Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
+1 to WDD.

Also, let us NOT mix Social Media with Wikipedia. I don't want people
posing 'Wl u be mai frnd' on my Talk page.
Social Media and Wikipedia, is a big NONO.
I realised this back in 2010 when I was trying to use Twitter to get more
Wikipedians.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:05 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  You have hired someone who is paid for this very role. Let that person
 submit their plan of action on all these to the community for comments. Why
 are you posting all of this to us?

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 From: his...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:14:17 +0530

 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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 On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:

 Hi,
 The conversation is moving off topic. Perhaps the question to mull over is
 what to do next?


1. How do we move the predominance of media coverage beyond mainstream
English print into local language print and other media channels such as
radio and the Internet?
2. How do we encourage volunteers from as many Indic communities as
possible to volunteer for communications activities so that as many
languages are covered?
3. How do we ensure that news coverage is not all warm fuzzy stuff
about Wikipedia - but also provides a call to action to potential newbies
as well as links or contacts that they can reach out?
4. How do we build and expand our network of media contacts?
5. How do we build a toolkit for media/PR/social media such that
community members are able to rapidly deploy to support specific
initiatives such as Wikiprojects or to celebrate community or project
milestones?
6. How can we use media to support specific community events such as
meet-ups or outreach sessions?
7. Can we use media/PR to celebrate editing excellence - by showcasing
select articles - and also sharing insights and invitations into the
movement that is behind this content?
8. Can we acknowledge individual life / wiki stories of editors to
promote editor retention and newbie attraction?
9. Can we build a digital outreach model that is effective?  What will
it take - in terms of resources such as online tutorials or videos or help
pages or chat rooms?
10. How does a digital outreach model not duplicate existing efforts
already underway or in advanced stages of planning?
11. Can we integrate community building into the digital outreach
model?
12. How do we determine if a language community is able to manage the
potential newbie load from such a digital outreach model?
13. How do we teach the media about the movement and community and
projects - given relatively low levels of understanding within such an
influential group?
14. How do we support a community initiative like Wikipatrika in a
manner that it remains entirely owned by the individual community members -
but we are still able to help them?  How do we do this without taking away
credit and also without building dependence?
15. How do we make the India Program monthly newsletters richer and
more useful to community members?
16. Can we introduce story-telling as a effective means of sharing the
work that is done by community members such that we are able to
cross-pollinate ideas?
17. How can social media be used to drive not just attendance of
events (such as photothons) but can be used to introduce newbies to
Wikimedia policies?
18. How can we adapt the WikimediaIndia handle on facebook so that it
expands in popularity - but remains relevant to newbies and more
experienced community members?
19. How do we build the WikimediaIndia handle on twitter?
20. How do we constantly remain on top of trends in social media so
that we are present and relevant in channels where potential newbies might
be?
21. Do we need to localise swag and if so what do we do we need?
22. How do we work intimately with the Chapter's communications team -
but remain accessible to non-Chapter members as well?
23. How do we ensure that everything we do on communications is rooted
in community building and not marketing mumbo jumbo?
24. How do we measure results in communications?
25. How do we constantly ensure that everything done on communications
- which will require the communications expertise - can be done in a manner
where capability is transferred to interested community members?


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-03-26 Thread wheredevelsdare

1. Report - Pradeep has covered that. Lets not link this to wci 12.
2. Video - We got the dvds in Jan but had some trouble converting/uploading to 
Youtube, we are working on this and hope to close this asap.

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:41:25 +0530
From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

It has been 5 months since the event.
Not just the report, nothing else, the promised footage, details, nothing hs 
been made public.
As Bala said,  (I know i wont volunteer again unless things change a lot).

I agree. Participants maybe deterred by the sheer amount of effort required to 
get something on such a scale up and running.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi,
Both of us have submitted parts of the Report to WMF. We're working on a 
combined Report that will be made public. 
Pradeep

Handheld
On Mar 26, 2012 9:39 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote:


Tinu,

Yes, WCI 1 has had a positive impact on the communities. But any call for WCI 2 
is premature without thoroughly analysing WCI 1. We had a lot of short comings 
in the planning, organising and conduction of the event. Without doing some 
thorough analysis of what went wrong, what could have been done better and what 
should be avoided in the future. 




Lets please have a report and analyse how things could have been done better 
before we start talking about the next event. The first event was possible 
because of full time organisors and people pitching in because of the have to 
make the first indian event a success factor.  I dont think that would happen 
next time. (I know i wont volunteer again unless things change a lot).




So lets have the WCI i report published and analysed here before we start 
thinking about WCI 2.

-
Bala

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:





On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:32, Tinu Cherian ( Wikimedia India) 
tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote:






In 2011, WikiConference India was held for the first time and turned out to be 
a landmark event.
It was the largest Wikipedia conference in the world, ever held to date!

Can we keep niceties aside and look at how the event was run / challenges faced 
by organizers (Includes chapter-OC coordination and a semi-public spat) and do 
a thorough discussion on the conference list before talking of any next steps 
for WCI 2012. Also there has been no report that has been made available public 
for the community. It is for the community's own good health, issues are ironed 
out even before there is *any* discussion on next WCI. It might be good for the 
chapter / IP to keep having a conference every year and showcase India story, 
but volunteers(including the bootstrap team) who are interested in organizing 
must know what are the pain points in making a conference happen and the kind 
of support they would be getting from chapter / IP.





Pranav / Pradeep,Can we have your conference OC report any sooner? 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 14:37, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:


 Also, let us NOT mix Social Media with Wikipedia. I don't want people
 posing 'Wl u be mai frnd' on my Talk page.
 Social Media and Wikipedia, is a big NONO.
 I realised this back in 2010 when I was trying to use Twitter to get more
 Wikipedians.


Perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us about how you went about trying
to get more Wikipedians through Twitter?

I suspect that would help the rest of these guys who are trying to use
social media to recruit  more Wikipedians determine whether all of social
media is used only by a bunch of douchebags (who, on finding how awesomely
incredible the community scene is here, will flock to your (and all of our)
Talk pages and post fraandsheep requests (when they find no Wikifraand
button)) so they can quit all their social media efforts

OR

that could perhaps help them determine what they should _not_ do, should
they decide that there are indeed _some_ people who are not douchebags
using social media who have the potential to be recruited to the Wikiverse
(I know- how unlikely)?

Just a thought.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
I'd send it privately as a mil to you alone.
I did it as a volunteer.
Remember, the WMF has hired someone to do the same. They may have more
'working' ideas.


On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 14:37, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:


 Also, let us NOT mix Social Media with Wikipedia. I don't want people
 posing 'Wl u be mai frnd' on my Talk page.
 Social Media and Wikipedia, is a big NONO.
 I realised this back in 2010 when I was trying to use Twitter to get more
 Wikipedians.


 Perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us about how you went about trying
 to get more Wikipedians through Twitter?

 I suspect that would help the rest of these guys who are trying to use
 social media to recruit  more Wikipedians determine whether all of social
 media is used only by a bunch of douchebags (who, on finding how awesomely
 incredible the community scene is here, will flock to your (and all of our)
 Talk pages and post fraandsheep requests (when they find no Wikifraand
 button)) so they can quit all their social media efforts

 OR

 that could perhaps help them determine what they should _not_ do, should
 they decide that there are indeed _some_ people who are not douchebags
 using social media who have the potential to be recruited to the Wikiverse
 (I know- how unlikely)?

 Just a thought.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 15:14, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd send it privately as a mil to you alone.
 I did it as a volunteer.
 Remember, the WMF has hired someone to do the same. They may have more
 'working' ideas.


Of course. Of course.

But perhaps an explanation of your very valuable experience on this matter
might help save everyone who is 'working' on these things some time and
effort, no? It would be so helpful of you to do this, so that everyone
involved can say that it is pointless to work on social media efforts
because of such and such reasons; instead of because Srikanth Ramakrishnan
said so (I'm sure you are correct, nonetheless).

I beg you send the email to the list for everyone's welfare. So that I am
not alone in learning how to use (or not to use) this Twitter thingy. In
the spirit of Wikipedia and sharing knowledge and all that.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-03-26 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 14:53, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  1. Report - Pradeep has covered that. Lets not link this to wci 12.


Or perhaps there could be a rain check on WCI-12 till the report is out?

So that whoever is working on WCI-12 can learn from past mistakes? And get
stuff correct right at the conception stage?
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation for 2nd Bhubaneswar Meetup

2012-03-26 Thread Mrutyunjaya Kar
Dear All,

The 2nd Bhubaneswar meetup (http://goo.gl/AccU6) is planned
for Sunday 1st April 2012 (Odisha day), from 1030 to 1230 hrs at
Webrains Solutions Private Limited,
Infocity, Near Gulf Club, Bhubaneswar  by Odia Wiki Community.

One community meetup between the existing Odia Wikipedians is also
planned to be held on the same day from 1500 to 1630 hrs.

If you're interested to join in the meet up on Sunday, 1st April
Please register at: http://goo.gl/Qrznv

Two more Wiki WorkShops at Angul (30th March) and Cuttack (31st March
) are also under consideration (Not confirmed till now).

-- 
Cheers
ମୃତ୍ୟୁଞ୍ଜୟ କର
2nd BBSR Odia Wikipedia Workshop on 1st April 2012.
https://www.facebook.com/events/366609686703867

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Gautam John
On 26 March 2012 14:37, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, let us NOT mix Social Media with Wikipedia. I don't want people posing
 'Wl u be mai frnd' on my Talk page.
 Social Media and Wikipedia, is a big NONO.

I'm curious. Why do you say, so?

What are the other paths to get new editors in to the fold?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation for 2nd Bhubaneswar Meetup

2012-03-26 Thread ansuman
All the very best guys, Hope we will get new editors and remember I am
always there to assist newbies. Let them and me know :-)

On 26 March 2012 16:27, Mrutyunjaya Kar mkr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

The 2nd Bhubaneswar meetup (http://goo.gl/AccU6) is planned
 for Sunday 1st April 2012 (Odisha day), from 1030 to 1230 hrs at
 Webrains Solutions Private Limited,
 Infocity, Near Gulf Club, Bhubaneswar  by Odia Wiki Community.

 One community meetup between the existing Odia Wikipedians is also
 planned to be held on the same day from 1500 to 1630 hrs.

 If you're interested to join in the meet up on Sunday, 1st April
 Please register at: http://goo.gl/Qrznv

 Two more Wiki WorkShops at Angul (30th March) and Cuttack (31st March
 ) are also under consideration (Not confirmed till now).

 --
 Cheers
 ମୃତ୍ୟୁଞ୍ଜୟ କର
 2nd BBSR Odia Wikipedia Workshop on 1st April 2012.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-03-26 Thread Mandar Kulkarni
Apart from the formal report, we still have not received the VDOs which were 
been promised in Nov. and nobody in the mailing list is commenting on that. Who 
owns that responsibility? If no body can take the ownership of that, why you 
cannot declare that we will not publish the VDOs or those will not be made 
available ever.
 
There are many such open points/pain area which needs to be taken care in the 
next conference.

With Regards,

Mandar V. Kulkarni
http://mr.wikipedia.org
http://mr.wikisource.org
http://live.wikimedia.in



From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012, 8:56
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team





On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:32, Tinu Cherian ( Wikimedia India) 
tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote:


In 2011, WikiConference India was held for the first time and turned out to 
be a landmark event.
It was the largest Wikipedia conference in the world, ever held to date!

Can we keep niceties aside and look at how the event was run 
/ challenges faced by organizers (Includes chapter-OC coordination and a 
semi-public spat) and do a thorough discussion on the conference list before 
talking of any next steps for WCI 2012. Also there has been no report that has 
been made available public for the community. It is for the community's own 
good health, issues are ironed out even before there is *any* discussion on 
next WCI. It might be good for the chapter / IP to keep having a conference 
every year and showcase India story, but volunteers(including the bootstrap 
team) who are interested in organizing must know what are the pain points in 
making a conference happen and the kind of support they would be getting from 
chapter / IP. 


Pranav / Pradeep,
Can we have your conference OC report any sooner? 


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Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-03-26 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Hi Mandar,
  I guess you are referring to the Videos of the 2011
Conference.
It was answered earlier in this thread earlier
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-March/007738.html


Btw I am not sure if all bold  large fonts are considered the same way as
all capital letters. :)

-TC



On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Mandar Kulkarni
mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 Apart from the formal report, we still have not received the VDOs
 which were been promised in Nov. and nobody in the mailing list is
 commenting on that. Who owns that responsibility? If no body can take the
 ownership of that, why you cannot declare that we will not publish the VDOs
 or those will not be made available ever.

 There are many such open points/pain area which needs to be taken care in
 the next conference.

 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org
  http://mr.wikisource.org
 http://live.wikimedia.in

*From:* Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

 *Sent:* Monday, 26 March 2012, 8:56

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap
 Team



 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:32, Tinu Cherian ( Wikimedia India) 
 tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote:


 In 2011, WikiConference India was held for the first time and turned out
 to be a landmark event.
 It was the largest Wikipedia conference in the world, ever held to date!


 Can we keep niceties aside and look at how the event was run
 / challenges faced by organizers (Includes chapter-OC coordination and a
 semi-public spat) and do a thorough discussion on the conference list
 before talking of any next steps for WCI 2012. Also there has been no
 report that has been made available public for the community. It is for the
 community's own good health, issues are ironed out even before there is
 *any* discussion on next WCI. It might be good for the chapter / IP to keep
 having a conference every year and showcase India story, but
 volunteers(including the bootstrap team) who are interested in organizing
 must know what are the pain points in making a conference happen and the
 kind of support they would be getting from chapter / IP.

 Pranav / Pradeep,
 Can we have your conference OC report any sooner?

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Membership Drive for year 2012-13

2012-03-26 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi all,

Greetings from the Wikimedia India !

We are pleased to announce that Wikimedia India chapter ( Registered Name:
Wikimedia Chapter) membership applications for the year 2012-’13 has been
started. You can find most of the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about
the membership here http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Membership-FAQ .

Wikimedians / Wikipedians in India, who are interested to become the member
of the Wikimedia India need to fill the membership form and send
themembership 
applicationhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/images/9/9c/WikimediaChapterMembershipFormIndividual.pdfto
the chapter office
address http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Contact_Us (it is statutory requirement).
Payment of membership fee can be via NEFT or DD/Cheque. Please do not send
 cash or outstation cheques .

If you have any queries, please do email us at members...@wikimedia.in

Thanks,

On behalf of Wikimedia India Chapter.

Naveen Francis,
Secretary .
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon

2012-03-26 Thread Netha Hussain
Report of the First India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon :

The India WikiWomen Edit-a-Thon was held on 25th of March, 2012 from 11 30
to 14 00 IST. Eight people signed up for the event, but only four editors
turned up for the event. The editors who participated in the Edit-a-thon
were User: Nitika.t, User: Nicke.me, User: Karthikndr and myself. The
Edit-a-Thon began with the IRC hangout at 11 30 am IST where the
participants introduced each other and discussed about the necessary
changes to be made on the [[Sarojini Naidu]] article.

We started editing at 12.

1. We added about 20 references in the article.
2. we added sections and content under Naidu's early life, married life,
career and famous poems. (8397 bytes of data)
3. We added pictures from Commons.

It great that we were able to substantially improve the article by adding
content, citations, inline references and images. The Edit-a-Thon continued
till 14 00 IST.

We had fun! :)

Thanks to all participants for joining the event.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:01 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's great ! Would be fun working !! :)

 Cheers,
 Nikita.


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote:

 The Edit-a-thon will be held on tomorrow, 25th March from 1200 IST to
 1400 IST. The article to be worked on during the event is [[Sarojini
 Naidu]] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarojini_Naidu. There will be an
 IRC meet for half an hour starting at 11 30 am IST  for the participants of
 the Edit-a-thon.

 To join the IRC, all you have to do is go to:
 http://webchat.freenode.net/  and enter a nickname and enter
 #wikimedia-office as the channel name.

 Hoping to see you all at the Edit-a-thon!

 Cheers

 Netha.




 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote:

 A gentle remainder :

 The WikiWomen Edit-a-thon is scheduled to be held from 1200 to 1400 IST
 on 25th of March 2012 (Sunday). There will be a google hangout (or an IRC
 meet, depending on the convenience of the participants)  from 1100 to 1200
 IST. Please vote for the article of your choice 
 herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon.
 If you are interested in joining the Edit-a-thon, but have not registered
 your names yet, please register 
 herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/India_WikiWomen%27s_Edit-a-Thon
 .

 Thanks!



 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
 pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 I was looking at the nominations page and can see no nominations
 relating to women who played a role in India's history. The edit-a-thon has
 been organised in honour of
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiWomen%27s_History_Month and
 aims to contribute articles on women in history, While it is great
 that some of the names have come up from contemporary names and the group
 can select a name, it would greatly help to work on articles from women in
 history.

 warm regards,
 User:Prad2609

 On 14 March 2012 19:56, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, will hang out with the 'wikichix' and tell you :P


 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Noopur, thanks for understanding and your kind note.

 I would request you to discuss with other women editors during the
 Wiki-Edit-a-thon and come up with a recommendation. I think it is best 
 that
 you decide for yourselves.


 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --


 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Ashwin!
 I don't think anyone who is active on this list will misunderstand
 your mail. :) We've had discussions before on how a lot of positions 
 cause
 confusion and I also want someone who can dedicate enough time and
 attention to work on this project. So, no hard feelings on my part. I 
 also
 saw your Wikipatrika Meta suggestion (going OT here). Since I will be
 taking that up, my hands are really full anyway.
 Anyway, I'd want to be the backup in case you need any short term
 help. I am grateful for your considerate explanation though :) In the
 meanwhile, we have a list of women Wikipedians. Naveen can suggest a 
 name
 or two that can be approached?
 Regards
 Noopur


 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to publicly say that I have erred in naming Noopur
 here. I did not mean to cast any aspersion on her and her good work and
 track record. I  thought that since she is a publicly known figure with
 responsibilities and good work done in so many spheres - GLAM, Delhi
 community and now in India Programs, that it would be an example of an
 already dedicated person whereas I preferred someone new who was not
 already committed.

 I now see that I was wrong to name a specific person. The text can
 be misconstrued as a negative by those who dont know Noopur or her
 qualities. Also Noopur never aspired 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Is there a prize for answering these questions?

These questions look odd without context/clarification.

Pradeep

On 26 March 2012 11:14, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:



 On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:

 Hi,

 The conversation is moving off topic. Perhaps the question to mull over is
 what to do next?


1. How do we move the predominance of media coverage beyond mainstream
English print into local language print and other media channels such as
radio and the Internet?
2. How do we encourage volunteers from as many Indic communities as
possible to volunteer for communications activities so that as many
languages are covered?
3. How do we ensure that news coverage is not all warm fuzzy stuff
about Wikipedia - but also provides a call to action to potential newbies
as well as links or contacts that they can reach out?
4. How do we build and expand our network of media contacts?
5. How do we build a toolkit for media/PR/social media such that
community members are able to rapidly deploy to support specific
initiatives such as Wikiprojects or to celebrate community or project
milestones?
6. How can we use media to support specific community events such as
meet-ups or outreach sessions?
7. Can we use media/PR to celebrate editing excellence - by showcasing
select articles - and also sharing insights and invitations into the
movement that is behind this content?
8. Can we acknowledge individual life / wiki stories of editors to
promote editor retention and newbie attraction?
9. Can we build a digital outreach model that is effective?  What will
it take - in terms of resources such as online tutorials or videos or help
pages or chat rooms?
10. How does a digital outreach model not duplicate existing efforts
already underway or in advanced stages of planning?
11. Can we integrate community building into the digital outreach
model?
12. How do we determine if a language community is able to manage the
potential newbie load from such a digital outreach model?
13. How do we teach the media about the movement and community and
projects - given relatively low levels of understanding within such an
influential group?
14. How do we support a community initiative like Wikipatrika in a
manner that it remains entirely owned by the individual community members -
but we are still able to help them?  How do we do this without taking away
credit and also without building dependence?
15. How do we make the India Program monthly newsletters richer and
more useful to community members?
16. Can we introduce story-telling as a effective means of sharing the
work that is done by community members such that we are able to
cross-pollinate ideas?
17. How can social media be used to drive not just attendance of
events (such as photothons) but can be used to introduce newbies to
Wikimedia policies?
18. How can we adapt the WikimediaIndia handle on facebook so that it
expands in popularity - but remains relevant to newbies and more
experienced community members?
19. How do we build the WikimediaIndia handle on twitter?
20. How do we constantly remain on top of trends in social media so
that we are present and relevant in channels where potential newbies might
be?
21. Do we need to localise swag and if so what do we do we need?
22. How do we work intimately with the Chapter's communications team -
but remain accessible to non-Chapter members as well?
23. How do we ensure that everything we do on communications is rooted
in community building and not marketing mumbo jumbo?
24. How do we measure results in communications?
25. How do we constantly ensure that everything done on communications
- which will require the communications expertise - can be done in a manner
where capability is transferred to interested community members?


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Tinu, whether the videos and reports are out or not, the fact of the
matter is that not many of those who didn't attend last time know what
happened and this may result in noone volunteering.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation for 2nd Bhubaneswar Meetup

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
All the very best to the Odisha team. May all your efforts be very successful.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Great job! I hope in Future, we can have more users and can span
multiple languages.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609

2012-03-26 Thread Srikeit
*[Something I posted as a message to Pradeep's talk page on his decision to
retire from Wikipedia. But I think may make sense to many of you. Please
ignore if you think I'm caballing]*

*
*

*Why retire from here?*

Remember the good old days? When we used to edit in our own cocoons? The
only communication between two editors was through talk pages and the
occasional use of [[Special:Emailuser]]. And we had fun. That fun is why
we're still here.

We moved on to more communication, more outreach. All good. We need to
spread the word. We're evangelists of the noblest of causes. It's all good.

Now there are mailing lists. And IRC. And meetups. And Chat. Chain mails
and more chain mails. Each more frustrating than the other. We're all in
cabals. If not voluntarily, we're slotted into them by force of opinion. As
this message is being read by others visiting this page, I'm being slotted
into one. You have to be pro-someone and anti-someone else. And we fight
till our teeth come loose. And then some more. Politics is fun now.
Wikipedia, not so much.

And if this lack of AGF, too much BITE, BATTLE and blah is too much,
retire. But not from Wikipedia.

Retire from the mailing lists, the meetups, the cabals and the works. If
you're considering quitting Wikipedia, quit those instead. Wikipedia can
still be fun. Edit the articles on astronomy and India space projects
again. India-related patrolling. Contribute to Commons. Only respond to
messages on your talk page. And that occasional email.

As an experienced editor who's largely inactive, I've considered retiring
often rather than staying in limbo. Time and again, I've decided not to. I
may not be able to contribute regularly, but I can step in that one time
when all the experience probably counts for something. Because Wikipedia
was there for me when I really needed it and I will be there when it really
needs me.

We've been struggling with editor retention and that's understandable.
People quitting Wikipedia because it's now a battleground is
understandable. Valuable, experienced editors quitting because the mailing
lists are suffocating, is NOT.

You can edit. Always.

Cheers


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609

2012-03-26 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Don't worry Srikeit ,

That is a temporary phase.
IIRC, he was out of the mailing list/s also some weeks/months back. :-)

Let him take some wikiholidays and come back afresh.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Srikeit srik...@gmail.com wrote:
 [Something I posted as a message to Pradeep's talk page on his decision to
 retire from Wikipedia. But I think may make sense to many of you. Please
 ignore if you think I'm caballing]


 Why retire from here?

 Remember the good old days? When we used to edit in our own cocoons? The
 only communication between two editors was through talk pages and the
 occasional use of [[Special:Emailuser]]. And we had fun. That fun is why
 we're still here.

 We moved on to more communication, more outreach. All good. We need to
 spread the word. We're evangelists of the noblest of causes. It's all good.


[snip]

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Srikeit, I agree with you. Personally, my edits in 2009 dipped heavily
after I joined the list and I started going to offline meets. I myself
had disabled deliveries from this list, only to create a new account
for it. Sad.
As for retirement, don't worry. I'd give him some time to think over
it. It took me five months to think, realise and take that retired
banner off my userpage. Let's hope Pradeep thinks faster than me.

-- 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-03-26 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
I didn't know the passion for continued volunteering for the Wikimedia
movement was dependent on the availability of the videos of the
WikiConference :P ( We should definitely add that as one of the key
expectations for next Conference)

The fact that those who didn't attend last time was their own personal
choice again. No one can predict they will attend next Conference , not
even all those who attended the conference last year.

BTW Personally I would love to see the videos soon. I couldn't attend all
the sessions :D

-TC

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tinu, whether the videos and reports are out or not, the fact of the
 matter is that not many of those who didn't attend last time know what
 happened and this may result in noone volunteering.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wiktionary reached 1 lakh mile stone!

2012-03-26 Thread Rajesh Pandey
Congratulations editors :)

Cheers,
Rajesh
User:RajeshPandey
On Mar 25, 2012 12:58 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations :-) ya please share more !

 On 25 March 2012 10:07, Jobin Raju jobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations to all!

 With regards,
 Jobin Raju
 User: Jobin RV


 On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 8:35 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Anoopan for sharing this good news. Congratulations all those who
 contributes to Malayalam Wiktionary.

 If possible, can someone also share with some stats growth of Malayalam
 Wiktionary , especially on earlier key milestones ike when 25k, 50k,etc
 happened.
 And who are the key contributors for the growth ...
 What are the best practices?
 Did Malayalam Wiktionary get data from any Government Dictionary
 projects etc.

 It would certainly help other language Wiktionary projects.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am happy to inform you that Malayalam 
 Wiktionaryhttp://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A8_%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B5%BEhas
  completed 1
 lakh 
 entrieshttp://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82today.

 Please join me to congratulate Malayalam Wikitionary team for achieving
 this milestone.

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 With Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wiktionary reached 1 lakh mile stone!

2012-03-26 Thread Saroj Dhakal
Congrats ! Great news indeed !



On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Rajesh Pandey pandey.pan...@gmail.comwrote:


 Congratulations editors :)

 Cheers,
 Rajesh
 User:RajeshPandey
 On Mar 25, 2012 12:58 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations :-) ya please share more !

 On 25 March 2012 10:07, Jobin Raju jobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations to all!

 With regards,
 Jobin Raju
 User: Jobin RV


 On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 8:35 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Anoopan for sharing this good news. Congratulations all those
 who contributes to Malayalam Wiktionary.

 If possible, can someone also share with some stats growth of Malayalam
 Wiktionary , especially on earlier key milestones ike when 25k, 50k,etc
 happened.
 And who are the key contributors for the growth ...
 What are the best practices?
 Did Malayalam Wiktionary get data from any Government Dictionary
 projects etc.

 It would certainly help other language Wiktionary projects.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am happy to inform you that Malayalam 
 Wiktionaryhttp://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A8_%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B5%BEhas
  completed 1
 lakh 
 entrieshttp://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82today.

 Please join me to congratulate Malayalam Wikitionary team for
 achieving this milestone.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609

2012-03-26 Thread wheredevelsdare

Please dont underestimate things - they are far more serious than they were in 
the past. 

Srikeit: The issues are far too serious to leave aside. There so much involved 
and things look so dark, I myself am at wits end. The question is does one have 
the time and energy to take them up or does one just given up and leave.

 From: sudhanwa@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:29:52 +0530
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609
 
 Don't worry Srikeit ,
 
 That is a temporary phase.
 IIRC, he was out of the mailing list/s also some weeks/months back. :-)
 
 Let him take some wikiholidays and come back afresh.
 
 Regards
 -Sudhanwa
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Srikeit srik...@gmail.com wrote:
  [Something I posted as a message to Pradeep's talk page on his decision to
  retire from Wikipedia. But I think may make sense to many of you. Please
  ignore if you think I'm caballing]
 
 
  Why retire from here?
 
  Remember the good old days? When we used to edit in our own cocoons? The
  only communication between two editors was through talk pages and the
  occasional use of [[Special:Emailuser]]. And we had fun. That fun is why
  we're still here.
 
  We moved on to more communication, more outreach. All good. We need to
  spread the word. We're evangelists of the noblest of causes. It's all good.
 
 
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