Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chapter's Dialogue Report
Hi Pradeep, Thanks for sharing this report. //India is in a similar position as the Movement globally. It is to me, slightly a relief. There is hope.// This is what I have been trying to explain in recent conversations too. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter: Current state of affairs
Hi Sudhanwa, Wikimedia India Chapter is an independent organization and we (the community) should let it work with at least some level of autonomy. Oher agencies like WMF, CIS have more liberty due to their organizational structure. In the name of accountability, if we are going to raise questions like these, no chapter can make decisions in good faith and act efficiently. The larger Wikimedia community that works directly on Wikimedia websites and towards it's mission offline can be considered it's stakeholders. The chapter can inform this part of the stakeholders through its annual / half yearly / monthly reports and we have every right to demand such reports and participate during FDC requests. But, micro managing like this is not going to help. If we need better governance, we need to become members of the chapter and raise such questions as a member. And that too, we can discuss in Chapter Wiki or Meta (if appropriate). Every year, tens of people from India attend Wikimania and other national level events. They are not expected to submit any kind of reports. Don't we trust that these visits will help the larger movement in some way? Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter: Current state of affairs
I am a member of WMUK and have never seen board members or EC consulting community before they travel abroad. I don't think it is necessary for them to consult community on each and every matter. So far as I am aware WMIN's accounts are audited annually and these expenses must be audited. Also, accounts submitted to WMF as well where if any amount is spent out of the scope it will be questioned. I am not sure whether what Sudhanwa is asking on people's behalf is a requirement for any other chapter or organisation funded by WMF. Regards, Dhaval On 11 Sep 2014 10:41, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sudhanwa, Wikimedia India Chapter is an independent organization and we (the community) should let it work with at least some level of autonomy. Oher agencies like WMF, CIS have more liberty due to their organizational structure. In the name of accountability, if we are going to raise questions like these, no chapter can make decisions in good faith and act efficiently. The larger Wikimedia community that works directly on Wikimedia websites and towards it's mission offline can be considered it's stakeholders. The chapter can inform this part of the stakeholders through its annual / half yearly / monthly reports and we have every right to demand such reports and participate during FDC requests. But, micro managing like this is not going to help. If we need better governance, we need to become members of the chapter and raise such questions as a member. And that too, we can discuss in Chapter Wiki or Meta (if appropriate). Every year, tens of people from India attend Wikimania and other national level events. They are not expected to submit any kind of reports. Don't we trust that these visits will help the larger movement in some way? Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Many user groups instead of One Chapter?
Hi Sudhanwa, I agree with your views. Excellently answered. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter: Current state of affairs
Hi Sudhanwa, //Looks like I am the only person asking questions to WMIN// That's not an issue. But, I would request anyone to follow few steps before escalating issues to India mailing list. 1. Please post your questions in Chapter Wiki's village pump. If there is no such place, we need to create one. If that doesn't help, post in chapter's mailing list. If that doesn't help, write to the Executive Manager and give him sufficient time. If that doesn't help, please ping some of the EC members through email. 2. Please escalate issues to the mailing list only if it is of concern for the larger movement and above steps have failed. The same can be followed for dealing with isuses in local communities and other agencies like CIS, WMF. The India mailing list should not be serving as the first point of contact. //Somehow, I am getting more and more inputs and more questions from people from the community.// Please encourage such members to follow above steps themselves. Speaking unofficially on behalf of some (there is no way to verify if such people exist and what they told actually) doesn't go well with the Wiki spirit. // Community would like to get answers to these questions.// I am also a member of the community and don't understand who is the community on whose behalf you speak. If you would like to get an answer as an individual, please follow the steps mentioned above. //I will prefer that the individual members who went abroad give their individual briefing on the list publicly.// The chapter is a registered legal entity by itself and it can be asked to accept responsibility for all activities taken under it's name. So, I don't think individual members need to submit such reports. As a community member, I will welcome regular reports from the chapter to establish better trust with all it's stakeholders. If I have an issue, I will discuss during their next grant proposal. The current EC is doing it's best to bring governance changes and transparency initiatives. When it is fire fighting the best we can is stand together and give ample time for it to deliver. As a former president of Wikimedia India, I hope you can understand the limitations under which any EC will work. In the context of India Community Consultation happening in October, discussions like these won't help to show the India community in good light. Thanks, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Loves Earth India results
Hi Mykola, Personally, I have no problems in having these results published in Commons, unless Abihirami prefers it that way. Thanks, Ade S On Friday, 12 September 2014, Mykola Kozlenko mycol...@ukr.net wrote: Hi Adethya, Can I publish these results on Commons? Or do you prefer not to announce the winners publicly at the moment? Thanks Mykola 11 вересня 2014, 08:51:14, від Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','adethyas...@gmail.com');: Hi Mykola, Please find attached document containing list of images URL - that have been shortlisted from India. Let me know if any other information is required. Thanks, Ade S On 10 September 2014 16:01, Mykola Kozlenko mycol...@ukr.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mycol...@ukr.net'); wrote: Hi, If you want to announce these results somewhere, you can publish them on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Earth_2014/Finalists If you do not want to announce these results in the moment (for example, you want to announce them only during the award ceremony), please send the list of 10 URLs to me by mail. Best regards Mykola Kozlenko (User:NickK) WLE International / Wikimedia Ukraine --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: Abhirami G abhirami...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','abhirami...@gmail.com'); Дата: 10 вересня 2014, 07:56:33 Hi, We have nominated the top ten images from Wiki Loves Earth India. How can we send these results to you? I apologise for the extreme delay. Best regards, Abhirami. -- Sent from a phoebe, sorry, phone (autocorrect again!) -- Sent from my iPhone ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Future of Work in India: Bangalore it is
Hello, everyone. This is to inform everyone that the community consultation planned for Oct 4th-5th will be held in *Bangalore*. See here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014#Venue_choice I will be following up in the coming day or so with more information on confirmed attendees, taking community nominations into account. Thanks, Asaf -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?
Viswa, Prior to the departure of several EC members, resolution had been passed to accept the draft Coi policy that was done by me with Karthik's help. Please ensure that it is implemented. Also, you mentioned a board meeting in September. Does this indicate the AGM or just the four core EC members. I say four because Nikita had not renewed her membership as of the first of July 2014 thus ceasing to be a member of the chapter let alone an EC member. Please look into these matters. On 11-Sep-2014 2:16 am, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, The newly restructured EC has held a telecon tonight (September 10th). We have decided to meet in person at Bangalore on 20,21 22 September 2014 with a large number of tasks in hand. Due to several reasons, principally among them, a delay in the completion of Financial Audit Reports, we are forced to postpone the AGM and Elections by a few weeks, following the recommendation of our legal and financial consultants. The above board meeting, to be held in Bangalore, will corroborate and decide on the earliest possible date to conduct the AGM and General Elections considering all formal timeline constraints. We will also meet-up with the Election Committee, our legal and financial consultants and other concerned agencies. We are also about to present a few drafts at the Chapters wiki and invite amendments, modifications and improvements in our constitutional and policy documents. This will include a 'Conflict of Interest' policy, a basic framework on the formation of an Advisory committee, simplification of membership application processes, grant process, publication of necessary Membership data without compromising the privacy concerns etc. We will be releasing more detailed info along these lines within a few days. Till then, Please standby. Thank you Viswanathan Prabhakaran Treasurer Wikimedia India Chapter On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I am also surprised to see no reply. Arjuna, do you have any further information? Update on Election commitee process on WMIN Elections is here http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014 Any further updates? Regards -Sudhanwa ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
