Thank you, once again, Anivar. > Rendering Engines like Pango evolved through more than 10 years of > patching & correction by language communities. It work Pretty well in > most of the indic languages. That's a relief! > Now For latin script wiki's there is PDF download option & Pediapress > to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 2/24/11, Nikhil Sheth wrote: > Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, > inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet > can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts issue. Hey, What you are mentioning is jus

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

> > This discussion is not at all about input methods. I do not know why a sudden comparison between transliteration vs. InScript came here. Looking at all the solutions you provided, let me ask one thing. Have you really actively contributed/contributing to any Indian language wikipedia. A survey

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Nikhil Sheth wrote: > Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, > inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet > can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts issue. > > So here's s

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts issue. So here's some from me: 1. Quick copy-paste, working with a net connectio

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 2/23/11, Gautam John wrote: > Dear Anivar: > >> There are Four Components > > Thanks for the addendum - how important is the rendering engine in the > scheme of things? Is work on that pretty much done or are there issues > there too? If your language have some errors in Complex Glyph formatio

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Dear Anivar: > There are Four Components Thanks for the addendum - how important is the rendering engine in the scheme of things? Is work on that pretty much done or are there issues there too? > It is Font dependent. There is a need of Preparing Conversion maps for > each Ascii font to convert

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 2/22/11, Gautam John wrote: > On 22 February 2011 22:29, Santhosh Thottingal > wrote: > >> I think you have some confusion on Unicode and Fonts. Let me try to >> clarify in simple words. > > Yes - I did! And thank you for such a detailed response. > > To see if I have understood this - there a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 22 February 2011 22:29, Santhosh Thottingal wrote: > I think you have some confusion on Unicode and Fonts. Let me try to > clarify in simple words. Yes - I did! And thank you for such a detailed response. To see if I have understood this - there are three components: 1. Input (Different typ

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Gautam John wrote: > Data usage: Use of Unicode will significantly reduce bandwidth/storage This is technically wrong if we are comparing with ASCII encoded data. If you read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode article, you can understand that the indic lett

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gautam John wrote: > 2. Given that we publish in Indian languages, using Unicode fonts are > the only way to achieve cross-platform interoperability and is a > global standard. > 3. Given India's push towards copyright reform for the print impaired, > it is impera

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 17 February 2011 12:35, BalaSundaraRaman wrote: > I have some points to share, but got to go back to work now. > Can I get back on this later? Sure, Sundar! No hurry. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ ___ Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

n's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message > From: Gautam John > To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. > > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 11:29:27 AM > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode > > Hey Everyone: > &

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

On 17 February 2011 11:29, Gautam John wrote: > I'm trying to bring together some ideas as to why Unicode is > important, what the upsides and downsides are. My initial thoughts: A few other points that I read here: http://anandabazar-unicode.appspot.com/ Data usage: Use of Unicode will signifi

[Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode

Hey Everyone: This one isn't directly connected with Wikimedia projects but is, IMHO, one element of any Wikimedia project in India - Unicode. I'm trying to bring together some ideas as to why Unicode is important, what the upsides and downsides are. My initial thoughts: 1. While there are many