Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-19 Thread Shiju Alex
For SVG translation, use this tool:
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/svgtranslate/

My suggestion would be, let the respective language community do the
translation. Transliteration may not work work all the time.





On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I have done a plain google transliteration for India and Kerala maps to
 hi,kn,sa which is created by Rajesh Odayanchal(
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rajeshodayanchal) using a tool
 http://svg-edit.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.5.1/editor/svg-editor.html

 This maps were created as a part of Malayalam mapping project.

 If it needs some correction; can you please help ?

 Thanks,
 Naveen Francis

 On 15 June 2011 16:30, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:

 On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

  In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems
  completely invalid.

 Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not,
 per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be
 granted the moment it has been created.


 Of course, and I am completely in agreement with the sentiments of the
 commons group, who evidently do not want to see Wikipedia get caught up in a
 series of fruitless litigations across the world.

 I was drawing the attention of the list to the fact that the government
 people, who claim copyright for everything the government publishes, despite
 the fact that some of it is commons, are also ether slipshod in the manner
 in which they claim the copyright, or being forthright about the fact that
 some of it, possibly the data itself, is not intended to be copyrighted.

 Now, the disclaimer wording brought to our attention by Abhilash also
 mentions that not everything in the site is copyright, one must look at
 individual listings within in order to see if copyright is claimed therein.

 Naveen would do well to check that the information he wants to scrape in
 order to create his maps is specifically copyrighted, as otherwise it is
 clearly free-to-use, and the copyright disclaimer is very specific about
 this freedom.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Hi,

I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
already received informally from Shiju Alex.

The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at Mumbai
and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an example
of the event's firming up).

This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian Wikimedia
community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about to start
communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community members
have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be a
mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  interface as
all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to distinguish it
from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.

Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences, perhaps
their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is name of the
country) similarly.

Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
organising activities.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs

2011-06-19 Thread Gautam John
Yes - we could.

Pranesh - is there a form letter you have or can we create one so that
we can send it individually?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/




On 18 June 2011 23:38, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pranesh, Gautham,
 By any chance, can we create a Petition about this ?
 --Regards,


 On 18 June 2011 23:23, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 Pranesh:

 Do you have a form letter we could use, please?

 Something that we could each sign, individually, and send? To whom? By
 when?

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://social.prathambooks.org/




 On 18 June 2011 23:05, Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org wrote:
  Dear all,
  I am well aware that there are other issues such as that of copyright
  over works by the government and public undertakings.  We have raised
  this issue in our analysis[1] as well as our formal submission to the
  Parliamentary Standing Committee.[2]
 
  However, it is one thing to get something that is good (broad exception
  for government works / or even better: making government works public
  domain) which is not even on the table, and preventing an impending
  harm: decrease of the public domain in terms of Indian photographs.  The
  first is a longer term goal than the second.
 
  Copyright term of photographs is going to increase if folks don't stand
  up against it.
 
  Regards,
  Pranesh
 
   [1]: Analysis: http://goo.gl/Iv69r
   [2]: Civil Society submission: http://goo.gl/9Ws3E / Analysis of
  Standing Committee's report: http://goo.gl/Fs5WM
 
  On Saturday 18 June 2011 06:40 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also
  to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as
  that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is 
  OUR
  govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!).
 
 
  Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200
  From: pran...@cis-india.org
  To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org
  Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for
  photographs
 
  Dear all,
  It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the
  term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years
  (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60
  years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term =
  life
  of the photographer + 60 years).
 
  So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age
  of
  75 (in 2061):
  Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1,
  2037.
  Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122.
 
  The difference: 85 years!
 
  (I hope I've done the math correctly.)
 
  So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph
  to Wikipedia.
 
  As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this
  front by any photographers.  No one has really asked for it.
 
  We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society
  submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised
  this
  to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment.  But the
  chairman of that committee did not take notice.  In effect, the
  Standing
  Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working
  on the exception for persons with disabilities).
 
  Are people on this list concerned about this?  If yes, then we all need
  to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when
  the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session.
 
  Regards,
  Pranesh
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Theo10011
I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file it
for you and get someone to close the request.

Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
Wikimediaindia-l.

Salmaan
User:Theo10011



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at Mumbai
 and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an example
 of the event's firming up).

 This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian Wikimedia
 community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about to start
 communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community members
 have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be a
 mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to distinguish
 it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences, perhaps
 their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is name of the
 country) similarly.

 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
 organising activities.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Hi Salmaan,

Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists etc
communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level of
grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence we
are a little chary of appending media unless it is directly driven by or
associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many types,
whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national conference and
perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for the word
conference.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file
 it for you and get someone to close the request.

 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at Mumbai
 and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an example
 of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to distinguish
 it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences, perhaps
 their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is name of the
 country) similarly.

 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
 organising activities.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Theo10011
Thanks Ashwin.


I understand, let me know if you need my help.


Salmaan
User:Theo10011


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Salmaan,

 Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
 before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
 appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

 As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists etc
 communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level of
 grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence we
 are a little chary of appending media unless it is directly driven by or
 associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many types,
 whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national conference and
 perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for the word
 conference.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file
 it for you and get someone to close the request.

 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
 example of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to distinguish
 it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
 perhaps their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is name
 of the country) similarly.

 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
 organising activities.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Theo10011
I agree with Ashwin, I doubt it would make sense to form a list for only
this year/event. it's the same way for other activities, those lists have to
be used again.

Salmaan

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur
ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 No, since we shall know which Conference we are planning for! :)

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Abhilash S Unni 
 abhilashu...@gmail.comwrote:

 So are we going to use the same list name for every year?

 That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is
 used year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy
 in archiving isn't?

 Abhi


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashu...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
 still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. 
 May
 be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead 
 of
 11). Abhi


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ashwin.


 I understand, let me know if you need my help.


 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Salmaan,

 Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
 Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
 appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

 As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
 etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer 
 level
 of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
 hence
 we are a little chary of appending media unless it is directly driven 
 by
 or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
 types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
 conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt 
 for
 the word conference.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
 file it for you and get someone to close the request.

 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't 
 become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future 
 events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you 
 to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as 
 an
 example of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
 about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
 community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
 and be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for 
 planning and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  
 interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to 
 date and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google 
 policies.

 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to
 distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the 
 Wikimania
 series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
 perhaps their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  
 is name
 of the country) similarly.

 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can
 begin our organising activities.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Abhilash S Unni
So are we going to use the same list name for every year?

That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is used
year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy in
archiving isn't?

Abhi

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni 
 abhilashu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
 still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
 be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
 11). Abhi


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ashwin.


 I understand, let me know if you need my help.


 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Salmaan,

 Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
 Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
 appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

 As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
 etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level
 of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
 hence
 we are a little chary of appending media unless it is directly driven by
 or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
 types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
 conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
 the word conference.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
 file it for you and get someone to close the request.

 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
 example of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
 about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
 community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
 and be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning 
 and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  
 interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
 and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to
 distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
 series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
 perhaps their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is 
 name
 of the country) similarly.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Ashwin Baindur
On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
 still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
 be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
 11). Abhi


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ashwin.


 I understand, let me know if you need my help.


 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Salmaan,

 Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
 before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
 appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

 As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
 etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level
 of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence
 we are a little chary of appending media unless it is directly driven by
 or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
 types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
 conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
 the word conference.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
 file it for you and get someone to close the request.

 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
 example of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
 about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
 community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and 
 be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning 
 and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  interface 
 as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
 and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to
 distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
 series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
 perhaps their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is 
 name
 of the country) similarly.

 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
 our organising activities.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Announcement: Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD released

2011-06-19 Thread Shiju Alex
Dear All,

We completed one week of Malayalam Wikisource offline
releasehttp://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/creating-malayalam-wikisource-cd/.
Here is some statistics that we have: (Thanks to Jyothis for compiling this)


Hits to the ISO image : *46,922* (this is just number of hits. This does not
mean that all 46,922 hits lead to complete/successful downloads. We assume
at least 70-80% of those hits would be complete downloads.

   - 3,15,274 hits for mlwiki.in- the site hosting iso image and online
   version of Offline(Yes! :) ) on *June 12.*
   - 4,30,959 on *June 13*th
   - 2,30,985 on *June **14*th
   - 1,04,280 on *June **15*th

Yesterday we have started a torrent link also for the ISO image (
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957). So downloads are happening in that
way also now.

Here are the links by which you can access Malayalam wikisource offline
release.

   - iso Image http://www.mlwiki.in/cdimage/mlwikisource.iso
   - Torrent link
   http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957
   - Online browsing
   http://www.mlwiki.in/wikisrccd/index.html


Remember, last year the download count of Malayalam wikipedia offline
version 1.0 one week after the release was around 5000.

We found that the interest in Malayalam Wikisource offline is more than that
of Malayalam Wikipedia offline.


Shiju Alex




On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Jyothis E jyothi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear fellow Wikimedians,

 With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD
 project Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0 at the 4th
 annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala.
 --cut--

 Congratulations!  I am happy at the level of engagement in Malayalam
 community, which contributes to these kind of firsts in off-line access
 year after year.

 Best wishes
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
The subject headers added in every mail by mailman can be changed as
per need to reflect the relevant year/conference name.
Creating a new list everytime will be a pain.

-Sudhanwa


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashu...@gmail.com wrote:
 So are we going to use the same list name for every year?
 That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is used
 year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy in
 archiving isn't?
 Abhi

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
 still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
 be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
 11). Abhi

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ashwin.

 I understand, let me know if you need my help.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Salmaan,
 Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
 Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
 appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
 As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
 etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer 
 level
 of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
 hence
 we are a little chary of appending media unless it is directly driven by
 or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
 types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
 conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
 the word conference.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
 file it for you and get someone to close the request.
 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future 
 events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.
 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you 
 to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.
 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as 
 an
 example of the event's firming up).
 This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
 about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
 community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
 and be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for 
 planning and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use  
 interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
 and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
 We request that the list be named  WikiConference India, to
 distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
 series.
 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
 perhaps their lists could be named WikiConference  (where  is 
 name
 of the country) similarly.
 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
 our organising activities.
 Warm regards,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Announcement: Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD released

2011-06-19 Thread Ashwin Baindur
This is so fantastic - my eyes are popping out. Congrats, congrats to all
those involved.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All,

 We completed one week of Malayalam Wikisource offline 
 releasehttp://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/creating-malayalam-wikisource-cd/.
 Here is some statistics that we have: (Thanks to Jyothis for compiling this)


 Hits to the ISO image : *46,922* (this is just number of hits. This does
 not mean that all 46,922 hits lead to complete/successful downloads. We
 assume at least 70-80% of those hits would be complete downloads.

- 3,15,274 hits for mlwiki.in- the site hosting iso image and online
version of Offline(Yes! :) ) on *June 12.*
- 4,30,959 on *June 13*th
- 2,30,985 on *June **14*th
- 1,04,280 on *June **15*th

 Yesterday we have started a torrent link also for the ISO image (
 http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957). So downloads are happening in
 that way also now.

 Here are the links by which you can access Malayalam wikisource offline
 release.

- iso Image http://www.mlwiki.in/cdimage/mlwikisource.iso
- Torrent link
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957
- Online browsing
 http://www.mlwiki.in/wikisrccd/index.html


 Remember, last year the download count of Malayalam wikipedia offline
 version 1.0 one week after the release was around 5000.

 We found that the interest in Malayalam Wikisource offline is more than
 that of Malayalam Wikipedia offline.


 Shiju Alex




 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Jyothis E jyothi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear fellow Wikimedians,

 With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD
 project Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0 at the 4th
 annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala.
 --cut--

 Congratulations!  I am happy at the level of engagement in Malayalam
 community, which contributes to these kind of firsts in off-line access
 year after year.

 Best wishes
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

2011-06-19 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.


 Has the feasibility of hosting the list by Wikimedia.in domain  been
discussed.? As the event relates to India, I feel it may be better to host
it  as part of wikimedia.in.

Thanks
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Hurtigruta - another strange video project from Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation

2011-06-19 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi,

I spoke to the GM, Western Railway for whom User:AroundtheGlobe provided me
the number and spoke to him. He said he'd need a proper proposal before he
could comment on the possibility of giving us permission. He also said that
the request was strange and that he'd have to consult the legal department.
But, he's willing to do that only after we submit a proposal for this
project.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Creative Commons talk - Shishir Jha - June 18, 2011

2011-06-19 Thread Gautam John
Just to add that it was a most excellent session over three hours and
it was really nice to see a varied and very engaged audience as well.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/




On 19 June 2011 08:15, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,
 Just a small little note to let everyone know that the Mumbai community
 hosted the Creative Commons workshop yesterday.
 We had with us IIT-B Associate Professor and Creative Commons Project Lead
 (India), Shishir Jha. We had a nice mix of audience - people interested and
 active in copyright issues, film makers, librarians, publishers, etc. of up
 to 30 people.
 Shishir Jha began his talk with an explanation of the digital economy and
 then showed a 10 min intro (to give you an idea
 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BESbnMJg9M; if you know where a copy
 exists outside of YouTube, please do share!)  to Creative Commons after
 talking about the various Creative Commons licenses.
 Ashwin Baindur was present from the Pune community and gave us an insight
 into Wikimedia Commons. He also explained why Wikimedia used the CC licenses
 it did and illustrated  it with an example.
 Gautam John, from the Wikimedia Chapter was also present at the meeting. He
 presented a brief about the Wikimedia chapter and invited members to join
 the chapter. He also spoke about Pratham Books' experiment with the use of
 Creative Commons.
 We had a fine and diverse audience who were people who had worked on the
 ground. They had faced some of the problems related to copyrights and raised
 good questions.
 The project (pad.ma - you can find them at http://pad.ma/) have taken video
 of the talk which will be released to Wikimedia Commons. We will also upload
 slides from Shishir's talk if he sends it to us - we have made a request.
 The Mumbai community has sponsored the membership for Shishir Jha to the
 Wikimedia Chapter as a token of our appreciation.
 warm regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs

2011-06-19 Thread Gautam John
On 19 June 2011 21:57, Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org wrote:

 If one of you could help me draft the letter (I'm looking at you,
 Gautam), that would be appreciated.

For sure. Will work on this offline and post it here for further action.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India - Minutes 18-6-2011

2011-06-19 Thread wheredevelsdare

*Minutes of the Planning Meet which took place on 18-6-2011 (Saturday) in 
Mumbai*
**Cross posted on India/Mumbai/Pune lists - please forward to other City or 
Language lists that you may be a part of**
 
1. Name of conference - there were 3 suggestions. There was an idea that these 
could be put up for a week on Meta - asking people to vote for their choice (or 
make other suggestions):

a. '''Wikimela'''
 
Advantage: English/Hindi Fusion
 
Possible issue: Mela has different meanings (could be miscontrued for a 
carnival!)

b. '''Wiki Conference India'''
 
Advantage: Simplicity
 
Possible Issue: A bit to generic.

c. '''WikiMania India'''
 
Advantage: Global image of the name

Possible Issue: Could be confused with the global meet

2. All Documents to be posted on meta where a dedicated page will be made on 
meta.

3. Coordination among OC - Mail, Sabse bolo (Telepone) - minutes to be taken 
and calls to be moderated to ensure everyone has their say.

4. Master list - cross postings! A seperate mailing list to be made for the OC

5. Logo for the event - request for design to be posted on India list.

6. 3 office bearers. Chairperson/President of the event from Mumbai , Secretary 
in Pune and Tresurer from Mumbai. These 3 will be on the ground and will have 
visiting cards and letterheads made specifically for this event only.
 
7. Advisory committee - Hisham, Bishaka, Arjun, Achal 

8. Working groups and functional team: Everyone to choose sub-committees they 
want to be part of - Based on functionality. The OC as it stands at the moment 
will be redone - everyone part of sub-committees except office bearers and 
advisors who will be part of everything/advise everyone.

9. Venue - University of Mumbai (South Campus) was the unanimous choice. Again, 
will be put up on the India list - with a 72 hour deadline for people to 
respond (Similarly all other major decisions to be put on mailing list before 
execution).
 
10. Accommodation: 4 on the table thus far. YWCA, Astoria, Chateau Windsor and 
Sea Green - all within 5-15 minutes walking of the venue, Ensuite, 
Airconditioned rooms. YWCA, Chateau Windor, Sea Green all on par so can be 
offered to people with 100% scholarships. Astoria is equivalent to a 3 star so 
can be offered to those with 75% or 90% scholarship. Another few hotels are due 
to be checked out this week.

11. Teams:
Finance / Audit
Sponsorship
Scholarship
Media and pr
Volunteer
Speaker management
Program
Community communication
Venue
Logistics
IT team
Conference planning
Party plans

12. Finance: Joint accounts to be created 4 signatories (2 from Mumbai, 2 from 
Chapter). New A/c will be in Chapter name and will be for Conference purpose. 
At the end of the year Mumbai reps will be replaced with reps from next host 
and money rolled over for next conference (any overflow). Everyone to pitch in 
with Sponsors. Sponsors could be in cash or kind. Eg. Looking for airline 
sponsor to get people to Mumbai or just cash which can be used for the 
conference.
 
13. Party: Royal Bombay Yatch Club to be asked for a quote as well as Bombay 
Presidency Radio Club
 
14. Decisions to be made on Consensus or by Simple Majority if consensus not 
possible. 
 
15. Time limits: Time limits to be set for everything so that everything goes 
on time.
  
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[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India, 2011 - Proposed Venue (Any responses to be made within 72 hours of this email being sent)

2011-06-19 Thread wheredevelsdare

**Cross posted on India/Mumbai/Pune lists - kindly forward to other 
Language/City lists you may be a part of**
 
Dear All,
 
Bishakha, Moksh, Pradeep and myself visited the Unviersity of Mumbai (Fort 
Campus) last week to consider it as a venue for the upcoming WikiConference in 
November 2011. We had a look at the facilites they had to offer and we were 
impressed. They are offering us use of:
 
1. Convocation Hall - A standalone building within the Campus
a. Sir Cowasjee Jehangir Convocational Hall 
b. Viewing Gallery
c. 1st floor balcony on both sides of the Viewing Gallery overlooking the lawns
d. A small terrace over the porch and the lawns
2. 2 seminar sooms - A/c with capacity of 100 persons each (between 10am and 
3.30pm on Friday - for the weekend we can get it upto 6pm if there are no 
classes scheduled). These are in the adjoining building and are literally 2 
minutes  walking from the Convocation Hall.
3. Use of Lawns
4. Parking for 20-25 cars within the premises
 
Costs:
 
Rs. 94,000/- for the 3 days for the Convocation Hall (discount possible if we 
complete certain paperwork)
Rs. 3500/- for each Seminar room on weekdays and Rs.4500/- on weekends. 
 
 
Pictures (Picture Quality not the best - there was an event with Maharashtra CM 
as Chief Guest the same day so the place was being decked up):
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_28,_Ground_Floor_(1).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_28,_Ground_Floor_(2).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_144,_First_Floor_(1).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_144,_First_Floor_(1).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_144,_First_Floor_(3).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balcony_next_to_viewing_gallery,_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_1.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_2.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_3.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_4.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zodiac_Signs_in_Stained_Glass_at_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Convocation_Hall_view_from_viewing_gallery.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Lawns_1.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Lawns_2.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Lawns_3_(Behind_statue_of_Sir_Cowasjee_Jehangir).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Porch_of_Convocation_Hall_Building.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Staircase_at_University_of_Mumbai.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rajabai_Clock_Tower_from_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Staricase_to_Viewing_Gallery.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terrace_atop_porch_of_Convocation_Hall_Building.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Viewing_Gallery_at_the_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
The Organising Team proposes to finalise the University of Mumbai (Fort Campus) 
as the event venue. Kindly revert with your thoughts - supporting (or 
objecting) to this choice of venue within 72 hours of this email being sent. If 
anyone has any other suggestions, kindly revert with the same, again within 72 
hours of this email being sent. 
 
 
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